Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/Sep 2018
{{Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/2018}}
sombrero
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:06, 30 September 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Harry S Truman sombrero.jpg
File:Sombrero.png
;Article(s):
: sombrero
;Request:
: please create new png file, background and shading removed, named File:sombrero.png, which is available… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 22:00, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 04:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:06, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Quechan
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)}}
;Article(s):
: Quechan
;Request:
: please remove background… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 22:06, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 04:43, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Doris Mackinnon
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)}}
{{GLNF|Doris Mackinnon.png}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim below bordering… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:04, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} Centpacrr (talk) 04:40, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you {{u|Centpacrr}}, that's significantly better!
::Also, since this is a 91-year old photo, does anyone know why it shouldn't be public domain by now?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Kintetsubuffalo}} From the description of the file: "Subject died in 1956, unlikely to be any free images yet." PawełMM (talk) 20:42, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Robert Underwood Johnson
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Robert Underwood Johnson in 1920.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove excess white framing… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 10:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Jochem Bobeldijk
Kanoploeg van Helsinki. J. Bobeldijk, Bestanddeelnr 905-1718.jpg|Jochem Bobeldijk
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove tape down right & name top right -if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 12:18, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 12:45, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:Also {{done}} It looks like Paweł beat me to it. You can check the thumbs down below the main preview to see which version you like better and revert as necessary. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:22, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::IMHO {{ping|MPants at work}} version is better. Regards PawełMM (talk) 14:04, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::In all honesty, both of our tape removals are obvious on close inspection, but neither are obvious at typical viewing size. With that in mind, I strongly suspect you did yours in 1/10th the time I did, which evinces a keen artistic eye. Also, did you notice the evidence of airbrushing near the top right? I'm always amused to see an image I'm working on has been worked before, especially by hand. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::: I like them both! Thank you both, Vysotsky (talk) 14:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}} (and image used immediately): Jochem Bobeldijk Vysotsky (talk) 14:12, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Peggy Sue
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC)}}
{{GLNF|Buddy Holly Peggy Sue Coral.jpg}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please rotate to straight… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:23, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
:{{done}} ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:27, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:That was fast, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Nineveh Plain Forces
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:32, 5 October 2018 (UTC)}}
{{GLNF|Nineveh Plain Forces Logo.jpg}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim to shield… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 04:07, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:32, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Wills & Jacobs
Wereldkampioenschappen trampoline-springen te Amersfoort Judy Wills en David Jac, Bestanddeelnr 921-9036.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove scratches (if possible). Vysotsky (talk) 13:53, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 15:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
: Thanks. Looks good! Vysotsky (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Emmy Verhey
Musici, wedstrijden, violisten, verhey mw e, tschaikowsky concours, Bestanddeelnr 093-1212.jpg|Emmy Verhey
(Moscow, 1966)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please clean-up, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} Centpacrr (talk) 20:12, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
{{Done}} second version. Revert as needed. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 20:35, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:Great. Thank you both. What a beauty! Vysotsky (talk) 21:57, 4 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Kees van Bruggen
Auteurs, verjaardagen, bruggen k van, Bestanddeelnr 094-0293.jpg|Kees van Bruggen
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove number (top right), if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 21:54, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} Centpacrr (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:Looks good. Thanks, Vysotsky (talk) 21:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Acoma Pueblo
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:51, 5 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Corral between the rock walls near the Acoma Pueblo, 1886 (CHS-4530).jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove border… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:14, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:51, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Who Do You Love?
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 21:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)}}
{{GLNF|Who Do You Love? single cover.jpg}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please rotate slightly to straight… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:48, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:23, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 21:06, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Eurovision Song Festival Netherlands
Nationale finale Eurovisie Songfestival in Circustheater in Scheveningen. Bonnie, Bestanddeelnr 932-0022.jpg|Bonnie St. Claire
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove black smudge, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 21:55, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:16, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:Tnanks. Looks better. Vysotsky (talk) 10:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
University of Paris
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Four nations of the University of Paris.png
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim off unwikilike top caption-the description in the file should be enough… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 21:04, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 04:32, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: André Beaufre
Nato, vertegenwoordigers, Beaufre, Heusinger, Washington, Amerika, Bestanddeelnr 093-1264.jpg|André Beaufre, Adolf Heusinger and others
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove numer (down right), if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 16:12, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 17:42, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanx. Vysotsky (talk) 18:49, 6 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Paul Martin
{{tl|resolved|PawełMM (talk) 12:17, 7 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Girl_Scouts_Competition_Letter.jpg
;Article(s)
:Paul Martin (illustrator); via ref. #46
;Request
RE File:Girl-Scouts-Competion-Letter.jpg.
