Wikipedia:Education noticeboard#Oddities with PrimeBOT and WikiEd Course

Neutral point of view is one of the bedrock principles of Wikipedia. Are educators in Wiki-Ed projects allowed to break that principle? In this Wiki-Ed project, the instructor describes 11 "Wicked" problems that will be addressed in the Wiki-class. The list includes "1) Democratic government 2) Settler-colonialism and Truth, Reconciliation and Decolonization". Characterising democratic government, and truth and reconciliation as "wicked" hardly seems NPOV to me. Can the instructor ignore NPOV on a wikipedia page? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:39, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:Which course is this? The instructor probably means Wicked problem: {{tq|In planning and policy, a wicked problem is a problem that is difficult or impossible to solve because of incomplete, contradictory, and changing requirements that are often difficult to recognize.}} Not an NPOV issue at all. StarryGrandma (talk) 03:28, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Visual Culture of the Nation of Islam § Requested move 8 May 2025. Thanks, Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:I have identified the issue with the instructor, but it would also be nice if additional instruction could be given on MOS:AT as well as {{tl|essay-like}} without having to hound all the pages listed in the RM. This course in particular may benefit from having articles reviewed at AfC in the future. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 16:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

::Quickly to clarify that I'm referring to Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/Oberlin College/Modern and Contemporary Islamic Art (Spring 2025), as none of the talk pages identify it as such. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello. Shelterbelt destruction at Yangguan Forest Farm is a new translation from Chinese by an unregistered university student. The article needs work for organizational structure, better/more citations, and more. Knowledge of Chinese would be a help, but plenty of room for improvement without it. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:cc @Hanyangprofessor2 SCP-2000 05:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Mathglot @SCP-2000 Yes, that's one of mine. For my feedback on that article see my talkpage and/or archives (User_talk:Hanyangprofessor2#Deadline_5_(Week_9)-_ZHANG_XIAOTONG). Btw, what do you mean by "an unregistered university student"? That student is registered in https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Hanyang_University/Sociology_of_Everyday_Life_(2025)/students/overview _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 04:08, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Template:End of course week leaves an unclosed {{tag|div|o}}, which is causing a plethora of missing end tag lint errors. Please discuss at Template talk:End of course week#Template leaves trailing <div>, no need to discuss it here also. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Do we have any guides for students on translating articles? I am familiar with general guides (Wikipedia:Translation or User:TheLonelyPather/Essays/Guide for a translator, as well as the excellent, IMHO, meta:OKA/Instructions for editors), but I don't recall one aimed at students.

I am also curious what do you think about the requirement to check translated content (stable on another wiki) for Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Recently several of the articles translated by my students (from zh to en) have been found to contain close paraphrasing. To be clear, the students did not add it - they simply translated content from zh wiki, where it was stable for many years, but where also apparently nobody noticed this problem. Do you think the students and/or the instructors should be required to check for close paraphrasing in the articles they select for translation? Or should it be mentioned as a best practice? It is not, as far as I can tell, even suggested as a best practice in the guides linked above. Should it be added to them (or to a guide for students on translations, if we have one and it isn't there already)? _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 08:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)