Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 June 22#Category:Israeli nuclear development

:* Propose merging :Category:20th-century Asian-American women politicians to :Category:American women of Asian descent in politics and :Category:20th-century Asian-American politicians

:* Propose merging :Category:21st-century Asian-American women politicians to :Category:American women of Asian descent in politics and :Category:21st-century Asian-American politicians

:Nominator's rationale: Duel upmerge. There is no reason to diffuse this category by century. The undergendered parent category isn't populated enough 20th-century Asian-American politicians ^SMason_Garrison 23:24, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::Regarding the lack of population of the undergendered parent category 20th-century Asian-American politicians, that category is still relatively new and not yet populated. Give it some time. There are hundreds of eligible entries for categorization.—Myasuda (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I didn't nominate 20th-century Asian-American politicians for that reason. I think that diffusing by century for the ungendered parent is possibly viable. ^SMason_Garrison 01:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per WP:OCEGRS, which applies in this case to both gender and ethnicity. Besides quadruple intersections is something we normally do not do. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:44, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• Comment - I based these categories on the African-American series. No issue with merging if its not populated enough. Moondragon21 (talk) 14:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• :I strongly encourage you to review WP:OCEGRS before making more categories at multiple intersections like this. @Moondragon21 ^SMason_Garrison 01:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Sports competitions in Villars-sur-Ollon to :Category:Sport in the canton of Vaud

:Nominator's rationale: merge, this is about a small village, not even a municipality. There is no :Category:Villars-sur-Ollon either. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Israeli nuclear development to :Category:Israeli nuclear program

:Nominator's rationale: There’s no other category named "x country nuclear development" so match with other categories Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:36, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• The dominant pattern in :Category:Nuclear weapons programs by country suggests :Category:Nuclear weapons program of Israel. (The topic of the category is weapons rather than general :Category:Nuclear technology in Israel.) – Fayenatic London 21:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per Fayenatic london, not nominator. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
• :Ok that’s fine too Thepharoah17 (talk) 00:16, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Health fraud people to :Category:People associated with health fraud

:Nominator's rationale: I think this category should be renamed to something more intuitive like people associated with health fraud or Health-related fraudsters ^SMason_Garrison 01:49, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:: Support. Similar to existing categories :Category:People associated with technology and :Category:People associated with animal welfare and rights. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:14, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

• Delete, we already have :Category:People convicted for health fraud and I don't see why we would need something additionally. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:59, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• :I think that the reasoning is that not everyone is convicted. ^SMason_Garrison 23:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• ::If not kept in some flavor, it would need to be merged to Category:Health fraud and Category:Fraudsters. ^SMason_Garrison 23:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• ::* We usually do not put people in crime categories when they are not convicted. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
• ::*:That's not accurate. There's a distinction made in many of these categories between convicted and not. Look at Category:People convicted of cybercrime and Category:Cybercriminals as one example. ^SMason_Garrison 23:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

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• Most articles in :Category:Cybercriminals actually belonged in :Category:People convicted of cybercrime, I have moved them. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• :That's not my point. My point is that there are a lot of these kinds of categories :Category:Criminals by crime. Deletion would isolate this category from the larger tree. ^SMason_Garrison 01:46, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 09:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Mozambican Muslims}}

:Nominator's rationale: Doesn’t say anywhere in their articles that they’re Muslim, only two articles Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:27, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

• Purge the articles per nom, then delete the category as empty. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose I have recently added text and citation to the Amade Camal article that confirm the subject's religious profession. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:37, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Ok, then add Amade Camal to :Category:African Muslims. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• Populate from Islam_in_Mozambique#Prominent_Mozambican_Muslims, at least some of which are supported by citations. – Fayenatic London 15:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
• Keep and populate---User:Namiba 16:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Sahrawi Muslims}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete whole category tree as none of the articles in it are actually Muslim except for one in the :Category:Sahrawi Islamists so I propose deleting

