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What dictates acceptable usage of profanity on Wikipedia? As an example, would the word "motherf---ing" be acceptable as a 13-letter word on the list of isograms? It is indeed a legitimate inflection of a word defined by Merriam-webster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.86.15 (talk) 00:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:Might be wise to wait for a second or third opinion here, but I would think that it would be legitimate. Wikipedia is not censored. :) CharlieEchoTango (talk) 01:02, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:My opinion is that we shouldn't avoid profanity where it is needed, but to litter it into articles where it isn't obviously needed starts to look like we're being intentionally provocative. So, I wouldn't censor a direct quote where someone uses the word motherfucking. It would be perfectly OK in the article Seven dirty words, or other applications where it is needed. However, if we have a choice between otherwise identical word choices, and there is literally no advantage to use the profanity (for example, if using another word doesn't substantially change the meaning in any real way) then I would make the editorial decision not to use it. --Jayron32 01:21, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

::I guess the question is : is the isogram list intended to be exhaustive, as its number of entries suggests, or to only provide some examples, as its header title suggest? If the former, I would think that it should be included for the sake of having a complete and comprehensive list. If the latter, then I would agree that we should not use it where can be avoided. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 01:33, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:::I am fairly certain, per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, that a list of that nature is not meant to be exhaustive; the English language likely contains thousands of such words (even of 10 letters or more) and, as such, I can't see where yet another example helps an article which has too many as it is. If we have to limit ourselves to a representative list, there's no need to include "motherfucking" when any of the other dozen or so examples there demonstrates the phenomenon just fine. --Jayron32 01:53, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

::::Looking at [http://www.morewords.com/unique-letters/ this], I would have to agree that an an exhaustive list for 10 letter isograms is not possible, however all 13-letter ones could be listed (I count 14 entries, including motherfudging). But yes, if the list is kept non-exhaustive, I agree with you there is no need to add the word. Best regards, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 02:05, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:::::Yup, seems like if the section is just supposed to be examples, then I guess it's not really needed. That does bring up the point of why the section is so long, or why there even need to be examples that are longer than 3 or 4 letters, since that is enough to get the point across. Longer words might be considered noteworthy or as interesting pieces of trivia, but that same logic might justify the inclusion of curses. But, whatever. I just saw that word wasn't there, and wondered what the reason would be for not having it. Thanks for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.86.15 (talk) 23:02, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

There is a limited reference to A Lincoln High School participation in SING! I have a 1960 program from one of the 2 I participated in. How can I upload it to document the entry? Dennisnovak (talk) 04:11, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:You may not upload a copyright document to Wikipedia. And an unpublished program is probably not a reliable source anyway. (I have doubts as to whether some of the other schools listed in SING! are adequately referenced). --ColinFine (talk) 15:45, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

A few days ago I asked about finding a list of articles that are rated both "Stub" and "High Importance".

Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index uses a bot that tracks the count of such pages. I was pointed towards [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=High-importance_articles&basedeep=3&mode=ss&size=512&stubop=or&links=4&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en Cat Scan] as a tool that could do the job for me. However, I haven't been able to make it work. Although the table I referenced shows there are such articles, Cat Scan returns no results. Any advice?

Drkarger (talk) 05:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:I've managed to get a few of them. I used [http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php this] page, depth = 3, Categories = {{code|Stub categories}} and {{code|High-importance articles}} (they need to be on separate lines), checked the box labelled "Talk" below "(Article)", and otherwise used default settings. That took 564 seconds. You could probably get more results by increasing the depth, but the query may take much, much longer.

{{collapse top|High-importance stubs}}

• Title
• Horse mill
• Jockey
• The Arts Centre (Melbourne)
• National Opera and Ballet Sofia
• Virgilijus Noreika
• Paris Opera Ballet
• Polo at the Summer Olympics
• Opera Cleveland
• Violeta Urmana
• Jan Kiepura
• Maria Sokil
• National Opera and Ballet
• Lithuanian National Opera and Ballet Theatre
• Horseracing in New Zealand

{{collapse bottom}}

:Post script: based on the title of this thread (as opposed to your first sentence), I think you actually wanted {{code|Top-importance articles}}, not {{code|High-importance articles}}. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 08:23, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

::Hmmm, I just ran it for {{code|Top-importance articles}} at depth 5, and only got four results: Serer language, Fandène, Somb, and Rémi Jegaan Dioh. That only took 520 seconds. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 09:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

:::Thanks; this gives me a starting point. Drkarger (talk) 05:17, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

PEOBLEM: OPTIC NERVE DAMAGED IN LEFT EYE AND VISION LOST 3 YEARS BACK .. OPTIC NERVE IN RIGHT EYE WEAKENED AND VISION IS ONLY

5 PERCENT..DIABITIC PATIENT SINCE 15 YEARS AND ON INSULIN DAILY

40 UNITS

NAME ;MANTHA SURYA PRAHA AGE:60 YEARS PLACE HYDERABAD/ INDIA MOBILE NO.

IN TH YEAR 2008 WHILE CROSSING THE ROAD FELL ON FACE RESULT IN INJURY TO

LEFT EYE AND LOST TOTAL VISION IN LEFT EYE DUE TO HIGH PRESSURE IN THE EYE IN THE YEAR 2010 UNDERWENT OPERATION IN LVPRASAD EYE INSTITUTE HYDERABAD DUE TO WATER IN RETINA OF RIFHT EYE AND AFTER OPEARATION OF CATARACT ETC. IT WASINFORMED THATTHE OPTIC NERVE OF RIGHT EYE ALSO WEAKENED AND AT PRESENT THE VISION IS NEARLY 5 TO 10 PECRENT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nakrekanti (talk • contribs) 07:15, 20 November 2011‎ (UTC)

:You are at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Wikipedia cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer, and contact an appropriate medical professional. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 07:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I tried to insert a piece of HTML code (a script to display a google docs created chart) into a page I was editing but it does not work. The script displays as simple text, rather than function properly to display the chart I created in google docs.

Any ideas as to how to insert this script and make it display properly?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Yalcinarsan (talk • contribs) 08:20, 20 November 2011‎ (UTC)

:See Help:HTML in wikitext for the HTML elements that are permitted in wikicode.