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Screen captures from the music video don't contextually signify the song in question. George Ho (talk) 05:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep but modify In this case, the music video is discussed in length and an image of the video is appropriate. However, it should be a single image, not two. Buffs (talk) 16:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• : Did you watch the music video yet? Which scene/screenshot do you think readers cannot do without, i.e. why aren't words enough? From what I see, the section describes mostly video synopsis. I'll treat your vote as "undecided" if you're unsure which one. Is that all right? --George Ho (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::To be blunt, no, it's not all right to "treat [my] vote as 'undecided' if [I'm] unsure which one". I've stated my opinion on the subject and it stands as-is and so does my !vote (we don't actually "vote" on Wikipedia; we work to build consensus. Dismissing/downgrading my statement in this manner as somehow lesser than yours is inherently arrogant and condescending). I don't need to watch the whole music video in order to offer an opinion on whether a frame of it is appropriate within this context and neither should anyone else. I also recognize that my opinion is not the only one and am willing to be convinced otherwise, not have demands tossed at me. Buffs (talk) 18:53, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::{{tq|Dismissing/downgrading my statement in this manner as somehow lesser than yours is inherently arrogant and condescending.}} I didn't mean to come across as what you've described (hopefully inaccurately?). I just was puzzled by your votes below and your favoring possibly random screenshots, like this nomination. In this case, I honestly wasn't sure whether you favor either one of the singer's dances or the singer with a woman. George Ho (talk) 19:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::::I don't care which one. Buffs (talk) 20:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 15:10, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Two-screenshot collage from the music video doesn't contextually signify the song in question. (Free image of featured artist should compensate, IMO.) George Ho (talk) 05:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep but modify In this case, the music video is discussed in length and an image of the video is appropriate. However, it should be a single image, not two. Buffs (talk) 16:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• : Did you watch the music video yet? Which scene/screenshot do you think readers cannot do without, i.e. why aren't words enough? From what I see, the section describes mostly video synopsis. I'll treat your vote as "undecided" if you're unsure which one. Is that all right? --George Ho (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Same as above; not going to retype here. Buffs (talk) 18:53, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Screenshot of music video doesn't contextually signify the song in question. George Ho (talk) 06:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep In this case, the music video is discussed in length and an image of the video is appropriate. I think a better clip could be chosen than this one though...pick one and replace, not add. Buffs (talk) 16:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• : Did you watch the music video yet? Which scene/screenshot do you think readers cannot do without, i.e. why aren't words enough? From what I see, the section describes mostly video synopsis. I'll treat your vote as "undecided" if you're unsure which one. Is that all right? --George Ho (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Same as above; not going to retype here. Buffs (talk) 18:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Screenshot of music video doesn't contextually signify the song in question. George Ho (talk) 06:08, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep In this case, the music video is discussed in length and an image of the video is appropriate. Buffs (talk) 16:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• : From what I see, the section describes mostly video synopsis. In your own words, how would deleting this screenshot (of the singer and background dancers from far-distance) affect the understanding of the topic? George Ho (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Same as above; not going to retype here. Buffs (talk) 18:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 15:11, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Screenshot of music video doesn't contextually signify the whole song in question. George Ho (talk) 23:56, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep In this case, the music video is discussed in length and an image of the video is appropriate. Buffs (talk) 17:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• : From what I see, the section describes mostly video synopsis. In your own words, how would deleting this ("risque") screenshot affect the understanding of the topic? George Ho (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Same as above; not going to retype here. Buffs (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 15:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Screenshot of music video doesn't contextually signify the whole song in question. Also, easy to summarize already. George Ho (talk) 23:59, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

• Keep In this case, the music video is discussed in length and an image of the video is appropriate. Buffs (talk) 17:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• : Were you saying this just because you were copying and pasting your votes, the screenshot shows the singer with a woman lying down in a hospital, or why else? I have a hard time being convinced by your vote, honestly. In your own words, how would deleting this screenshot (of a touching scene) affect the understanding of the topic? George Ho (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::Same as above; not going to retype here. Buffs (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::I take it back, I'll add one more thing here re:{{tq|Were you saying this just because you were copying and pasting your votes...}}: how rude. I wrote my response and, because it applied to more than one thing, I reused it. I shouldn't have to justify what I wrote as being sincere. I didn't question your sincerity about 6 video images from the same singer. I didn't say "Do you just hate Usher or are you just trying to flex power here to push others around?". The arrogance at attempting to minimize my !vote over yours is galling. WP:AGF dude. Buffs (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• ::::{{tq|The arrogance at attempting to minimize my !vote over yours is galling.}} I never meant to do what you described. I just have had a hard time taking your votes here seriously, but then again, my rationales are probably generic as well. Still, I didn't multi-nom here because I figured the screenshots are probably too different to discuss. George Ho (talk) 19:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• :::::{{tq|I never meant to do what you described. I just have had a hard time taking your votes here seriously.}} Really? Let's start by just taking every comment "seriously". You may not have meant to do it, but you just did it again. Your continued patronizing remarks here are supercilious to the extreme. I'm going to stop replying at this point. I said what I said and I meant what I meant. Buffs (talk) 20:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep since there is enough sourced critical commentary to justify its inclusion thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. Aspects (talk) 15:12, 26 May 2025 (UTC)