Hello. I uploaded this 1931 Girl Scouts letter, about six months ago. The original was in very poor shape, especially along the sides, and beyond repair. Nonetheless, no text was affected (except ending of last word "Division".) It's important to save, as contains original info which would be otherwise lost to history. It backs up detail in the Wikipedia article "Paul Martin (illustrator)." The letter is reachable there through reference #46.
Anyway, I was hoping that someone at "Commons" can lighten it up while maintaining its focus. The letter looks too dark. I think it would look more presentable if lightened up. (Convert to gray scale?) I don't have the ability to make any proper correction with my basic image editor. I can lighten it up, but then unfortunately, the text also becomes lighter. Thanks. Jim Percy (talk) 05:04, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
::{{ping|Centpacrr}} I appreciate your effort (and the straightening it out which wasn't even requested), but why are the words in lower right on light side. Can't those words be made darker to blend in with rest of letter, which would also be truer to the original. Namely, "Cordially yours, Harry L. Gilchriese Secretary, Public Relations Divisi" (also signature and date "Feb. 9, 1931", but those are not as important.) Okay. Thanks. -- Jim Percy (talk) 04:55, 22 September 2018 (UTC) PS. Maybe by lowering the brightness level on the lower half or third. The top portion seems to be about the right brightness level (or at least in the way my mind thinking).
- {{ping|JimPercy}} I took a stab at it. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 16:39, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|MPants at work}} I'm dealing with this copy: https://vgy.me/5JV0ih.jpg (I only blanked out street address & lowered size a spec.) There are age and distance factors, that make getting a better copy to work with, not possible. Your fix might be good enough. I'll keep it in place. I know another editor at Commons worked on it several days ago, and appreciated that person's efforts. But, a few bogus partial-letters in the farthest upper right of letterhead shouldn't have been there. Also, the strength of typing was seemingly compromised, by the lightening of the item. I just thought it would look more presentable &/or natural if not so bright. Hence, re-uploaded the image a couple so days ago. I was able to position the item so that the entire word "Division" in far lower right was included (instead of just the Divis" part). I had to blank out a tiny spec of the middle right edge letterhead for that to work though. One has to look real closely to notice that. Jim Percy (talk) 19:01, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimPercy}}I might be able to do a better job with that full color version. Do me a favor and leave a message on my talk page so I'll notice it when I get to my home computer tonight. I might be able to focus, straighten, clean and enhance the color version way better than I did the greyscale one. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 20:05, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|MPants at work}} I sent you an email around 7:45 PM on Wednesday. Hope it went through. Jim Percy (talk) 03:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
:::It sure did, and I responded. I'll be done soon. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 03:42, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
:::{{done}} That should be perfectly legible. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 04:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Request: Paul Martin 2: Electric boogaloo
{{tl|resolved|PawełMM (talk) 12:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Foreign_Service_Poster_Letter.jpg
;Article(s)
:Paul Martin (illustrator); via ref. #60 & 217
;Request
I received assistance from this workshop four days ago, which was much appreciated. However, there is one more of my uploads in somewhat dire need of imaging assistance.
I uploaded this 1932 Foreign Service letter, about six months ago. The original camera shot was in sub-par shape. Nonetheless, I felt important to save, as contains original info which would be otherwise lost to history. It backs up detail in the Wikipedia article "Paul Martin (illustrator)." The letter is reachable there through references #60 & 217.
