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=[[1883 FA Cup final]]=

{{pagelinks|1883 FA Cup final}}

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:Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi everyone, I decided to give you all a break from articles on Gillingham F.C. seasons and nominate something else. I mean....it's still football, but at least it's different football {{smiley}} This article concerns a match won by a team which I would imagine 80% of football fans in 2025 have never heard of, but it's undoubtedly one of the most significant matches in football history, as it accelerated the end of the "gentleman amateur" era and heralded the start of the transformation of football into a business rather than primarily a nice diversion for posh young men. If you watched the Netflix series "The English Game" in 2020 you may know about this game, although frankly very little happened in real life like it happened in that show.... Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon {{smiley}} -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

==Image review==

  • Don't use fixed px size
  • File:1871_FA_Cup.jpg needs a US tag.
  • File:John_Frederick_Peel_Rawlinson_Vanity_Fair_8_January_1908.JPG has a dead source link and needs a US tag. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:25, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Nikkimaria}} - I couldn't figure out which (if any) US tag applied so I uploaded the trophy image locally and removed the Rawlinson image completely as upon further consideration an image of him decades later as a judge (or whatever) probably wasn't relevant..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Erm... you've uploaded it locally with a US tag? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Nikkimaria}} I couldn't see an equivalent of that tag on Commons....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
  • There isn't a direct equivalent because on Commons you're expected to have a separate tag for US status. But if that tag is valid, wouldn't PD-US-expired on Commons be correct? It's just less specific. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Nikkimaria}} - I added that tag to the Commons version and once again made that the version used here -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

==MSincccc==

; Background

  • {{green|Going into the 1882–83 FA Cup, Old Etonians, the team consisting of former pupils of the prestigious Eton College, were the reigning Cup-holders.}} Since "Cup holders" refers to the noun form in this sentence, it should not be hyphenated.

; Route to the final

  • {{green|In the first round, they beat Accrington 6–3, and in the second they defeated Lower Darwen 8–1.}} The article Lower Darwen F.C. could be linked in this sentence.
  • {{green|In the third round, they took on Darwen Ramblers and scored only one goal in the first half, but dominated their opponents after the interval, scoring seven more goals without reply to win 8–0.}} The article Darwen Ramblers F.C. could be linked in this sentence. MSincccc (talk) 10:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|MSincccc}} - done all that. I'm surprised to learn that those long-defunct minor clubs have articles (like an idiot I hadn't checked {{smiley}}) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:56, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

; Match

  • {{green|The reported attendance was 8,000, the highest for any final to date.}} Could "at the time" be used in place of "to date" since the latter implies up to now, possibly sounding like it's still the highest today (which it isn’t)?
  • {{green|...it was the ninth FA Cup final in which he played, a record which still stands as of 2025.}} Is the phrase "of 2025" required here?
  • The "f" in "Fellow" should be in lowercase.
  • "Cup holder" is a non-hyphenated term. MSincccc (talk) 18:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
  • {{ping|MSincccc}} - done the first and last but I think the "as of 2025" needs to remain because simply saying "a record that still stands" would become inaccurate in the (admittedly unlikely) event that someone plays in a 10th final -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:34, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

; Match (continued)

  • Could "included the likes of John Chevallier" be replaced with "included John Chevallier"?
  • Can "weavers" be delinked here?
  • Could "the teenaged full-back Jimmy Ward" be replaced with "teenage full-back Jimmy Ward"?
  • "Skilful" is the correct spelling in British English.

; Post-match

  • {{green|As he received his medal, a jubilant Hunter reportedly shouted "fifteen years at football, and got the English Cup at the finish!"}} Is "jubilant" required in this sentence or can it be omitted for neutrality?
  • "Focused" is the more common spelling in British English.

That's all from me. MSincccc (talk) 17:37, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|MSincccc}} -all done! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::Support. MSincccc (talk) 08:35, 25 April 2025 (UTC)