Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/63rd Academy Awards/archive1
=[[63rd Academy Awards]]=
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:Nominator(s): Birdienest81 (talk) 08:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
I am nominating the 1991 Oscars for featured list because I believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I also followed how the 1929, 1987, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2014 Oscars were written. --Birdienest81 (talk) 08:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
{{hidden/FC|headerstyle=background:lightgrey;|contentstyle=border:1px lightgrey solid; padding:10px;|header=Resolved comments from FrankBoy (Buzz) 22:36, 27 February 2015 (UTC)|content=;Comments from FrB.TG:
- "Commonly referred to as the Oscars"
- " Kevin Costner was the fifth person to win the Best Director Academy Award on his directorial debut.[9] He also became the fifth person to earn Best Lead Actor and Best Director nominations for the same film.[10]" These two sentences can be merged with something like "Kevin Constner became fifth person to earn the Best Director for his directional debut, and to earn nominations for Best Actor and Best Director for the same film."
- Again, winners are not listed in "boldface" as claimed in the list. If I am not wrong, there is ongoing edit war regarding the usage of {{tl|double dagger}}?
- In the caption of the image present at Ceremony Information, you can simply say "Billy Crystal hosted the ceremony".
- I think Bibliography looks better below references, ain't it? Anyways, this one isn't a requirement. --FrankBoy (Buzz) 11:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
:*Done: I read your comments and have swiftly responded. Don't worry about the edit war regarding bold markup. That's moreso in more recent ceremony. I forget to change this ceremony's markup (which happens occasionally).
::--Birdienest81 (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2015 (UTC)}}
Support — FrankBoy (Buzz) 22:36, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
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I meant to get to this sooner, but here is my review now:
- None of the links in "See also" except for List of submissions to the 63rd Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film really pertain to this ceremony, so I'd remove all the others
- FN5: Should have Arthur Ochs Sulzberger as publisher
- FN30 and Staci Lynne Wilson's Animal Movies Guide contain HARVref errors; install this script if you haven't already in order to see them
Very good work overall. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Done: I fixed everything you mentioned. Ref 30 was missing the year, and thus it was causing the error. Thank you for your help;
::--Birdienest81 (talk) 05:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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Support, now worthy of FL Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
- Question what are Academy Honorary Awards, Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award, and Academy Special Achievement Award for? Nergaal (talk) 17:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Academy Honorary Awards are given for to any person or company for a lifetime achievement or significant contribution to the film industry as a whole. The Thalberg Award is given toward “creative producers whose bodies of work reflect a consistently high quality of motion picture production.” A Special Achievement Award is rewarded to a group or individual for a technical achievement toward a single film, but has no category for it or not enough nominees for a category.
::--Birdienest81 (talk) 16:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
:::So where can a reader of this article find this information out? It is not explained nor linked in the article. Nergaal (talk) 22:17, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
::::*They could always scroll down to the template that contains links to the non-competitive awards.
:::::--Birdienest81 (talk) 00:30, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
::::::I hope you agree that was a bad joke on your behalf. For example artist's awards list give a brief explanation of the awards, so please do that here too. Nergaal (talk) 19:36, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::*I was not joking. This is about primarily the ceremony itself not about each individual award. The artists awards you pertain to such as Grammy Award pertain to a specific award such as Best Salsa Album, Latin Jazz Album, etc. (only one award). This list deals collectively the awards as a whole. If I were to give explanations about the honorary awards, tomorrow, somebody might ask me to add description to the two sound awards because the average person does not know the difference between sound mixing and sound editing. As such, I can't base the list on everyone's personal preference. So, I'm leaving it to the respective Oscar award categories as the source of explanations.
::::::::--Birdienest81 (talk) 03:25, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::You are telling me that during the ceremony they say "And the Thalberg Award goes to X" instead of "And the Thalberg Award for creative producers whose bodies of work reflect a consistently high quality of motion picture production goes to X?" Nergaal (talk) 03:18, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::*No, they don't present honorary awards like they do with the competitive awards. Usually, the presenter gives a one minute speech describing the recipient, then a montage highlighting their work is show, and finally the recipient then comes out. It would be too long to describe it. Here's is how the Thalberg Awards was presented in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WUgaYrkMU8&index=12&list=PLJ8RjvesnvDMBMc74my80ofTHTH3B7WzM this video] from the Academy's official YouTube account (no career montage is shown due to online copyright issues for movie clips).
::::::::::--Birdienest81 (talk) 07:14, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{reply to|Birdienest81}} I agree with Nergaal. The issue lies with the fact that the title of the respective sections can't be linked like the other awards e.g. Best Actor to other pages where they elaborate on the awards. It means the reader would have to search for that info themselves when a simple one or two sentences about what the award is, and why it was given to this person in the section of this article would help especially as they are awards given separately from the rest by the Governors only on certain occasions. Cowlibob (talk) 22:38, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support: The only thing I would fix is capitalizing the word media in Philadelphia Media Network for Ref 8 and linking Philadelphia Inquirer and Philadelphia Media Network since it is the first mention of both company and newspaper. --Jagarin 06:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
:*Fixed: I've fixed those problems promptly.
::--Birdienest81 (talk) 06:09, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Comprehensive, well-written and well-sourced list, it meets the criteria. --Carioca (talk) 22:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Comments –
- Comma needed after parenthetical AMPAS in the opening.
Winners and nominations: "the" needed in "Kevin Costner became fifth person...".- Ceremony information: Typo in "Despite losing eight members of her band in an plane crash two weeks earlier".
Ratings and reception: Some kind of punctuation (maybe a colon) is needed after "won three of those nominations".Giants2008 (Talk) 02:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
:Done: I have fixed everything you mentioned. Thank you for your help.
::--Birdienest81 (talk) 04:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
:::*You missed the first and third items, because they were still there when I re-reviewed the article. Giants2008 (Talk) 18:02, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
::::*Fixed: Added comma and changed 'an' to 'a.'
:::::--Birdienest81 (talk) 20:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support: The list is worthy of FL indeed.Ionutzmovie (talk) 03:42, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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