I uploaded every image in the following category. The painting turned into poster turned into magazine referred to in this letter, can be viewed under the heading "Composite Illustration no. 2" at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Paul_Martin_(illustrator)
Here is how it looks in its original state, with bright yellow camera date and folded back corners: https://vgy.me/ODtczj.jpg
- IMPORTANT IMPORTANT Today, I did clean up to a degree, three of the sides (lower right too difficult or best left as-is) and along the margins, but not the dimensions or anything else. I think this would be the one that someone at The Workshop, would find easiest to work with: https://vgy.me/W1pe8J.jpg
Anyway, I was hoping that someone at "Commons" can lighten it up while maintaining its focus (too dark). Also, the alignment and/or dimensions are off, due to the (wrongly angled) original camera shot. Outline of edges needs to be leveled out. The size is 3,000 x 4000 pixels, which reckon should be lowered to 1693 x 2161 pixels or less. General detail: I received it on a CD mailed cross country, hence, not possible to retake the image.
Thanks. Hope not overly time consuming. Jim Percy (talk) 19:54, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
:{{I take}} I've got much of the work I did to fix the other one stored as actions in Photoshop, so I should be able to handle this one fairly quickly. Uhh, once I get home, that is (I'll still take a crack at it at work ;) ). ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 19:58, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{done}} If you like, I can revisit it when I get home, but I think GIMP did a decent job, if I say so myself. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 20:20, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|MPants at work}} In my post of earlier today, I had links to three different images of the same. It seems that there was enough to work with, in my upload of July 7, 2018. Yes, today's fix-up is an improvement. Lighter and even darker text. Thanks. Jim Percy (talk) 21:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:Okay, I've lightened the background again, but the text is about as dark as it's gonna get without becoming blurry. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 21:28, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|MPants at work}} I meant to type, "Yours is lighter and even darker text."
:Ha! Oops. Feel free to revert back, then. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 21:38, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|MPants at work}} I did lighten up your effort a little, while trying not to lose much in text darkness. I suppose this is closer to what I had in mind. However, reckon what counts is the preference of Commons. It can always be changed back to the previous one. I only have a basic (free) desktop image editor to work with. I figured there's a slight tear in the original, hence, it should stay in rather than compromise the integrity. Jim Percy (talk) 00:47, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
::Get the GIMP at [https://www.gimp.org/ https://www.gimp.org/]. It's almost as powerful as Photoshop, and actually better for some purposes (inking pencil drawings, for example). ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 01:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
{{ping|MPants at work}} Oh, maybe better than my IrfanView, that have had for many years. Jim Percy (talk) 01:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC) 01:32, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimPercy}} Ha! I used to have IrfanView on my original Pentium machine. The one with the 56k modem and a whole stack of AOL "free trial" CDs that I used to use to get on the BBSes and talk about the latest episode of The X-Files.
:But yeah, the GIMP is way more powerful than that. It'll take some learning to really take advantage of the power, but there are plenty of tutorials online for it. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 01:44, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Francis Nash
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Nash hooper house hillsboro north carolina usa.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove border-a separate image does not need made… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Whaling
Visserij Walvisvangst, Bestanddeelnr 036-0147.jpg|Wahling 1947
Visserij Walvisvangst, Bestanddeelnr 036-0171.jpg
Visserij Walvisvangst, Bestanddeelnr 036-0165.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove numbers (if possible). Vysotsky (talk) 22:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 06:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 10:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Creed Bratton
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Creed Bratton.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim to focus on Creed, a new image does not need made… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:11, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:Better, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Richard Wagner
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Richard Wagner with Eva 1867 at Tribschen.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim to photo-a separate image does not need created… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:28, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 18:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
:thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:42, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Rats of Tobruk
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 19:25, 11 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Rats of Tobruk Mosaic, Mackay, Queensland, Australia.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please fix perspective-new image does not need created-if it looks weird, we can revert… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:36, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:Very nice, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 19:25, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Soldier of Orange
Request: Ben Peeters
Ben Peeters (trainer Feijenoord), Bestanddeelnr 921-6432.jpg|Ben Peeters
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove irregularities, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 22:10, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:11, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:Nice job. Thanks. Vysotsky (talk) 07:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Fortunate Son
{{GLNF|Fortunate Son label.jpeg}}
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please rotate to straight… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:41, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:28, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
penny
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:1831 William IV penny.jpeg
;Article(s):
: penny
;Request:
: please rotate to straight and remove background… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 19:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 04:53, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
She's a Beauty
{{GLNF|The Tubes - She's a Beauty.jpg}}
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2018 (UTC)}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please rotate to straight… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:02, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:30, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Charles Lee
{{tl|resolved|PawełMM (talk) 08:30, 13 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Charles Lee Esq'r. - Americanischer general-major.jpg|Charles Lee Esq'r. - Americanischer general-major.jpg
File:Charles Lee Esq'r. - Americanischer general-major (cropped).jpg|Charles Lee Esq'r. - Americanischer general-major (cropped).jpg
File:General Charles Lee.jpg|File:general Charles Lee.jpg - A file with this name already exists.
