Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2025 January 24#Script to change links

I have finished an article in my sandbox about a general but the name he most commonly goes by is already an disambiguation article. Can I change the name of the disambiguation article and make a new one about the general? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TedKekmeister (talk • contribs) 18:19, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:Only if you can convincingly argue that your general is the WP:DAB#Primary topic for the name. Otherwise you should create a disambiguated name (eg "Zahid (Syrian general)") and add the article to the DAB page.

:I note that all but one of your citations are to Twitter. Social media is not usually regarded as reliable, so the draft does not at present establish notability. See WP:TWITTER ColinFine (talk) 18:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for the help. The reason many of the links are from twitter is because that is where the sources are translated. I can also get some of the original sources but then they would be untranslated. TedKekmeister (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:::Sources does not have to be in English. You should cite the original sources directly, anyone who wish to verify them can use Google Translate to read the sources for themselves. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 23:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you as well for your help. The translating part is a bit hard due to the fact that the information comes from videos without subtitles. Nonetheless I changed the sources I could if I found the original publicised by the group themselves. TedKekmeister (talk) 18:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

This page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2Rivers has been reviewed and is over 90 days old but is not appearing in google search results? Do you know why this is?

I also wanted to flag that a duplicate page has also been created: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2Rivers_Group

It looks like whoever made it has overwritten an existing page about a totally different subject. Trader989 (talk) 18:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Trader989. As far as I can see, 2Rivers has been reeased to allow search engines; but Wikipedia has no control over what Google or other search engines do, or when they index.

:2Rivers Group does indeed appear to be a duplicate. You're right that the content replaced something else, but it was the same editor, @Articute who created the article shortly before (and filled it with an out-of-context results table for something) and then replaced it with a version of the present content; so it has not been hijacked.

:I suggest the two of you work together to merge the two articles. ColinFine (talk) 19:01, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

I'd like to request assistance in determining the copyright status of the following image I'd like to use in articles about nativism in United States politics and anti-immigration sentiment. [https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/anti-immigrant-flyers-spread-around-new-haven-s-20051657.php 1] The following newspaper lists "The City of New Haven" as contributing it, which makes me think it is possibly eligible for use as it is released by a governmental agency. As I am not versed in Wikipedia copyright law, I am requesting assistance from more experienced editors in this pursuit. BootsED (talk) 19:31, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|BootsED}} Wikipedia:Public domain#United States government works say that works produced by the federal government are public domain, but works produced by other levels of government may not be. If you have questions about media copyright the best place is Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. TSventon (talk) 19:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you! I will ask over there. BootsED (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

16 years here, never used scripts to edit. Can you please tell me what I can use to quickly change links from Joan, Duchess of Brittany to Joan of Penthièvre? The former can refer to six women and should be a disambiguation page, but currently redirects to Joan of Penthièvre. I would be very grateful! Surtsicna (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:@Surtsicna If you want to ask someone else to do it, WP:AWBTASKS is the place. If you want to do it yourself, read WP:AWB. Ultraodan (talk) 02:36, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

:Be sure to verify that each of the linking articles actually means that specific one of the six:) I've made that sort of mistake before. DMacks (talk) 08:39, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

:WP:DISAMASSIST is a useful script here as well if you convert the former to a disambiguation page first. If you don't get to fixing all the links yourself and there's 30 or more left, a bot will notify other editors. Dodges the need to ask for AWB. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 10:46, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks, everyone! I asked at WP:AWBTASKS and learned to use this fab thingy. Surtsicna (talk) 10:55, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, for the article Punjabi Suba movement, the article's name was changed to Punjabi province movement and the former title was made as a new redirect to the new title. After consensus was reached on the article's talkpage to return to the former name ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Punjabi_province_movement#Requested_move_24_January_2025]), I attempted to revert to the former name but cannot because the former title is now used as a redirect. How do I return the article to the former title correctly? Please advise. MaplesyrupSushi (talk) 19:52, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:You can request the move at WP:RM. ColinFine (talk) 20:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi. I'm interested in adding the following image, [https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/66868f8c8d6a5779ab66cb8b/f15b484f-2c93-4323-9965-84cc04025e26/Helene+Spilling.jpg?format=2500w], to Helene Spilling's English Wiki article. For a while, I've attempted to add any image of her to the article, but have had many obstacles in the process due to either having difficulty in obtaining permission or not knowing the licence they fall under. Recently, I've found the image mentioned above, from [https://www.ekulturskolen.no/helenespilling this] website. However, they haven't listed any mention of copyright, or who the author of the image is. Naturally, it has made me wonder if perhaps this image is easier to use than the previous instances? Thanks in advance. 1ykke1il (talk) 20:14, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:With a modern image, if you cannot identify the copyright, you cannot use the image. Copyright status cannot be assumed. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