• :Category:Sahrawi Muslims
• :Category:Sahrawi Sunni Muslims
• :Category:Sahrawi Islamists Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• Delete, these people probably are Muslim but "probably" is not good enough and it is certainly not a defining characteristic in these cases. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose the article Adnan Abu Walid al-Sahrawi has multiple citations and text supporting its inclusion in :Category:Sahrawi Islamists. That category is the daughter category of the other two nominated, and as such none of them should be deleted. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:19, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
• :@Inter&anthro Please populate the categories you make with more than one person. Merge to :Category:African Islamists ^SMason_Garrison 23:30, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Fair enough, then add Adnan Abu Walid al-Sahrawi to :Category:African Islamists. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:** Also add him to :Category:Arab Islamists. I have added a note about him in the page Islam in Western Sahara. :Category:Islam in Western Sahara can be upmerged to parents WP:C2F after this nomination. – Fayenatic London 10:37, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Former Sunni Muslims}}

:Nominator's rationale: Very few of the articles in this category’s subcategories contain people that are (or were) Sunni Muslim. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:43, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, this is not generally the case, especially not in the converts subcategories. An example is Abraham of Bulgaria. Besides just deleting the top category would not solve the problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• :No, what I’m proposing is to delete just the former Sunni Muslims categories because the :Category:Former Muslims already covers it. In other words the people in the :category:Former Sunni Muslims belong in the :category:Former Muslims but not :category:Former Sunni Muslims. I’m sorry I guess I didn’t word correctly what I’m proposing. Basically, what I’m proposing is to merge the :category:Former Sunni Muslims into :category:Former Muslims since most of the articles in the :category:Former Sunni Muslims are (or were) just Muslims but not Sunni Muslims. Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:18, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• :* Ah ok, then I misunderstood the intention. Still, this would require to nominate all subcategories rather than just the top category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• :*:Oppose. I created this category to help clean up Sunni Muslims along with the parent category :Category:Former Muslims. :Category:Former Shia Muslims serves an identical purpose. So both should be nominated. If not kept, it should be merged to both Category:Former Muslims and Category:Sunni Muslims. ^SMason_Garrison 23:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Propose deleting {{lc|Djiboutian Muslims}}

:Nominator's rationale: None of the people in this category or its subcategory are Muslim so I propose deleting this category and the subcategory :category: Djiboutian Sunni Muslims. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:59, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Also add

• :Category:Nigerien Muslims
• :Category:Nigerien Islamists Thepharoah17 (talk) 06:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• Delete, these people probably are Muslim but "probably" is not good enough and it is certainly not a defining characteristic in these cases. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• The only article in :Category:Nigerien Islamists is without any doubt about an Islamist. But as there aren't any other articles in this category yet, the category is not helpful for navigation. So this is a different rationale. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose the article Doundou Chefou has multiple citations and text supporting its inclusion in :Category:Nigerien Islamists. That category is the daughter category of :Category:Nigerien Muslims that was also nominated, and as such none of them should be deleted. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

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• I realize I haven't been clear about what to do with :Category:Nigerien Islamists. It should be merged to :Category:Nigerien people and :Category:African Islamists, rather than deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• I have also listed the member page in Islam in Niger. – Fayenatic London 10:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Children of Charles III}}

:Nominator's rationale: Small category incapable of expansion. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:55, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

• Support in principle, but merge to :Category:Charles III and :Category:Children of English monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:25, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• :Comment: It would probably be more correct to have a :Category:Children of British monarchs and move some of the subcategories of :Category:Children of English monarchs, from :Category:Children of George I of Great Britain onwards, there. Ham II (talk) 06:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
• merge to :Category:Charles III and :Category:Children of English monarchs. Thepharoah17 (talk) 18:53, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per precedent at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 1#Category:Children of George VI. DrKay (talk) 22:29, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

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• Further comments: I've now created :Category:Children of British monarchs. As for merging :Category:Children of Charles III to :Category:Charles III, I'm not sure whether William, Prince of Wales and Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex – or their eponymous categories – belong there. To use examples from the previously deleted :Category:Children of George VI, Elizabeth II and Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon aren't in :Category:George VI (and neither are their eponymous categories). {{pb}} The nominator's rationale, "small category incapable of expansion", is WP:SMALLCAT, described on its page as a "former Wikipedia guideline, no longer backed by community consensus" since 2023. This was not the case when Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 March 1#Category:Children of George VI was passed. Ham II (talk) 16:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Ok, then of course merge to :Category:Children of British monarchs instead of :Category:Children of English monarchs. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Deaths by LTTE suicide bomber to :Category:Politicians assassinated by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam

:Nominator's rationale: Mostly overlaps with :Category:Politicians assassinated by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, which should be renamed to "Assassinations attributed to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam" per NPOV. Petextrodon (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
• Agree with nom, in principle, but rename this category to :Category:Assassinations attributed to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, while :Category:Politicians assassinated by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam can become a subcategory of it. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Genetics in Africa to :Category:Genetics by continent

:Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer ^SMason_Garrison 00:37, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::Support: Agreed that the layer is unnecessary, but not sure which should be the preferred operation. Might make more sense to keep Genetics in Africa and upmerge the subcat since it matches the naming of Genetics by continent (in this case, Genetic history of Europe would also need renamed). Or it could go the other way around, renaming Genetics by continent to Genetic history by continent. Either way, I think the names need to be matched. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 02:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

• Support somehow, both nom's proposal and QH's alternative may work. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Pansexual people by occupation to :Category:LGBTQ people by occupation

:Nominator's rationale: This category and all its subcategories would seem to violate WP:OCEGRS as I am not sure pansexuality is defining as it relates to occupations. I would suggest an upmerge if necessary to the parent category or its subcategories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

• There is also :Category:Bisexual people by occupation, :Category:Lesbians by occupation etc., so this requires a broader discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
• :I just don't want a WP:TRAINWRECK if there's something I'm missing about one of them, so preferably it can be judged separately.. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:02, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
• ::Hmm. I can see how someone would write about lesbian writers differently from (male) gay writers, so I can see why those categories exist, but I'm not sure that pansexuality is more specifically defining than LGBTQ status in these occupations. So I think considering this category and its subcategories without all of the subcategories of sexuality by occupation makes sense. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 21:29, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Propose renaming :Category:German expressionist dramatists and playwrights to :Category:German Expressionist dramatists and playwrights

:* Propose renaming :Category:German Expressionist writers to :Category:German expressionist writers (added 22nd June)

:Nominator's rationale: Should this be uppercase, like German Expressionist writers ? ^SMason_Garrison 15:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

• Shouldn't it be German expressionist writers instead? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:52, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
• :I think that the movement is "German Expressionism", but I'm not opposed to renaming the parent instead ^SMason_Garrison 23:37, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
• :* The article Expressionism does not mention German Expressionism as a specific sub-movement. I meanwhile found German expressionist cinema without capital E too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
• :*:I'm fine with renaming the parent. Let me tag it. ^SMason_Garrison 22:36, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Mayors of Tel Keppe to :Category:Mayors of places in Iraq

:Nominator's rationale: Not enough entries to justify a separate category, entry would fit better in the suggested category Surayeproject3 (talk) 16:58, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Dual merge also to :Category:People from Tel Keppe. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 09:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose recosidering {{lc|Jewish Ukrainian politicians}}

:Nominator's rationale: The name of the category is ambiguous and hence the content of the category is confusing: it lumps Jews of Ukrainian descent who are/were politicians in Ukraine, Israel, Russia and probably somewhere else. I suggest

• Option 1: split the category into :Category: Jewish Ukrainian politicians by country
• Option 2: rename to :Category: Ukrainian politicians of Jewish desent and cleanup accordingly.

For example, currently former Israeli politician Beba Idelson is in the branch :Category:Jewish Ukrainian politicians <-- :Category:Ukrainian politicians <-- :Category:Ukrainian political people <-- :Category:Politics of Ukraine, which does not feel right.

--Altenmann >talk 16:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• P.S. in favor of option 2 is the existence of :category:Ukrainian politicians of Korean descent and similar categories elsewhere, e.g., :Category:American politicians of Polish descent. --Altenmann >talk 16:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Option 2, we do normally not categorize politicians by a nationality unrelated to their office. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Silent radio stations}}

