Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rainbow pitta/archive1

:Nominator(s): Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Yet another WP:BIRD, this one a jewel of an Australian species. I never even really planned to write it but I photocopied the wrong pages at the library. Oh well, turned out to be a great mistake as its lovely. It's been picked over at GAN so should be good to go. Enjoy! Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:26, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

• There are three four images (two three bird images and a range map). All the three are properly licensed and also have a description template. No issues, good to go! {{p|:)}} Adityavagarwal (talk) 09:53, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

• I'll add comments as I read along. FunkMonk (talk) 01:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
• "The species was once treated as the same species as the noisy pitta of eastern Australia" As a subspecies, or as identical?

:*Subspecies, added. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• Could a cladogram be added?

:*I'll see what I can do. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• The photos dont show the legs and the tail well, perhaps this photo of a study skin could be added:[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Naturalis_Biodiversity_Center_-_RMNH.AVES.121574_-_Pitta_versicolor_iris_Gould,_1842_-_Pittidae_-_bird_skin_specimen.jpeg] Or even this low res photo of a live specimen:[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pitta_iris.jpg]

:*Put the skin up, the low res one was taken out at GAN because the original website it was posted on went dead (we really need a way of fixing that problem). Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

:::Looks good, might want to left-align the skin, the two images now clutter a bit under the taxobox. As for the broken link, it is fairly easy to find archived versions[https://web.archive.org/web/20110724115237/http://ausbirds.tripod.com/frames.html] with the Wayback Machine. FunkMonk (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• What does Pitta mean?

:* I personally think it's sufficient that it's covered at Pitta, but I can put it in if you insist. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

:::Not necessary as such, but I was asked about the meaning of the genus name during the Guadeloupe amazon FAC, so others might wonder. FunkMonk (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• "per hectare." This could get a conversion.
• "Females weigh slightly more, 67 g (2.4 oz), on average than males, 62 g (2.2 oz)." This is confusingly structured. Why not just say something like "Females weigh X, which is slightly more than males, which weigh Y.

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• I wonder if it could be mentioned which subspecies are depicted.

:*Done. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

• Shouldn't the subspecies be listed in the taxobox?

:*It's not compulsory and I'm against it personally. Sabine's Sunbird talk 02:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

:::I'm not going to push this, but I wonder why? FunkMonk (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

:*Too much gets crammed into taxoboxes (synonyms, range maps, child taxa) and it really pushes down images and messes up the page layout when you look at the page on a large screen. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "The tail is olive-green with a black base and the uppertail coverts and sometimes has a" Something seems to be mssing.

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "pink legs, brown eye" Why is legs plural but eye singular?

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "and is the only species of pitta endemic to Australia, from sea-level to 380 m (1,250 ft)." The part about elevation seems a bit tacked on (in a condusing way), and unrelated to the rest of the sentence. Could it be placed elsewhere in the section, or made into its own section?

:*restructured Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• " It can be difficult to detect during the post-breeding season, as it is silent during the annual moult, and generally shy throughout the year." What does this have to do with distribution?

:*I fixed this by explaining how that shyness means its movements are hard to understand. Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

• "and associated soft call" What is a "soft call"?

:*Reworded. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "The rainbow pitta is unusual in the avifauna in its range" Among the avifauna?

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "insects taken include cockroaches, beetles, ants, caterpillars and grasshoppers, and arthropods include centipedes, spiders and millipedes" You should say "and other arthropods include", since insects are arthropods as well.

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "The diet consists mainly of insects, arthropods" Likewise.

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "as the breeding season seems to be correlated with the availability of earthworms, a major part of the diet of both nestlings and adults during the breeding season." Perhaps say "during this time" inetad of the second "breeding season".

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "and are placed from nests used earlier that season." What does "placed from" mean?

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "two out of four closely studied nests relaid." Were relaid?

:*Fixed. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• "four glossy cream eggs" This is only mentioned in the intro.

:Removed from lead, wasn't really supported by my sources. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

• I only see two unaddressed issues (conversion of hectare and left alignment of stuffed specimen), then I should be ready to support. FunkMonk (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

:*I need to work out how that hectrae conversion works. Sabine's Sunbird talk 09:24, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

::This seems to do it:[https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-area-from-ha-to-m2.html] FunkMonk (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

:::Converted. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:29, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

• Support - with that last minor fix, everything looks good. FunkMonk (talk) 19:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

• I randomly googled three sentences and nothing showed up except mirrors. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Rainbow+pitta&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 Earwig's tool] shows no copyright violations.

: Otherwise everything looks good. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

====Comments from Dank====

Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. Well done. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?page=Rainbow_pitta&server=enwiki&name=Dank These] are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 03:34, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

:*Thanks for the edits. Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

====Comments Support from Casliber====

Taking a look now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:43, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

• I'd link monsoon in the lead.

:* Done Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

• I'd link sedentary.

:* Done Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Can't see anything else prose or comprehensiveness-wise, so supporting now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:52, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

• Support from Jim. I made one minor MoS edit, otherwise nothing significant to fix Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:28, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

{{FACClosed|promoted}} Ian Rose (talk) 11:36, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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