Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 September 30

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Persian santur.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Persian santur.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3APersian+santur.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Persian santur.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3APersian+santur.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Jonsafari ([{{fullurl:User talk:Jonsafari|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Uploader states that if a better picture is found to replace and one has been found and uploaded. the file name states it is a Persian Santur, but the description states that it is a Turkish Santur, which in might be tuned to Turkish keys, but that is a picture of an upside down Persian Santur Santurman (talk) 03:06, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: speedy kept, and nominator blocked. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

: :File:Dragon Ball Cast.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Dragon Ball Cast.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+26%23File%3AWindows+Lenovo.png%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Dragon Ball Cast.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ADragon+Ball+Cast.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Sarujo ([{{fullurl:User talk:Sarujo|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

The result was not accept!!!No deletion,no cease!!!202.40.137.196 (talk) 09:15, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

• Keep, and block the nominator. --Tryptofish (talk) 14:41, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• Delete nominator Bulwersator (talk) 07:56, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:WebRunner Flyer.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:WebRunner Flyer.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3AWebRunner+Flyer.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:WebRunner Flyer.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AWebRunner+Flyer.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by TigerC10 ([{{fullurl:User talk:TigerC10|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image fails to comply with Wikipedia Non-Free Content Criteria policy, article 8 (contextual significance). Also lacks a fair-use rationale. Fleet Command (talk) 11:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:JavaHomepage in HotJava1.0.gif ([{{fullurl:File:JavaHomepage in HotJava1.0.gif|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3AJavaHomepage+in+HotJava1.0.gif%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:JavaHomepage in HotJava1.0.gif|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AJavaHomepage+in+HotJava1.0.gif}} logs]) – uploaded by TigerC10 ([{{fullurl:User talk:TigerC10|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

This image fails to comply with Wikipedia Non-Free Content Criteria policy, article 8 (contextual significance). The article surely won't miss it. Fleet Command (talk) 11:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Druid.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:Druid.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3ADruid.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Druid.JPG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ADruid.JPG}} logs]) – uploaded by SillyPuttyJW ([{{fullurl:User talk:SillyPuttyJW|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unused and unidentifiable video game screenshot. Tagged as public domain but has supplied no evidence. Fleet Command (talk) 12:37, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

• Delete per nom - unused screenshot of a copyrighted game. — Kudu ^~I/O~ 22:18, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Britney Spears.gif ([{{fullurl:File:Britney Spears.gif|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3ABritney+Spears.gif%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Britney Spears.gif|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABritney+Spears.gif}} logs]) – uploaded by Spectrum1234 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Spectrum1234|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

OR,UE,LQ,CV Uniplex (talk) 12:58, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 04:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Horn of Africa.png ([{{fullurl:File:Horn of Africa.png|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3AHorn+of+Africa.png%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Horn of Africa.png|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AHorn+of+Africa.png}} logs]) – uploaded by Danlaycock ([{{fullurl:User talk:Danlaycock|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Image is absolutely, 100% replaceable, thus failing WP:NFCC#1. That said, my attention was drawn to this image by a dispute tag. Thus I'm putting this through FFD to ensure that everyone's behind is covered. If not for the dispute tag, I'd otherwise forgo the wait period and just speedy this obvious violation. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:06, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

• Keep As per the FUR, the image is used "To illustrate the fact that while Somaliland is not diplomatically recognised by any other state, third party sources treat it as an independent state. The significance of this image is that a major publisher included the disputed state of Somaliland as an independent state. Thus, recreating a free equivalant of this map would not be able to replace it." WP:NFC#UUI specifically gives this is an appropriate exception: "4. A map, scanned or traced from an atlas, to illustrate the region depicted. Use may be appropriate if the map itself is a proper subject for commentary in the article: for example, a controversial map of a disputed territory, if the controversy is discussed in the article." The controversy is discussed in Somaliland: "While Somaliland's independence is not diplomatically recognized by other states, it is depicted as a sovereign state by cartographers in some published atlases." TDL (talk) 17:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• Weak delete. The question comes down to how useful it is to the reader to understand the statement in the text about "cartographers in some published atlases" to actually see the image of this part of this map. It seems to me that one could, instead, have an inline cite to the appropriate page of this atlas, to accomplish the same thing. (I appreciate the argument that it would be bogus to substitute an editor-created version of the map for this purpose, although such an image could certainly be used, instead, to show the reader where the areas in question are located.) I just don't think it's that important for the reader to see the image in order to understand that some maps exist that include it as a state. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:46, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• Delete per Tryptofish. Readers can understand that such maps exist without seeing the maps themselves. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:10, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• Keep - allowed use Bulwersator (talk) 07:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
• How? SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
• Schu -- I would be interested in your comments, as nominator, on the first keep, above. Tx.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
• On the comment you refer to, why bother? Tryptofish already said what I was thinking - cite the atlas, but we don't need non-free material to prove it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:51, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
• Keep TDL has drawn our attention to WP:NFC#UUI point 4 which seems to describe the present situation closely. That is only a guideline and so its relevance here can be debated but I agree with Epeefleche that a guideline cannot be ignored by default. In the circumstances, given a seeming valid use of the image, whether the image is better or worse than a citation to the MapArt map is a matter for discussion at the articles. I shall change my !vote if I am persuaded by any refutation of the guideline. Thincat (talk) 18:20, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