:Nominator's rationale: This is not an appropriate category. Being silent is a temporary characteristic of a radio station, so one would expect stations to move in and out of this category all the time. (Reasons for silence may include financial reasons, facility damage, etc.) Some stations in this category may never return to the air and eventually need switching to defunct station categories. Categorization is inappropriate for this condition. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 16:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Comment (as category creator): Being "silent", where a station is allowed to be off the air but still retain it's broadcast license, is definitely intended to be temporary and 20 years ago I would have agreed with the nominator. But the broadcast industry is in such shambles that being silent often persists. WHNQ (AM) went off the air in 2023 for financial reasons while WVOD did so in 2024. Even with stations that went silent this year, I wonder if it would really be WP:CRYSTALBALL to add them to :Category:Defunct radio stations right now: WLZR was an uneconomical daytime-only AM station and WLBG had been for sale for 8 years but could not find a buyer. Also note that these articles typically have both their infobox and and text updated to reflect they are silent, so a category doesn't seem like too much overhead. {{pb}}A radio station that doesn't broadcast on the radio seems defining to me, but this could also work as a maintenance category. I look forward to other perspectives! - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Films shot in Honfleur to :Category:Films shot in Calvados (department)

:Nominator's rationale: "Films shot in X" category newly created for just one film. As always, every place that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one film with a Wikipedia article has done some shooting there -- this would be fine if there were numerous films filed in it, but is not necessary for just one film, and the departmental level is more than sufficient in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 14:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Occitan-language sportspeople}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category for a non-defining intersection of unrelated characteristics. A few "Occitan-language X" categories exist for occupations where verbal language is a core feature of the occupation -- singers who sing in Occitan, writers who write in Occitan, etc. -- but language is not related to performance in sports. Sports are about physical, rather than verbal, activity, so there's no defining relationship between one's native language and being in sports, and I haven't found any other "Sportspeople by language" categories for any other language that I've checked. Bearcat (talk) 14:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::Sports are also about verbal activity, and there's surely a relation between language and sports, as there is one between language and culture, therefore it can happen. Moreover, telegu-language sportspeople was wrongly listed here :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Telugu-speaking_people_by_occupation this is why the redlink to consider them together, following this precedent.

::There is also categories with a less relevant relation between fluency in a language and some occupations, i believe.

::Still, some reorganization should be made.

::Respectfully. Mirteye (talk) 21:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Sports are about verbal activity how, and the relationship between language and sports is what? Bearcat (talk) 15:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 10:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Linux distributions offering KDE desktop environment}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per numerous prior discussions, it's not useful to categorize Linux distributions for the matter of which desktop environment they "offer" -- since any Linux distro can be configured to use any desktop environment of the user's choice regardless of whether it came as the preinstalled default or not, it just isn't a useful distinction between distros. You can easily install a distro that isn't here and configure it to use KDE anyway, and you can easily install a distro that is here and configure it to use Gnome or XFCE or Cinnamon anyway, so it doesn't constitute a significant difference between Linux distros. Bearcat (talk) 14:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:: Propose keep: I agree from a advanced user view, but most of users do no do that, they do search by Desktop environment. --Dadu (talk) 06:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:: Propose keep per Dadu. -- Just N. (talk) 10:02, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Mikrani People of Nepal to :Category:Mikrani people

:Nominator's rationale: I think that this category should be broaden/ renamed ^SMason_Garrison 00:00, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

• Comment, it is not awfully clear whether the people in this category are Mikrani people or whether their surname happens to Mikrani. They all seem relatives of each other. (Support rename if nobody knows what is going on here.) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

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• Purge of articles that aren't verifiably Mikrani people, then rename/delete as appropriate. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 12:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Lovers to :Category:Romantic and sexual partners

:Nominator's rationale: An ambiguous term. User:Namiba 18:12, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

• Comment My understanding is that "lovers" refers to unmarried partners.★Trekker (talk) 23:23, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per *Trekker. These are mostly lovers of royalty, in contrast to spouses. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Perhaps :Category:Extramarital relationships would be a better target then? I don't see a need for a separate category, especially one with an ambiguous name.--User:Namiba 14:37, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::* :Category:Extramarital relationships is a topic category while :Category:Lovers is a set category. If anything, I'd rather merge :Category:Adultery to :Category:Extramarital relationships. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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• At least rename somehow. Current title is too vague. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:50, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Comment IMHO Paul_012 is right. My proposal: Merge to :Category:Mistresses. What about an appropriate category for male examples? Any ideas to fill this gap? -- Just N. (talk) 10:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* :Category:Mistresses is a subcategory, there is also :Category:Male lovers. So merging to :Category:Mistresses is not a good option. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Anhui Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of Fujian Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Fujian Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people

