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The result of the discussion was: keep in Human Nature (Michael Jackson song) only. ✗plicit 08:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

::File:Michael Jackson - Human Nature.ogg ([{{fullurl:File:Michael Jackson - Human Nature.ogg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+11%23File%3AMichael+Jackson+-+Human+Nature.ogg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Michael Jackson - Human Nature.ogg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AMichael+Jackson+-+Human+Nature.ogg}} logs]) – uploaded by Ceoil ([{{fullurl:User talk:Ceoil|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3AMichael+Jackson+-+Human+Nature.ogg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

Belongs in either Human Nature (Michael Jackson song) or Thriller (album)... or neither. Justification of using it in both articles seems unclear to me unless I stand corrected. George Ho (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

• Keep in song article since there is enough critical commentary there to justify its inclusion. Aspects (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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• Keep. If it belongs in at least one article, then it can be kept; inclusion in a second article is an editorial matter, not a case for deletion. BD2412 T 02:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: keep in Billie Jean only. ✗plicit 08:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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Belongs in either Billie Jean or Thriller (album)... or neither. Justification of using it in both articles seems unclear to me unless I stand corrected. George Ho (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

• Keep in song article since there is enough critical commentary there to justify its inclusion. Aspects (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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• Keep. If it belongs in at least one article, then it can be kept; inclusion in a second article is an editorial matter, not a case for deletion. BD2412 T 02:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 03:24, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

::File:Twix wrapped.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Twix wrapped.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3ATwix+wrapped.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Twix wrapped.jpg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ATwix+wrapped.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by SCEhardt ([{{fullurl:User talk:SCEhardt|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3ATwix+wrapped.jpg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log).

::File:Twix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Twix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3ATwix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Twix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ATwix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Evan-Amos ([{{fullurl:User talk:Evan-Amos|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3ATwix-PB-Wrapper-Small.jpg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log).

::File:Twix Xtra wrapper, UK, 2020.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Twix Xtra wrapper, UK, 2020.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3ATwix+Xtra+wrapper%2C+UK%2C+2020.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Twix Xtra wrapper, UK, 2020.jpg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ATwix+Xtra+wrapper%2C+UK%2C+2020.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Bretonbanquet ([{{fullurl:User talk:Bretonbanquet|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3ATwix+Xtra+wrapper%2C+UK%2C+2020.jpg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

these images are all used in the Twix article as exammples of packaging without any significant sourced commentary about the package. None of these images are used in the infobox as visual idebtification as that role is filled by :File:Twix-Wrapper-Small.jpg. These images are entirely decorative and fail WP:NFCC#8. -- Whpq (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 12:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

::File:CGAS NOLA.gif ([{{fullurl:File:CGAS NOLA.gif|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3ACGAS+NOLA.gif%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:CGAS NOLA.gif|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ACGAS+NOLA.gif}} logs]) – uploaded by Caglecubanski ([{{fullurl:User talk:Caglecubanski|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3ACGAS+NOLA.gif&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

Orphaned, superseded by :File:CGAS New Orleans Seal.svg on Commons. ✗plicit 04:39, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• Delete, redundant to Commons file. Salavat (talk) 07:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 13:06, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

::File:Roxanne, Roxanne excerpt.ogg ([{{fullurl:File:Roxanne, Roxanne excerpt.ogg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3ARoxanne%2C+Roxanne+excerpt.ogg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Roxanne, Roxanne excerpt.ogg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ARoxanne%2C+Roxanne+excerpt.ogg}} logs]) – uploaded by Philaweb ([{{fullurl:User talk:Philaweb|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3ARoxanne%2C+Roxanne+excerpt.ogg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

Justification for usage in Roxanne, Roxanne less clear. The article subject is more about the rivalry between two Roxannes instead of the song itself, depicted in the sample. Doubt it meets WP:NFCC#8, but I could be wrong. George Ho (talk) 08:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2022 November 25. ✗plicit 11:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

::File:EE Machine.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:EE Machine.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3AEE+Machine.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:EE Machine.jpg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AEE+Machine.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by Tanviranik ([{{fullurl:User talk:Tanviranik|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3AEE+Machine.jpg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

Dubious copyright claim due to low resolution and lack of metadata. TinEye indicates this image was on another website prior to the upload to Wikipedia. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 07:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 19:31, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

::File:Cover of Slumgirl Dreaming.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Cover of Slumgirl Dreaming.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2022+November+18%23File%3ACover+of+Slumgirl+Dreaming.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Cover of Slumgirl Dreaming.jpg|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ACover+of+Slumgirl+Dreaming.jpg}} logs]) – uploaded by KyloRen3 ([{{fullurl:User talk:KyloRen3|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3ACover+of+Slumgirl+Dreaming.jpg&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

Fails WP:NFCC#1. Firstly, a free-use image is available and used in the article. Secondly, the actress is still alive and a free use image could become available. -- Mike 🗩 19:28, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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Orphan Tristan Sterk (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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Orphan Tristan Sterk (talk) 20:21, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 01:00, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

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Unless the text alone (probably describing the scene?) is harder to understand, I only see the singer performing in a music video screenshot. I fail to see how the image is contextually significant to the subject of discussion. George Ho (talk) 20:32, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

• While the caption used does seem to accurately describe the image as a frame from the music video, I'm not seeing why a non-free image is compellingly necessary to illustrate this encyclopedia article. I concur with George Ho's assessment that this fails the tests of NFCC#8; the image doesn't significantly improve the page, and the article would not suffer significantly for the image's removal. Under that criteria, I might be inclined to keep this image if the video itself were the subject of the page. BusterD (talk) 20:33, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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