Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2023 October 28#File:Mater (Cars).png

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 16:46, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

::File:Mater (Cars).png ([{{fullurl:File:Mater (Cars).png|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3AFiles+for+discussion%2F2023+October+20%23File%3AMater+%28Cars%29.png%5D%5D}} delete] {{!}} talk {{!}} [{{fullurl:File:Mater (Cars).png|action=history}} history] {{!}} links {{!}} [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AMater+%28Cars%29.png}} logs]) – uploaded by Carniolus ([{{fullurl:User talk:Carniolus|action=edit&preload=Template:Fdw_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=File%3AMater+%28Cars%29.png&editintro=Template:Fdw_editintro§ion=new&create=Post+a+comment}} notify] {{!}} contribs {{!}} uploads {{!}} upload log). 

This is a non-free image for which it is claimed that it cannot be replaced as no free image exists, but we have the free image :file:Mater_(9284955990).jpg Meters (talk) 06:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

:Raising it at XFD as the free image keeps getting removed from the article and replaced by the non-free image, invalidating the Di-orphaned non-free use template. Meters (talk) 07:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

::Comment Note that the supposed free alternative is currently nominated for deletion at Commons. Felix QW (talk) 20:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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• Keep: Any "free" alternative would still be a DW and therefore a copyvio. — MATRIX! (a good person!)^{[Citation not needed at all; thank you very much]} 13:30, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
• Keep The "free" image at WikiCommons is already tagged for deletion. There is no free alternative for an copyrighted animated character. Aspects (talk) 20:32, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
• To head off any mention of WP:FREER - it doesn't apply here. We're not comparing two equally-derivative photos of a nonfree work, one nonfree and one free; we're comparing a nonfree 3D rendering and a free photo of a nonfree sculpture of the nonfree render. Keep, or restore if it gets speedied as an F5 for being edit-warred off the article before the Commons version is deleted. —Cryptic 20:57, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow • talk 16:46, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

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Claim is that this is not replaceable as: "There is no free image available that depicts this character" but we have the free image :file:1952 Hudson Hornet ' Doc ' (24400455231).jpg

Raising it at XFD as the free image keeps getting removed from the article and replaced by the non-free image, invalidating the Di-orphaned non-free use template. Meters (talk) 07:04, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

• Comment the "free" file is nominated for deletion as a copyright violation :COMMONS:COM:Deletion requests/File:1952 Hudson Hornet ' Doc ' (24400455231).jpg -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 04:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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:Keep: Any "free" alternative would still be a DW and therefore a copyvio. — MATRIX! (a good person!)^{[Citation not needed at all; thank you very much]} 13:30, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

• Keep There are three "free" images already in use in the article that have been in the article for years. but never in the infobox to represent the character. There have been two "free" images that have recently been used in the infobox. All five of these images are people cosplaying their cars as an animated character. There is no free alternative for an copyrighted animated character. Aspects (talk) 20:34, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
• As per the Mater image above, WP:FREER doesn't apply; keep or restore. —Cryptic 20:57, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2023 November 6. FASTILY 06:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Procedural close, not actionable and not a matter for FfD. This is an editorial issue that is better suited for the article's talk page -FASTILY 08:41, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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There is an IP claiming that this image is of Ali Pasha of Ioannina rather than the article subject. Anyone familiar enough with the topic to assess who this is? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:07, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Procedural close, not actionable and not a matter for FfD. This is an editorial issue that is better suited for the article's talk page -FASTILY 08:41, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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According to an IP, this is Pyrrhus Concer but I don't know the people involved enough to know who this is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:15, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 10:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Seems to be this monument in B&H, which has no freedom of panorama. Considering this is a monument for the Yugoslav war, which only started in 1991, it is doubtful that this monument is public domain. — MATRIX! (a good person!)^{[Citation not needed at all; thank you very much]} 13:27, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

: Delete per nomination. Abzeronow (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

:Keep. /Delete. sorry about the misquote, it's not that I didn't read the whole article, I just didn't connect the dots/ The monument is in public domain. See: [https://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text/477429 Law on Copyright and Related Rights of Bosnia and Herzegovina (via WIPO)]:{{tqb|Article 52 (Works Permanently Located in Public Places){{pb}}(1) The free use of the works permanently located in squares, parks, streets or other places accessible by the public shall be permitted.}}—Alalch E. 21:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete - the freedom of panorama noted above does not extend to commercial use. You need to continue reading to paraagraph (2) which outlines prohibitions: "The works referred to in paragraph (1) of this Article shall not be reproduced in three-dimensional form, used for the same purpose as the original work or used for gaining economic advantage." -- Whpq (talk) 22:22, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
• :What's the economic advantage, I don't understand. Edit: WMF?—Alalch E. 22:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
• ::It means commercial use is not allowed and so this is not compatible with our licensing. -- Whpq (talk) 22:33, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
• :::Ah, right. —Alalch E. 22:35, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 (talk - email) 02:28, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Orphaned, not used in any articles, and is marked keep local. It is basically Wikipedia hosting itself. Seawolf35 (talk - email) 18:49, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

:Are there any issues with keeping it though, to retain readability of the talk page it is used on? Felix QW (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

::None at all. In use and in-scope. Keep. —Cryptic 23:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2023 November 6. FASTILY 06:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: deleted by uploader. El C. (non-admin closure) Seawolf35 (talk - email) 20:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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No use whatsoever. Wikipedia is hosting itself again. Seawolf35 (talk - email) 18:55, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

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