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please make new variant, trimmed to oval, named File:general Charles Lee… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:16, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you {{u|PawełMM}}! Since he wasn't German, can you please shorten the name to File:Charles Lee Esq'r?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:25, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Kintetsubuffalo}} I suggest, however, to keep the original name as given by the original file loading. In this way, the coincidence will be preserved with the original. PawełMM (talk) 16:38, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Kintetsubuffalo}} IMHO resolved. PawełMM (talk) 08:30, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
Selina Siggins
{{tl|resolved|PawełMM (talk) 05:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Selina Siggins.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please clean up some of the streaking around her face… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:57, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{I take|Centpacrr (talk) 08:53, 14 October 2018 (UTC)}}
{{Done}} Centpacrr (talk) 09:24, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:That's great, thank you {{u|Centpacrr}}! (and {{u|PawełMM}}, the requester should be the one to mark them completed)--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:31, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Tim Robards
{{tl|resolved}}
Tim Robards, Anna Heinrich (14381113056).jpg|Tim Robards and Anna Heinrich
Tim Robards.jpg|Tim Robards
;Article(s):
: Tim Robards, List of Neighbours characters (2018)
;Request:
: Could a crop of Tim's head and shoulders be created for potential use in an infobox? -- JuneGloom07 Talk 17:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 19:48, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:That's excellent, thank you {{u|PawełMM}}! - JuneGloom07 Talk 22:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Twilight of the Gods
{{tl|resolved}}
{{GLNF|Twilight of the Gods (Clapham and Miller novel).jpg}}
;Article(s):
: Twilight of the Gods (Clapham and Miller novel)
;Request:
: Please crop the white spaces or upload a file without the. If you do the former, just use the original file and shrink that down rather than use the one already there. Thanks in advance -- 109.79.245.133 (talk) 22:25, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
Request: Baba Sy (draughts)
Deelnemers wereldkampioenschap dammen op het stadhuis door gemeentebestuur - Nationaal Archief - 911-6703.jpg|Baba Sy (1)
{{Tick}} by MjolnirPants
Deelnemers wereldkampioenschap dammen op het stadhuis door gemeentebestuur, vl, Bestanddeelnr 911-6705.jpg|Baba Sy (2)
{{Tick}} by PawełMM
Internationaal damtoernooi in Amsterdam Baba Sy en een meisje, Bestanddeelnr 913-3631.jpg|Baba Sy (3)
{{Tick}} by PawełMM
;Article(s):
: Baba Sy
;Request:
: Please remove white stains (if possible). Vysotsky (talk) 21:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 07:28, 17 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Teddy Scholten
Eurovisie Songfestival 1959. Nederlandse finale. Teddy Scholten wordt gefelicit…, Bestanddeelnr 910-1617.jpg|Teddy Scholten (1)
Nederlandse finale vlnr Corry Brokken, Teddy Scholten, Greetje Kauffeld, Bestanddeelnr 910-1619.jpg|Teddy Scholten (2)
Teddy_en_Henk_Scholten_gaan_naar_Duitse_TV,_Bestanddeelnr_913-2777.jpg|Teddy Scholten (3)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove white stains, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 08:41, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 09:20, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks once more! Vysotsky (talk) 11:16, 17 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Horace Silver
Nachtconcert van het Horeca Silverquintet in het concertgebouw te Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 910-1687.jpg|Horace Silver Quintet (1959-1)
Nachtconcert van het Horeca Silverquintet in het concertgebouw te Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 910-1688.jpg|Horace Silver Quintet (1959-2)
Nachtconcert van het Horeca Silverquintet in het concertgebouw te Amsterdam, vl, Bestanddeelnr 910-1692.jpg|Horace Silver Quintet (1959-3)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove white stains (if possible). Vysotsky (talk) 23:11, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 08:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Horace Silver (end)
Nachtconcert van het Horeca Silverquintet in het concertgebouw te Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 910-1689.jpg|Horace Silver Quintet (4)
Nachtconcert van het Horeca Silverquintet in het concertgebouw te Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 910-1690.jpg|Horace Silver Quintet (5)
Nachtconcert van het Horeca Silverquintet in het concertgebouw te Amsterdam, dru, Bestanddeelnr 910-1691.jpg|Horace Silver Quintet (6)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove white stains (if possible). Vysotsky (talk) 08:12, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 13:09, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks, as ever. Vysotsky (talk) 20:14, 18 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Cilli Wang (1)
Cilli Wang het mondaine danspaar, Bestanddeelnr 038-1065.jpg|Cilli Wang (1)
Cilli Wang Salon Giraf, Bestanddeelnr 038-1055.jpg|Cilli Wang (2)
Cilli Wang Spoken, Bestanddeelnr 038-1050.jpg|Cilli Wang (3)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove labels (if possible). Vysotsky (talk) 07:29, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 08:00, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
: Great! Vysotsky (talk) 08:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Cilli Wang (2)
Cilli Wang de Ländler, Bestanddeelnr 038-1054.jpg|Cilli Wang (4)
Cilli Wang de schilder, Bestanddeelnr 038-1053.jpg|Cilli Wang (5)
Cilli Wang de schilder, Bestanddeelnr 038-1060.jpg|Cilli Wang (6)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove watermarks, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 08:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 09:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks. Vysotsky (talk) 10:30, 19 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Russian chess