:* Propose merging :Category:Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Guangdong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:CCP Henan Provincial Committee people (1 C) to :Category:Henan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of CCP Henan Provincial Committee (1 C) to :Category:Henan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Hunan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Hunan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Jiangsu Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Jilin Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Jilin Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Jilin Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Jilin Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Liaoning Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Liaoning Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Liaoning Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Liaoning Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of CCP Qinghai Provincial Committee (1 C) to :Category:Qinghai Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Shandong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Shandong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Shandong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Shandong Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:CCP Shanxi Provincial Committee people (1 C) to :Category:Shanxi Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of Shanxi Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Shanxi Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category: Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category: Tibet Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people

:* Propose merging :Category:Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regional Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party people (1 C) to :Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party (1 C) to :Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:* Propose merging :Category:Yunnan Federation of Trade Unions (1 C) to :Category:Yunnan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party

:Nominator's rationale: merge, two redundant category layers (people and members) with one subcategory in every of these categories. With very few exceptions, only standing members are categorized as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Keep, {{ping|Marcocapelle}}, I will probably be able to add these subcategories and articles to many numbers very soon. But please do not merge them recklessly. TinaLees-Jones (talk) 05:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::* {{ping|TinaLees-Jones}} I do not expect this discussion will be closed within a few weeks (it may also be relisted). So please go ahead populating any of these categories and I will withdraw the nominations accordingly when you are done. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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• Withdraw nomination after the categories have been populated. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Flash games ported to consoles}}

:Nominator's rationale: This would seem to violate WP:NONDEF. If it's on a console, it can also be listed in the relevant console category. But the fact that it was ported to consoles is rarely something massively important. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Keep I find this category quite useful. And not at all NONDEF. The nomination is IMHO aimed at wiping out valuable tracks into video game history for normal (non-scientists) people. -- Just N. (talk) 11:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• :Assuming WP:BADFAITH is considered a huge breach of Wikipedia etiquette, please reconsider your statements before cynically making them without evidence. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:French military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for France

:* Propose renaming :Category:French naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for France

:* Propose renaming :Category:German air attachés to :Category:Air attachés for Germany

:* Propose renaming :Category:German military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Germany

:* Propose renaming :Category:Greek military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Greece

:* Propose renaming :Category:Greek naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for Greece

:* Propose renaming :Category:Indian air attachés to :Category:Air attachés for India

:* Propose renaming :Category:Indian military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for India

:* Propose renaming :Category:Indian naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for India

:* Propose renaming :Category:Italian air attachés to :Category:Air attachés for Italy

:* Propose renaming :Category:Italian military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Italy

:* Propose renaming :Category:Japanese military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Japan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Japanese naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for Japan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Norwegian military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Norway

:* Propose renaming :Category:Pakistani air attachés to :Category:Air attachés for Pakistan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Pakistani military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Pakistan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Pakistani naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for Pakistan

:* Propose renaming :Category:Polish military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Poland

:* Propose renaming :Category:Romanian military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Romania

:* Propose renaming :Category:Russian military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Russia

:* Propose renaming :Category:Russian naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for Russia

:* Propose renaming :Category:South Korean military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for South Korea

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sri Lankan military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Sri Lanka

:* Propose renaming :Category:Swedish air attachés to :Category:Air attachés for Sweden

:* Propose renaming :Category:Swedish military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for Sweden

:* Propose renaming :Category:Swedish naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for Sweden

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military attachés of the Russian Empire to :Category:Military attachés for the Russian Empire

:* Propose renaming :Category:Soviet military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for the Soviet Union

:* Propose renaming :Category:Soviet naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for the Soviet Union

:* Propose renaming :Category:British air attachés to :Category:Air attachés for the United Kingdom

:* Propose renaming :Category:British military attachés to :Category:Military attachés for the United Kingdom

:* Propose renaming :Category:British naval attachés to :Category:Naval attachés for the United Kingdom

:Nominator's rationale: These are under the Category:Diplomats for Foo categories and are now the only role that switches back to using nationality demonyms (e.g. in :Category:Diplomats for Japan, there are :Category:Ambassadors of Japan, :Category:Consuls for Japan, and :Category:Ministers for foreign affairs of Japan). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 11:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Parks established in 1820 to :Category:Protected areas established in 1820 and :Category:Parks established in the 1820s

