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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Peripitus}} AnomieBOT⚡ 12:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:Copyrighted video at YouTube.png}} ([{{fullurl:File:Copyrighted video at YouTube.png|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:Copyrighted video at YouTube.png}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:Copyrighted video at YouTube.png}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:Copyrighted video at YouTube.png}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by MisterWiki ([{{fullurl:User_talk:MisterWiki|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• Article discusses the attempts by YouTube to limit copyrighted content and some related lawsuits, but I fail to see why this image is needed. Essentially, it shows some details about a specific video, the YouTube logo and search bar, and a red banner saying that the video has been removed. What is this showing that increases understanding of the article in such a significant way? J Milburn (talk) 10:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Peripitus}} AnomieBOT⚡ 12:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:Thompson june debate.jpg}} ([{{fullurl:File:Thompson june debate.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:Thompson june debate.jpg}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:Thompson june debate.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:Thompson june debate.jpg}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by William S. Saturn ([{{fullurl:User_talk:William S. Saturn|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• I fail to see why readers need to see what Thompson looked like whole participating in the debate. Yes, his participation in the debate is important, how he looked is not important enough to justify the use of a non-free image from a commercial source. J Milburn (talk) 11:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

:Good comparison for readers to tell if Thompson was truly sick or not in the previous debate, since he was well during this photo. --William S. Saturn (talk) 22:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

::So, there are no free images of him well? Instead, we have to use a non-free one to illustrate what he looks like when he is well, so readers can compare to an image of when he may have been sick (his sickness being mentioned briefly in the article)? Sorry, that doesn't really hold as a reason to include a non-free image. J Milburn (talk) 23:16, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

:In your opinion. To me, the best way to see if he is sick or not is to use a similar image in a similar setting. --William S. Saturn (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

::That just happens to be non-free. J Milburn (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

:No free equivalent exists in a similar setting. --William S. Saturn (talk) 00:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

• Delete, decorative fair use. Stifle (talk) 22:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - fails NFCC#8 in not significantly increasing reader's understanding - Peripitus (Talk) 10:28, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:Tommy Thompson debate.jpg}} ([{{fullurl:File:Tommy Thompson debate.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:Tommy Thompson debate.jpg}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:Tommy Thompson debate.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:Tommy Thompson debate.jpg}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by William S. Saturn ([{{fullurl:User_talk:William S. Saturn|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• I fail to see why Thompson's appearance during the debate is important. Yes, the debate is, but how he looked is not important enough to warrant the use of a non-free image. The non-free use rationale mentions illness, but the article does not even mention it, and so this could not be used to justify the existence of the image. J Milburn (talk) 11:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

::The article does mention it. --William S. Saturn (talk) 18:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Could you please quote the relevant section? I must have missed it. J Milburn (talk) 18:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

::::I've seen it. "Thompson also said that he was sick during the debate, having been hospitalized three days earlier with the flu and bronchitis, and that all he could think about "was getting off the stage." I do not see why a non-free image is needed to illustrate that point. It pretty much speaks for itself. J Milburn (talk) 18:18, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

:::The readers can decide if he is sick or not. --William S. Saturn (talk) 18:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete. The licence is clearly incorrect. While the image may be {{tl|PD-UK}}, without information on the author we cannot be sure that they died prior to 1939 - Peripitus (Talk) 10:34, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:1BnHACYpres.jpg}} ([{{fullurl:File:1BnHACYpres.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:1BnHACYpres.jpg}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:1BnHACYpres.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:1BnHACYpres.jpg}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by Blackshod ([{{fullurl:User_talk:Blackshod|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• [http://www.iwmcollections.org.uk/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?AC=PREV_RECORD&XC=/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll&BU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iwmcollections.org.uk%2FqryMain.php&TN=Uncat&SN=AUTO13729&SE=5799&RN=1&MR=25&TR=0&TX=1000&ES=0&CS=1&XP=&RF=allResults&EF=&DF=allDetails&RL=0&EL=0&DL=0&NP=1&ID=&MF=WPENGMSG.INI&MQ=&TI=0&DT=&ST=0&IR=0&NR=0&NB=0&SV=0&BG=0&FG=0&QS= Source website] describes the image as an "amateur photograph". I doubt this is a work of the UK government. J Milburn (talk) 12:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Peripitus}} AnomieBOT⚡ 12:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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• Source website is full of blatant copyright violations. Even if it does release its content, I doubt this image is public domain. J Milburn (talk) 13:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: - Kept - (but moved to commons) - Peripitus (Talk) 10:38, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:Shanesun2.jpg}} ([{{fullurl:File:Shanesun2.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:Shanesun2.jpg}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:Shanesun2.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:Shanesun2.jpg}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by Sensei48 ([{{fullurl:User_talk:Sensei48|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• My personal snapshot of the subject was intended as an adjunct to an article whose main image was a copyrighted one deleted despite a fair use license. This image of the subject forty years after his notability as described in the article in no way serves to illustrate the biographical material in the article. Sensei48 (talk) 15:52, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Image was released into the public domain and can be used for any purpose including using it as a main image to illustrate what the subject looks like. Aspects (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• Strong keep. You want a free image of someone to be deleted, so that it can be replaced by a non-free one? A free image should always be used as the lead image in a biography like this if it is available, and if it is not available but could still be created, no image should be used. J Milburn (talk) 18:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• I believe I may have another free image uploadable to Commons of the subject at the time of his notability. No intention expressed or implied of substituting a fair use non-free image.Sensei48 (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• Then upload the other and replace it- this one can be moved to a section about his later life/current activities, while your older free image can be used in the infobox. Alternatively, this one could be kept in the infobox, depending on the decision of editors involved with the article. Either way, I don't see any reason to delete this high quality image. J Milburn (talk) 23:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• Keep per J Milburn. Stifle (talk) 22:43, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Peripitus}} AnomieBOT⚡ 12:05, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:BSNS.jpg}} ([{{fullurl:File:BSNS.jpg|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:BSNS.jpg}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:BSNS.jpg}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:BSNS.jpg}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by AimalCool ([{{fullurl:User_talk:AimalCool|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• Orphaned, unencyclopedic, the uploader is now indefblocked and just about all of his "I created this work entirely by myself" images were copied from the internet so there's no particular reason to believe this is really a free image. B (talk) 20:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and because part of the reason for the uploader's block was "Massive copyright violations".   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Stifle}} AnomieBOT⚡ 00:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

::File:{{ucfirst:ProfParkerIntCongressDentMaxfacRadiology.png}} ([{{fullurl:File:ProfParkerIntCongressDentMaxfacRadiology.png|action=delete&wpReason={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 July 16#File:ProfParkerIntCongressDentMaxfacRadiology.png}}}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:{{ucfirst:ProfParkerIntCongressDentMaxfacRadiology.png}}|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page={{urlencode:File:{{ucfirst:ProfParkerIntCongressDentMaxfacRadiology.png}}}}}}} logs]) - uploaded by Jondudent ([{{fullurl:User_talk:Jondudent|action=edit&preload=Template:idw_preload&editintro=Template:idw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs).

• Uploaded under a permission of "Wikipedia-only" with a source that did not indicate that the author held the permission to the image. I tagged the image for improved license-necessary; the uploader simply removed the template. I am bringing it to FfD because a) The image is not under a free license and b) there is nothing that says that the uploader has the rights to relicense it. NW (Talk) 23:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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