Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 June 12#File:Helene3.PNG

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F7 by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} AnomieBOT⚡ 16:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Keep - Another request to delete the image of an article about a major and current event. This image is in fair use. RocketLauncher2 (talk) 14:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:PlayStation 4 Trasparent File.png ([{{fullurl:File:PlayStation 4 Trasparent File.png|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3APlayStation+4+Trasparent+File.png%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:PlayStation 4 Trasparent File.png|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3APlayStation+4+Trasparent+File.png}} logs]) – uploaded by Coolboy223 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Coolboy223|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Console has now been showcased at E3, so a free replacement is now possible. MASEM (t) 16:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Strong Keep The picture is just fine, no reason for deletion. The picture that Masem put in its place was a awful and an a unprofessional picture which didn't show the console and it's components clearly (with the view being constructed), keeping the picture and having it as the main article picture until the discussion is close is the best thing to do. TheDeviantPro (Talk) 10:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:That's not a sufficient reason. There's little discussion of the visual appearance of the unit, and what there is is perfectly represented by the free image. Now that the system has been reveal, any NFCC image of the system is violating NFCC#1, so this should be speedily deleted. --MASEM (t) 01:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

::Your replacement image IS actually inferior for illustrative purposes, regardless of theoretical legal rights... Why not simply contact Sony and ask them for an explicit permission or for an official press kit with images instead of doing what you're currently trying to do (which is not actually helpful to anyone)? Or all you care about is stroking your own ego by spamming others with abbreviations to Wiki policies? 173.68.110.16 (talk) 02:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:::Why? For one, we don't expect professional quality images for free media. Second, I can point to the image and show the console, controller, and camera unit. The basic shapes are clear (including that slant the base unit has). There's nothing else discussed on the appearance of the unit short of being a black box. It's perfect for replacement. The only possible complaint is the edge of the display case that cuts the image, but that does not hide the overall shape of it. --MASEM (t) 02:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Strong Keep This image is a LOT better than the SHITTY replacement that this user is trying to use WP:OWN to force into the article! The one for Xbox one is fine because there is NOT a HUGE THICK LINE through the WHOLE IMAGE which negates it's illustrative qualities! PantherLeapord (talk) 02:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:What illustrative qualities are being lost here? It's not like the line is obscuring 90% of the unit. You can tell the shape of the box with the case edge. As we have no discussion in detail from sources about how the unit appears, the free image does the job just fine. --MASEM (t) 02:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

::No; the free image does NOT do a better job of illustrating the unit! PantherLeapord (talk) 02:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:::It doesn't need to do a better job, it just needs to be equivalent for how the non-free was used, and in this case, it is. --MASEM (t) 02:41, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• Delete - Rather textbook failure of WP:NFCC #1, there's nothing else to discuss here. Tarc (talk) 02:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
• Delete - Fails WP:NFCC #1 Begoon ^talk 07:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy deleted - Falls under WP:CSD#F5 as an unused non-free media file for more than 7 days Harryboyles 11:42, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Xbox One Logo.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Xbox One Logo.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3AXbox+One+Logo.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Xbox One Logo.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AXbox+One+Logo.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by NQuiterio ([{{fullurl:User talk:NQuiterio|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Unit is out, ergo a non-free image is inappropriate MASEM (t) 19:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Strong keep - Unless you can point to a free replacement for the LOGO of the damn thing then this one HAS to stay! Besides which a goddamn LOGO is fine for us to use be it free or otherwise! Just accept that WP:NFCC exists and stop trying to cram shit into wikipedia because it's free! PantherLeapord (talk) 02:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:Er, we have a free image of just the logo. This image has the logo + the console on it, so it is non-free and duplicative of the one of the console. The logo part itself is free over here :File:Xboxone.png, but that's not what this file is. --MASEM (t) 02:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