:* Propose merging :Category:Parks established in 2010 to :Category:Protected areas established in 2010 and :Category:Parks established in the 2010s

:Nominator's rationale: One entry in 1820, three entries in 2010; no other Category:Parks established in YYYY. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Armenian-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Armenian is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:French-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where French is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Kashmiri-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Kashmiri is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Korean-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Korean is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Pashto-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Pashto is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Punjabi-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Punjabi is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Spanish-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Spanish is an official language

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Swahili-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where Swahili is an official language

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:English-speaking countries and territories}} to :Category:Countries and territories where English is an official language

:Nominator's rationale: Prior consensus is that countries should be classified by official language only; therefore, about 3/4 of the categories were renamed as such after Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_March_20#Category:Countries_and_territories_by_language. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|American Ku Klux Klan members convicted of crimes}}

:Nominator's rationale: I don't think this is a defining intersection between group and crime. There are plenty, plenty, plenty of KKK inspired murders, but those are in a subcategory. What is here is a lot of crimes that are completely unrelated to the KKK status (from the first few I picked, illegal gambling, disturbing the peace, tax issues, child molestation) so for almost all articles in the category it fails WP:CATDEF. This category is not defining - the murders one may be so I'm not nominating that. I also don't know why we're specifying American. This should be upmerged to the parent categories (I clicked delete on accident). PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:American Ku Klux Klan members per nom. That category may be nominated for upmerging too, together with its Canadian sibling, since Ku Klux Klan is almost exclusively American anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:01, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• :Yeah I was looking through these earlier and I thought it was weird. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Shooting survivors to :Category:Non-combat shooting survivors and do the same for all its subcategories

:Nominator's rationale: This is the spirit of the category: its parent Category:Shooting victims is in :Category:Crime victims. People in shot military combat are hardly crime victims. Recently I run into the case where someone included a militant into the category of shooting survivors, and this did not seem proper to me. --Altenmann >talk 05:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose A "shooting" in common parlance if a gun being used in a crime, not combat, where it would just be called a combat or war survivor. I don't see the necessity to make it more specific. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• If a soldier was shot in the chest, but survived, I think this means he "survived the shooting". During the war (surpize!) people are shooting each other and some of them survive. As I said, I made the nomination not because of pedantry, see above. --Altenmann >talk
• Comment I would be inclined to delete the whole tree but, procedurally, the subcats are not nominated. - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Who prevents you from nominating the whole enchillada. Deletion is a good idea. Death by shooting cat makes sense , but surviuval of shooting is hardly a defining characteristic. Do we have :category:Heart attack survivors? --Altenmann >talk 22:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• RD is right, it is pointless to nominate the top category only, without nominating the subcategories. After all, most articles are in the subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• Well, that's what I did, see my nom. But RD makes a different suggestion: to delete them all, and I agreed. As soon as this one closes I will nominate multideletion, per RD suggestion. --Altenmann >talk 06:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• :My comment is more about the mechanics actual nominating process; the subcategories don't have a tag on them pointing to this discussion. I understand that's your intent with the wording of the nomination, but people following those subcats could correctly say they got no notice of the discussion. (From there, it's common for nominations to be renamed to be turned into deletions, and vice versa, without retagging the categories.) RevelationDirect (talk) 10:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• Right, the subcategories need to be tagged. Without tagging the bot won't do its job. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Mario Kart characters to :Category:Mario (franchise) characters

:Nominator's rationale: As I was adding other articles to the category, I realised that most Mario characters with Wikipedia articles are in the Mario Kart series, meaning that the articles in this category would be identical to :Category:Mario (franchise) characters, likely making the Mario Kart characters category unnecessary. SleepyRedHair (talk) 17:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::my idea is made a Category call "Kart racing games characters" for characters appear in a Kart racing games, all Kart racing games in general not only in mario kart franchise 25px Aomaf (talk) 25px 17:56, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::: Might be worth taking a look at WP:NLIST to see if this could work as a list article.- RevelationDirect (talk) 23:11, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

• Merge Per WP:PERFCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
• Merge Per nom. It overlaps too much with the general Mario series. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:21, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
• Merge Per nom. Thepharoah17 (talk) 07:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)