Wikipedia:Help desk#Category:Altaic multilingual support templates seems inappropriate

Hi. Is there a way to report an article which I suspect has been completely rewritten using an LLM? aps (talk) 03:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:AaronPassion: Yes (sadly), there is a maintenance template {{tl|AI-generated}} which will categorise the article in :Category:Articles containing suspected AI-generated texts, and a series of user warning templates starting at {{tl|Uw-ai1}}. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 05:01, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I HAVE JUST RE-POSTED THIS DISCUSSION AS IT EXPIRED BEFORE I HAD A CHANGE TO WRITE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE PREVIOUSLY [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Copyright&diff=prev&oldid=1025623750]: I am very unsure about how to use Wiki-Commons. I am just about to do some major editing of a Wikipedia article about a board game, e.g., :en:Brass (board game) (Wikipedia 'free link'). I screen-shot the artwork of the game's title on the computer game version, available through Steam. The header is the word "Brass" on a brass plaque. The artwork is clearly not my own work, and I am not sure whether it is the game's logo, as it is the game's title. In addition, since it is a graphic of the game, I assume that the person in control of illustrating the computer version, Magdalena Mudlaff, or the illustrator of the original board game, Peter Dennis, have a copyright over such a graphic. How would I go about working out whether I can use the graphic or getting permission? I seem to see other board games with a complete picture of the game's box cover, including the board game logo, but I am just not sure how they managed to do that. Are such illustrations in the public domain, and, if not, how do they become so? Can you advise me? Thanks in advance for the time taken to lend your assistance.SMargan ^{{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}} 22:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

THIS WAS THE RESPONSE [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Copyright&action=edit&oldid=1025668507]:

: {{ping|SMargan}} There are two separate issues here:

:# Can you upload these materials to Commons? Without seeing the images in question I can't say anything definitive, but it is very unlikely anything related to a game created in recent decades is in the public domain, unless (for example) the logo is too simple to copyright and you want to use that, or the game simply reuses images whose copyright has expired. Otherwise, you'd need the owners of the copyright to release these materials under a free license, and very few owners of commercially valuable materials are likely to do such a thing. If you want a detailed explanation of the issues involved in uploading materials like this to Commons, see Commons:Uploading works by a third party.

:# Failing that, can you upload these as non-free materials on the English-language Wikipedia without involving Commons? :en:Wikipedia:Non-free content allows for allowing certain non-free content (such as logos) directly to en-wiki.

- Jmabel ! ^talk 04:23, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::: THIS IS MY LATEST AND FRESH RESPONSE Jmabel ! ^talk {{ping|Jmabel}} The logo is the word "Brass" on a brass plague background, as the logo of the 2008 board game "Brass". It is difficult to say whether this would be copyrighted as whilst the game was republished as "Brass - Lancashire" (2018) with a different logo, and the logo is pretty generic, the game was pretty popular and might be copyrighted. I have tried to upload the logo via the first method, but to no available, as I do not think this fits within the allowable criteria.

:::I am just a little unsure how to proceed with the second method. The link you gave, i.e. :en:Wikipedia:Non-free content does not seem to show how to do it, in a format I can understand. Is there a specific part of the page I was meant to be looking at. Can you advise? Is there a link to a "non-free content" uploading area? Thanks in advance for your time responding to this further query of mine.SMargan ^talk 08:02, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::::SMargan, you should assume that any image you find or copy is conventionally copyright ("all rights reserved") unless you have, and can describe, very clear evidence to the contrary. No image that's conventionally copyright may be uploaded to Commons. Right now, as I type this response, I see within the same browser window various links provided to me by Wikipedia. One of them is "Upload file". Clicking this is how I'd start the process of uploading a file that would need, and that I'd provide, a "fair use" rationale for use within this or that article. (Though actually the process would start earlier, as I'd write and rewrite the "fair use" rationale, ready to paste it in on demand, use GIMP to reduce the size of the image, etc.) -- Hoary ^talk 12:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Wikipedia:Non-free content explains the policy. Template:Non-free use rationale is the template you will need to put on the file page for each non-free image (or, as appropriate, you can use a more specialized template like Template:Non-free use rationale logo). - Jmabel | ^Talk 16:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::::@Jmabel | ^Talk - Yes, the Template:Non-free use rationale template will be useful when I have uploaded my tiff file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia. Apologies for not being clear enough. Please send me the link for upload a image file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia.SMargan (talk) 04:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|SMargan}}, I find it odd that an article on Brass includes a long list of non-notable awards, but makes no mention of its complicated and confusing "Birkenhead" rule. Maproom ^talk 13:16, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:: {{ping|Maproom}} does that somehow have bearing on the question of using these images? If so, would you spell out the connection? and if not, this belongs on the talk page of the article, not here. - Jmabel | ^Talk 16:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::::@Jmabel | ^Talk & Maproom ^talk - I was only responding to the issue Maproom ^(talk) raised. I think the real issue behind this discussion thread is how to upload a file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia. Please send me the link for upload a image file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia.SMargan ^talk 04:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::I've struck my off-topic comment above. Maproom ^talk 06:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::@Jmabel | ^Talk & Maproom ^talk - The article currently has a lot of deficiencies. I am doing a major re-write. Part of that major edit was going to be the addition of a logo for the game. However, Jmabel | ^Talk is correct, that issue is something best left to the Wikipedia article talk section. I have started a discussion thread about that issue there [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brass_(board_game)]. Now, back to the issue at hand, I have the policies on "non-free images", i.e. Template:Non-free use rationale and :en:Wikipedia:Non-free content, but now I need to know how I actually upload a file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia. Please send me the link for uploading an image file to the "non-free image" section of Wikipedia.SMargan (talk) 11:19, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::@SMargan In the menu on the left side of the screen you have the button "Upload file", which takes you to Wikipedia:File upload wizard. There you can choose to "Upload a non-free file", which uploads the file locally here on enwiki instead of Commons. It if complies with Wikipedia:Non-free content of course. Trim02 (talk) 12:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::: There is no "'non-free image' section of Wikipedia." You upload the image to Wikipedia (not Commons), and you use {{tl|Non-free use rationale}} (or a more specialized template) rather than {{tl|Information}}. Start at Wikipedia:File upload wizard and follow the directions. - Jmabel | Talk 16:21, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:Christopher Bullock (civil servant)