::331dot do you mean a modern image of a living person? Wikipedia has Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria but the No free equivalent clause means that we generally cannot use copyright images of living people as a free image could be produced in the future. TSventon (talk) 20:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:::I was trying to differentiate between antique images and modern images. But you are correct, of course. :) 331dot (talk) 20:43, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

::::{{u|1ykke1il}}, modern copyright law does not require a copyright notice or copyright registration. An image is copyrighted automatically the moment that it is published. In order to use such an image of a living person on Wikipedia, you must furnish written evidence that the image is either freely licensed in a way acceptable to Wikipedia, or is in the public domain. Our non-free content policy does not permit non-free images of living people. Cullen328 (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:{{to|1ykke1il}} As Cullen328 stated, the presence or absence of any kind of copyright notice makes no difference in "today's world" (for the details see Berne Convention). I note that Helene Spilling appears married to Martin Ødegaard who is a "big-shot" pro athlete and likely has a personal publicist and/or talent agent. If you wish you could try to contact one of the those persons and request that they release (or convey the request to someone who can) an image of Spilling, or the two of them together, under a free license: consult Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for details. --Slowking Man (talk) 00:25, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm trying to tidy up this bibliography. As a first step, I want to convert the entries to use a suitable CS2 template rather than plain text, into which missing details can later be inserted.

As you can see, most entries include a location but no publisher. If I try to use {{tl|cite}} or {{tl|citation}}, I get an error message like location no publisher. This happens whether I leave the |publisher= parameter empty or omit it altogether.

Is there a template I can use that will accept this combination? It needs also to accept the |trans-title= parameter, so I can add translations of the titles.

Alternatively, is there a way to suppress the errors?

Musiconeologist (talk) 22:12, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:Remember that WP:CITEVAR applies. You should not be converting non-templated citation style to templated style without you first obtain consensus to do so at the article's talk page.

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:{{tlx|citation}} and {{tlx|cite}} are exactly the same thing; {{tld|cite}} is merely a redirect to {{tld|citation}}.

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:Assuming that you can gain consensus, the {{color|#3a3|CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)}} message is not an error message. The parenthetical 'link' at the end of the message will take you to the appropriate category page where there is some discussion about what caused cs1|2 to emit the message.

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 01:27, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

::All I've managed to get at the talk page so far when I've posted about the bibliography is three weeks of complete silence, and I'm the only person apart from a bot who's ever posted there, so it'll be interesting to see how that goes. I suspect I'll be trying to get consensus from zero people. The section seems to have been pasted untranslated from the Norwegian article (comments about the entries still in Norwegian, side and band for page and volume, etc.). I think whoever translated the article itself either forgot about the bibliography, or decided they didn't fancy formatting references on another language's Wikipedia. What I found was an English article with an entirely Norwegian section in it.{{pb}}It's certainly less work to keep them as plain text, though.{{pb}}Thanks for clarifying about the template message—I hadn't realised it's invisible to the reader. That's useful to know, whether or not I end up using the template. It looks as though |Publisher=none is probably what I need if I do.{{pb}}BTW the documentation for the two templates seemed to say that one defaults to CS1 and the other to CS2, hence my trying both. Musiconeologist (talk) 02:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

:::Follow the {{tlx|cite}} link and you end up at {{tlx|citation}}; two names for one template.

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:::{{tq|the documentation for the two templates seemed to say that one defaults to CS1 and the other to CS2}} What documentation? Where?

:::—Trappist the monk (talk) 03:50, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

::::At this point I'm not sure—I tried a variety of wp: and help: and template: searches while I was experimenting with the format then trying to find what the problem was. It was on a page that came up in one of the searches, and that my browser history and app history aren't helping me track down now. Sorry that's not much help. I can try to let you know if I find it again, though. Musiconeologist (talk) 04:37, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm wondering if there's a more efficient way to display a light grey bottom border for each row in this table, without having to specify "border-bottom: 1px solid lightgrey" for every single cell in the table. Similarly, I'd also like to align text for the three columns on the right without having to specify a text-align for every single cell in those columns, if that's possible. — AFC Vixen 🦊 23:09, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|AFC Vixen}} {{tl|Table alignment}} can make the alignment by starting with:

{{Table alignment}}

{| class="col2right col3center col4left"

:Tables with repetitive code are sometimes made with a Help:Table#Row template. The repeated code will still be in the template-expanded wikitext and HTML but editors don't see it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for your advice! — AFC Vixen 🦊 01:11, 25 January 2025 (UTC)