Alexander Kuindzhy.jpg|Kuindzhy
;Article(s):
: World Junior Chess Championship
;Request:
: Please remove irregularities (face, left). Vysotsky (talk) 10:32, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 11:01, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
:Applause! Vysotsky (talk) 11:17, 19 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Cili Wang (cont.)
Cilli Wang de Ländler, Bestanddeelnr 038-1052.jpg|Cilli Wang (7)
Cilli Wang de Ländler, Bestanddeelnr 038-1059.jpg|Cilli Wang (8)
Cilli Wang de opgeblazen soldaat, Bestanddeelnr 038-1058.jpg|Cilli Wang (9)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove watermarks, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 10:46, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
Request: Cilli Wang (cont.)
Cilli Wang de schilder, Bestanddeelnr 038-1049.jpg|Cilli Wang (10)
Cilli Wang de schilder, Bestanddeelnr 038-1060.jpg|Cilli Wang (11)
Cilli Wang de schilder, Bestanddeelnr 038-1066.jpg|Cilli Wang (12)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove watermarks, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 11:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 11:55, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
:Great! Vysotsky (talk) 13:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Annie Smith Peck
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:AnnieSmithPeckTradingCard.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove dark strip at bottom… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:46, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 06:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Cili Wang (cntd)
Cilli Wang de vogel, Bestanddeelnr 038-1064.jpg|Cilli Wang (13)
Cilli Wang de wrek, Bestanddeelnr 038-1062.jpg|Cilli Wang (14)
Cilli Wang het mondaine danspaar, Bestanddeelnr 038-1056.jpg|Cilli Wang (15)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove watermarks, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 13:45, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 15:30, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks@! Vysotsky (talk) 14:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Petula Clark
Aankomst Petula Clark op Schiphol, Bestanddeelnr 911-1039.jpg
Aankomst Petula Clark op Schiphol, Petula Clark met bloemen, Bestanddeelnr 911-1041.jpg
Aankomst Petula Clark op Schiphol, Petula Clark op we naar het stationsgebouw, Bestanddeelnr 911-1042.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove watermarks, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 14:09, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 14:36, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Cilli Wang (last)
Cilli Wang de vrolijke acrobaatjes, Bestanddeelnr 038-1063.jpg|Cilli Wang (16)
Cilli Wang het mondaine danspaar, Bestanddeelnr 038-1057.jpg|Cilli Wang (17)
Cilli Wang Spoken, Bestanddeelnr 038-1061.jpg|Cilli Wang (18)
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove watermarks, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
: Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 16:19, 20 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Gerry Mulligan
Concert van Jerry Mulligan in het concertgebouw, Bestanddeelnr 911-7437.jpg
Concert van Jerry Mulligan in het concertgebouw, Bestanddeelnr 911-7438.jpg
Aankomst Gerry Mulligan op Schiphol, Bestanddeelnr 908-6010.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove white stains, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 00:07, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 06:25, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks. Vysotsky (talk) 10:38, 21 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
farthing
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:54, 23 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Britfarthing1954obv.jpg
;Article(s):
: farthing
;Request:
: please remove cropped shading… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 21:17, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:54, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
George Coulthard
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:55, 23 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:George Coulthard.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim to oval… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 22:06, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:20, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:55, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Southfields
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Pulborough.jpg
File:Pulborough Road Southfields 1907.jpg
File:Pulborough Road Southfields 1912.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please split to separate images, named File:Pulborough Road Southfields 1907 and File:Pulborough Road Southfields 1912 … -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:34, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:15, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Tenterfield-'''Boilerplate''' ''do not create a new image as it is not needed''.
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:44, 24 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:StateLibQld 1 236927 View of Tenterfield, New South Wales, 1887.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove border; Boilerplate do not create a new image as it is not needed.… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
:{{done}} ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:09, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:44, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Baumkuchen
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:10, 25 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Kürtősh Kalách family.jpg
File:Kürtősh Kalách family (cropped).jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove promotional background and trim to photos only… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 22:43, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 06:07, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:10, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Charles de Gaulle