Reference numbers 49 and 50 are also newspaper reports - please can they be added to the newspaper report section at the bottom of the article. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

how to add pictures supporting activities in articles Chitra Sarwara Ambala (talk) 06:05, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Chitra Sarwara Ambala, I'm not sure what you mean by "pictures supporting activities", but see Help:Pictures. Images, in general, should illustrate article content, and more images is not necessarily better. It's easiest to use pics you find on [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page Commons]. The rule of thumb is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used on Wikipedia or Commons. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I am trying to write about tourism to the United States and I was wondering how'd I'd cite that. It's reliable as its an official US Governmental source and you can find the Excel file [https://www.trade.gov/i-94-arrivals-program here] under the title of: "I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present (Excel File)" and it does work when you open it. I'm also wondering if your allowed to cite Microsoft Excel files here on Wikipedia.

Sincerely, @Skim127 21:35, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Skim127. The format of a source is relatively unimportant. What's important is that it is published (so a random user can in principle get hold of a copy from some sort of public resource, eg a library) and that it be reliably published (from somebody with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking).

:I don't know if there is a citation template that will suit this, but the use of those is optional anyway. The important bits, beside the url (https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20%28COR%29_1.xlsx) are the author (though there presumably isn't one here), publisher, and date.

:However, there is a problem with this source, because it is "-Present", which means that it will presumably be changing regularly. A source which will change is problematic, because a reader in the future may look at it and find it no longer supports the information which it is being used to verify. So if you are going to use this resource, I would suggest using the most recent arhive of it on archive.org - https://web.archive.org/web/20250320162049/https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20(COR)_1.xlsx, which happens to be from 20 March this year.

:So unless there is a suitable template, I would write the reference) as something like

::'I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present' (Excel File), US Government International Trade Administration, [https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20%28COR%29_1.xlsx current link], [https://web.archive.org/web/20250320162049/https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20(COR)_1.xlsx archived on 2025-03-25]

:which displays in the reflist as 'I-94 Monthly International Visitor Arrivals, 2000-Present' (Excel File), US Government International Trade Administration, [https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20%28COR%29_1.xlsx current link], [https://web.archive.org/web/20250320162049/https://www.trade.gov//sites/default/files/2024-06/Monthly%20Arrivals%202000%20to%20Present%20%E2%80%93%20Country%20of%20Residence%20(COR)_1.xlsx archived on 2025-03-25]

:{{reflist-talk}} ColinFine (talk) 10:00, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

: Pai Forest

Reference help requested.

kindly fix this ref error. Thank you

Thanks, JogiAsad (talk) 02:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @JogiAsad. It's saying that you haven't given a title for the source. The title appears to be "STATE OF FORESTS IN SINDH AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS FLOWING OUT OF IT", so you can easily insert that in the template after |title= - though I recommend typing it in title case rather than all capitals. ColinFine (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @JogiAsad, I see you have added the nonexistent catergories :Category:Wildlife sanctuaries in Sindh and :Category:Forests of Sindh. According to WP:CATREDLINK these should be created or removed from the article. If the provincial categories would only have one or two members it is probably better to use national categories. TSventon (talk) 12:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Do you know where I can find suggestions for proper "split titles" for the "Musical style and influences of Linkin Park" as well as "Legacy of Linkin Park"? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:You could ask here or at a relevant wikiproject.