::In that case why is there a separate logo image on almost EVERY game console article on here? By that logic it shouldn't be there since it is always on the console anyway! PantherLeapord (talk) 09:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:::You're missing the point. We have, separately, a free version of the Xbox One logo (it fails the threshold of originality as being plain text), and a non-free and a free version of just the console. This picture is duplicating both, and as it is non-free, is unnecessary. --MASEM (t) 13:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• Delete - Textbook WP:NFCC #1 failure. The current free image isn't perfect (no slight of the uploader indended, the project is grateful for an early capture IMO) but it's not terrible. In the coming weeks/months it is a virtual certainty that the XBox, PS4, etc...will be displayed more openly and thus provide people with the opportunity for clearer and closer shots. "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose". (emphasis mine). Tarc (talk) 12:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
• Delete fair use image that meets all WP:NFCC criteria - Since that's apparently what we do here now I may as well not get myself blocked over it! PantherLeapord (talk) 10:39, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Diannaa}} AnomieBOT⚡ 05:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

::File:Cavery Nisargadhama layout.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Cavery Nisargadhama layout.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3ACavery+Nisargadhama+layout.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Cavery Nisargadhama layout.jpg|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ACavery+Nisargadhama+layout.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Tinucherian ([{{fullurl:User talk:Tinucherian|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Derivative work of a map. The text is a simple list and not eligible for a copyright. Sreejith K (talk) 19:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

: It is the image of a simple area map display. Don't think it is a copyrighted map. Need expert opinion on this.-- Tinu Cherian - 01:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• Delete There is no evidence that the copyright to the map would have expired, which would require creation before 1941 (and other things). --Stefan2 (talk) 00:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Helene3.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Helene3.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3AHelene3.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Helene3.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AHelene3.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of unknown storm path. Does not match any of the relevant storms listed at Tropical Storm Helene. Without knowing what storm this is, the image is useless -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Delete this and all of the below. They're just fake storm tracks. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:39, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

:I obviously agree with the delete, but I would not call them fake storm tracks. Based on the upload dates, I believe they were all early on predictions of where the storm would go. If you compare these storms to the same in the 2006 Hurricane season, they seem to be in the same general areas, but the storms took a different path. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 20:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

::Eh, not quite. Helene formed in the far eastern Atlantic, far away from the Caribbean as in the image here. Gordon never entered the Caribbean as well. Debby was in the eastern Atlantic, not near Florida. They're the same names as the 2006 season, but that's to be expected if one is making fake tracks for a season. I say fake because there have been several fake season articles over the years, and users have made tracks for their accompanying storms. Many (most?) of those season articles have been deleted, or else I'd give an example, heh. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

• Delete all; these are fake storm tracks that were created by users for user pages that violate WP:FAKEARTICLE. The companion user page was nominated for deletion back in 2007. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 07:17, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Gordon3.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Gordon3.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3AGordon3.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Gordon3.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AGordon3.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of unknown storm path. Does not correspond to any storm listed at Tropical Storm Gordon. Without knowing what storm, this image is not useful -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Florence3.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Florence3.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3AFlorence3.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Florence3.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AFlorence3.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of unknown storm path. Does not correspond to any storm listed at Hurricane Florence. Without knowing what storm, this image is not useful -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Ernesto3.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Ernesto3.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3AErnesto3.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Ernesto3.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AErnesto3.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of unknown storm path. Does not correspond to any storm listed at Hurricane Ernesto. Might be the 2006 storm, which would then be replaced by the more accurate :File:Ernesto 2006 track.png -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:37, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Alberto3.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Alberto3.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3AAlberto3.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Alberto3.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AAlberto3.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of storm track map with no idea what storm could be. Does not correspond to any storm of Hurricane Alberto page. Without knowing the storm this is, the image has no use -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Beryl4.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Beryl4.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3ABeryl4.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Beryl4.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABeryl4.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of storm track map with no idea what storm could be. Does not correspond to any storm of Tropical Storm Beryl page. Without knowing the storm this is, the image has no use -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:41, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Orphan image of storm track map with no idea what storm could be. Does not correspond to any storm of Tropical Storm Chris page. Without knowing the storm this is, the image has no use -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:42, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|INeverCry}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:00, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

::File:Debby3.PNG ([{{fullurl:File:Debby3.PNG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+deletion%2F2013+June+12%23File%3ADebby3.PNG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Debby3.PNG|action=history}} history] | links | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ADebby3.PNG}} logs]) – uploaded by Weatherman90 ([{{fullurl:User talk:Weatherman90|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Orphan image of storm track map with no idea what storm could be. Does not correspond to any storm of Tropical Storm Debbie or the Hurricane Debby pages. Without knowing the storm this is, the image has no use -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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