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:18, 25 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:4 Carlton Gardens London plaque commemorating the headquarters of Charles de Gaulle.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please rotate slightly to straight… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:14, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 17:04, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks, {{u|PawełMM}} can you snug up the edges a bit, as it now shows the new tilt?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:13, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
::{{ping|Kintetsubuffalo}} Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 18:13, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Vehicle registration plates of Massachusetts '''Boilerplate''' ''do not create a new image as it is not needed''.
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Massachusetts Licence Plate 1913.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Nebraska 1975 license plate sticker on 1972 license plate.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Rhode Island 2003 Ocean State license plate 512.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Utah 1948 license plate.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1960 Washington Vehicle License Plate.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1942 Wisconsin license plate.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:PUERTO RICO 1970-1973 license plate - Flickr - woody1778a.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Ontario 1982 vanity licence plate WADE C1.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1930 Newfoundland and Labrador license plate 1559.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1934 NL passenger issue 3306.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1935 Newfoundland and Labrador license plate 3057.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1936 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 4370.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1937 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 2707.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1938 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 3-724.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1939 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 2-526.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1946 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 4-566.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1947 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 1-531.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1948 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 1-843.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1949 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 7-989.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1951 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 16-212.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1953 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 1-117.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1957 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 2-500.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1958 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 3-368.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1959 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 5-646.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1965 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 29-797.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1967 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 47-506.jpg|should be 1:2 ratio
{{Tick}}
File:1968 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 5-246.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1970 Newfoundland license plate with 1971 & 1972 stickers- Number 86-579.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1973 newfoundland license plate 37-026.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:1976 Newfoundland passenger license plate - Number 226-452.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland and Labrador 1982 license plate - ADJ-921.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2010 license plate - AWE 166.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2002 license plate - HBC-399.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2001 license plate - HDB 251.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2017 license plate - HFA-566.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2010 license plate - HGB 557.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2018 license plate - HMD-926.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Newfoundland & Labrador 2017 license plate - JEJ 371.jpg|{{Tick}}
File:Nunavut 2014 too277.png|{{Tick}}
;Article(s):
: Vehicle registration plates of Massachusetts
;Request:
: please fix perspective and trim to plate … Boilerplate do not create a new image as it is not needed.-- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:48, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 14:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
:Fantastic! Thanks for your hard work!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
The Way You Look Tonight
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)}}
{{GLNF|The Way You Look Tonight (The Lettermen) label.jpg}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please rotate to straight… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 08:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Green Corn Ceremony
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Green Corn Dance - Minatarrees C16946.jpg
File:Green Corn Ceremony - Minatarrees.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please create new image, trimmed to oval, named File:Green Corn Ceremony - Minatarrees… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:06, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:37, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Your advice is requested at Talk:Trypophobia
{{tl|resolved}}
File:Nelumbo Nucifera fruit - botanic garden Adelaide.jpg seedheads elicit feelings of discomfort or repulsion in some people.]]