::Admittedly, this is not black-and-white, but UUI is part of a list of uses that are generally not permitted. The question comes down to whether this use meets the exception given for controversial maps that are subjects of commentary. I think a case can be made that readers don't need to see this particular map in order to understand the controversy. An editor-created map can show the regions in question just as well, and once a reader knows where that is on a map, it is probably self-evident what a map like this one would look like. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:19, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:SWIFT.png ([{{fullurl:File:SWIFT.png|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3ASWIFT.png%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:SWIFT.png|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ASWIFT.png}} logs]) – uploaded by 718 Bot ([{{fullurl:User talk:718 Bot|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

No longer linked to any article kashmiri (talk) 16:08, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

• Replaced by :File:SWIFT.svg, delete Bulwersator (talk) 07:54, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Carlo2.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Carlo2.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3ACarlo2.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Carlo2.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ACarlo2.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Carlo.borodulin ([{{fullurl:User talk:Carlo.borodulin|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphaned, unencyclopedic Acather96 (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Mgr4Rw.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Mgr4Rw.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3AMgr4Rw.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Mgr4Rw.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AMgr4Rw.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Kumarrajendran ([{{fullurl:User talk:Kumarrajendran|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

See Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Kumarrajendran. Part of the problem here is that the user has physical possession of photographs (relating to M. G. Ramachandran as he is the grandson of MGR's wife), but many of them are just copies of government images and some movie stills. This one is a scanned image of a public event. —SpacemanSpiff 16:41, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:Mgrajaji4R.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Mgrajaji4R.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3AMgrajaji4R.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Mgrajaji4R.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AMgrajaji4R.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Kumarrajendran ([{{fullurl:User talk:Kumarrajendran|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

See above image also. See Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Kumarrajendran. Part of the problem here is that the user has physical possession of photographs (relating to M. G. Ramachandran as he is the grandson of MGR's wife), but many of them are just copies of government images and some movie stills. This one is a scanned image of a meeting of the current Chief Minister of the state with a past Chief Minister/Governor General, likely to be of official record. —SpacemanSpiff 16:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

::File:100px-Zurndorf.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:100px-Zurndorf.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3A100px-Zurndorf.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:100px-Zurndorf.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3A100px-Zurndorf.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Ksnow ([{{fullurl:User talk:Ksnow|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

It is copy of :File:Coat of arms of Zurndorf.svg (see Summary "from German Wikipedia") made in strange way - it is likely screenshot (blurry, pointless line on the right). It is impossible to delete this under db-1 (failed "in the same file format"). Unused. Bulwersator (talk) 17:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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::File:100px-Loretto.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:100px-Loretto.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3A100px-Loretto.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:100px-Loretto.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3A100px-Loretto.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Ksnow ([{{fullurl:User talk:Ksnow|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

It is copy of :File:AUT Loretto COA.svg (see Summary "from German Wikipedia") made in strange way - it is likely screenshot (blurry, strange filename). It is impossible to delete this under db-1 (failed "in the same file format"). Unused. Bulwersator (talk) 17:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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::File:Prince 241.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Prince 241.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2011+September+30%23File%3APrince+241.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Prince 241.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3APrince+241.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Handsopened ([{{fullurl:User talk:Handsopened|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Welcome 2 America Euro 2011 Tour; will become orphaned once merged. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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