:"Cultural impact of" is a possibility for the second one. TSventon (talk) 15:23, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi - I created this account ages ago and just found out it is associated with an email address which has not existed for over a decade. How can I change my email address to my current one? Webster Forrest, London UK (talk) 16:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

:Preferences -> User profile -> Email options. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

On the Glomeridae article, the species list includes genera that are no longer accepted as distinct, independent genera, and have been relabeled as synonyms of other genera. For example, Corsikomeris has been redefined as a synonym of the genus Doderia. Should Corsikomeris thus be removed from the species list and Doderia added in its place? Nephila121 (talk) 02:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Nephila121, that seems like a useful update to make. CMD (talk) 09:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hi, @Nephila121. Either be WP:BOLD, or if you have any doubts, discuss it first at WP:TREE. ColinFine (talk) 09:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

If I found a non-free fair use image which actually is free/exempt from copyright, are there any other things I need to do other than changing the copyright templates? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|Thehistorianisaac}}. You need to provide convincing written evidence that the image is either in the public domain or freely licensed with terms that meet Wikipedia's standards. For example, a free license that restricts commercial re-use is not acceptable. Cullen328 (talk) 07:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Cullen328 Situation has sort of changed, turns out the photo I was referring to is completely incorrect anyways, my main question now is how do I request a non free fair use image be deleted for being unreliable? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 08:47, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Raise it at WP:FFD. CMD (talk) 09:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @Thehistorianisaac. If it had turned out that the image actually was free, it would be a good idea to transfer it to Commons. ColinFine (talk) 09:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

ref. number 5 - I added in a little quote and now the ref is in red. please fix. I cannot. Sorry and thanks Srbernadette (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Srbernadette Fixed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Taylor_%28Yorkshire_cricketer%29&diff=1292729066&oldid=1292727068 in this edit]. There was a tab character in the quote rather than a space and although the error message was clear it was a little difficult to spot. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Please have a look at {{diff|Ali Khan Mahmudabad|1292683280|1292005827.|the Edit summary}}.

Is there anything that should be carried out by WP admins or so? (Pardon me my bad English, i am de-N, en-2) --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 14:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Regardless of 'India Republic law', the IP needs to be blocked per Wikipedia:No legal threats. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::Done. 331dot (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:I did reverted the edit made by the IP. Anatole-berthe (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

So, there's these, that both just redirect to a list of characters:

1. Saru (Star Trek)
2. Saru (Star Trek: Discovery)

I have no idea how it never got made before as a proper article, but it took about a minute of digging to gather enough for GNG alone--so I'm gonna knock it out. But, since it exists like that, should I draft in my user space here?

• User:Very Polite Person/draft/Saru (Star Trek)

Or just pick the more appropriate of the two and just build out directly? I want my editing history to be present in the final Article space page for everyone's tracking, not in some lost deleted draft. What do? I don't think I've moved a multiple-times edited Redirect into an article before. -- Very Polite Person (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Disregard, thanks anyway, I'm just going to directly build out the Discovery version one. -- Very Polite Person (talk) 15:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

How long does an RFC usually last? Bc this is been here since 4+ months talk:Malabar Muslims#Request for comment on generalizing the origin of Mappilas? Hionsa (talk) 17:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I recently created the page for the Global Student Forum. While creating the page, the cite source function stopped working, and it seemed like the only way to avoid losing my progress was to publish it unfinished and make subsequent edits to the page, which put it at risk of being swarmed by other users in its unfinished state. Sure enough, a user named Sumanuil put a banner on it alleging that the page contains promotional content. I cited sources for factual claims, tried to write in a neutral tone, and am not affiliated with the organization. I edited the text to remove what could be misconstrued as promotional, but the banner has remained. I posted a request for clarification on Sumanuil's Talk page, but Sumanuil removed this without providing any clarification.

I have been a Wikipedian for over ten years. The Wikipedia I have come to know is a toxic, insular group that is hostile to new and less experienced users. On multiple occasions, I have seen knowledge erased on minute technicalities that could have easily been ameliorated with dialogue and collaboration. Please do not let the Global Student Forum page be another example to further reinforce what I have reluctantly perceived. You can see the timestamps on the Global Student Forum page to see the time I put into creating it and researching the sources. I want to be compliant. I just need clarification and assistance. For historical purposes (talk) 18:05, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:The requirement that Wikipedia articles be primarily based around what independent sources have to say on the subject, rather than citations to the subject's own website etc, isn't a 'minute technicality'. In my opinion, the 'promotional' banner is still justified. As for difficulties with editing, you have the option of using your sandbox, which should ensure you can publish the article only when you consider it complete. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @For historical purposes.

:Several portions of the article are based on the GSF's own publications.

:{{HD/WINI}}

:The presence of text that is clearly what the subject wants to say about itself is what makes it promotional.

:If you have been around for ten years, I would expect you to know that the way disagreements get resolved is by engaging with the other parties, not by appealing for support in another forum. Please see WP:DR. ColinFine (talk) 18:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::Though I agree with everything said above and that the tag should stay, I would like to note that For historical purposes did ask Sumanuil on their talk page, which was promptly reverted. I can see why the message may be interpreted as perhaps vandal spam, but I think the revert was uncivil and unjustified on Sumanuil's part. GoldRomean (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::The article is entirely promotional, I have removed chunks of promotional text supoported only by primary sources, but it appears that there is nothing salveagable, Wikipedia articles are based on what reliable independent sources have reported on a topic NOT what the topics website says! Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

This is for people that do high schools. I am trying to update all of the historical data GHSA championships for hs in GA. Should I include the level they competed at (2A, 3A, etc.)? BabaYagaUSA (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2025 (UTC)