Trypophobia is a rare phobia in which an image of a pattern of holes can elicit strong feelings of discomfort or repulsion in some people. The image you see here is an example. There is an Rfc going on currently at Talk:Trypophobia, about whether to keep the image at the top of the article, collapse it, or move it down, where presumably phobic individuals would be less likely to see it.
I see a possibly better alternative, but I don't know if it's a reasonable one, technically speaking, and I need your help and advice. I would like to propose a 5-phase progressive gif based on the lotus image, where the disturbing part within the circle (or perhaps the whole image) starts off quite blurry, sufficiently to prevent the distress in those who are phobic, and then progressively sharpens after 3- or 5-second intervals, giving the phobic individual sufficient time to bail out before the distressing effect becomes acute. (We have at least two individuals on board at the discussion who have the phobia and could be queried about how blurry is blurry enough to start. For non-phobes, the caption ideally would have a link which would jump to the fully-sharp image.)
My first question is, would it be possible to create a progressively sharpening gif based on this image? (I'm not asking for it yet, and it would be a waste of time to create one, if the consensus of the Rfc doesn't go in that direction.) Secondly, could you go to the Rfc and comment about whether this sort of image would be possible, and if so, how to request it?
There is already a long discussion going on about the image placement problem. The best place to comment on this would be at the Rfc discussion location here. (Other links:
Rfc discussion.) Any advice you could offer on the feasibility of a progressive gif of this nature would be appreciated; feedback requested --> here. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
File:Nelumbo Nucifera fruit - botanic garden Adelaide (trypophobia animation).gif
{{clear}}
{{ping|Mathglot}} Animation proposal in gif format. PawełMM (talk) 09:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
:Wow, PawełMM, that's awesome! I'll link to the image from the discussion there. (P.S. I meant awesome in its original sense, not its newer, slangy sense, but actually both apply; thanks again!) Mathglot (talk) 09:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Australian Film Commission '''Boilerplate''' ''do not create a new image as it is not needed''.
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:15, 28 October 2018 (UTC)}}
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please trim to logo Boilerplate do not create a new image as it is not needed.… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:39, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 02:56, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:15, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Waumegesako Council '''Boilerplate''' ''do not create a new image as it is not needed''.
{{tl|resolved|Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)}}
File:Neckerchief slide from historical Waumegesako Council.jpg
;Article(s):
;Request:
: please remove background and trim to object Boilerplate do not create a new image as it is not needed.… -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:58, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 09:03, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Request: Job de Ruiter
Tweede Kamer bespreekt begroting Buitenlandse Zaken minister De Ruiter van Just, Bestanddeelnr 930-1137.jpg|Job de Ruiter
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove scratches, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 05:54, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
: Great. Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 08:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}
Request: Tony Miles
IBM-schaaktoernooi, 7e ronde Miles (l) tegen Van Wijgerden, Bestanddeelnr 929-2564.jpg|Miles vs. Van Wijgerden
;Article(s):
;Request:
: Please remove or soften black stains, if possible. Vysotsky (talk) 21:25, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
;Graphist opinion(s):
{{Done}} PawełMM (talk) 06:50, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
: Nice job. Thanks! Vysotsky (talk) 08:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC) {{tl|resolved}}