Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-12-23/Andre Agassi

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|comment=Closing due to inactivity. bobrayner (talk) 10:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

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=Request details=

==Where is the dispute?==

==Who is involved?==

Just a list of the users involved. For example:

==What is the dispute?==

The dispute is whether Andre Agassi is an Iranian-American or just an American. I think the talk page is explanatory. I do not wish to engage in back and forth edit reverts as that is counterproductive. I believe that I provided adequate sources that shows Andre Agassi as a notable Iranian-American. He is recognized as such, having an Iranian father (of Assyrian and Armenian descent - he is still Iranian). I would like to know Wikipedia's policy regarding biographies because it gets confusing. I understand the need to prove notability in regards to religion, but not ethnicity. What is the difference between Andre Agassi, Catherine Bell ; who is half Iranian and claims being Iranian-American; Christiane Amanpour; who is a British-born Iranian-American (naturalized); and Pierre Omidyar, another Iranian-American? The category Americans of Iranian descent has been on Agassi's page for a long time. Other Iranian-Americans have that category on their page, yet Agassi does and he cannot be "Iranian-American"? Why are some pages on Wikipedia held to a different standard? I am confused. All of these people are recognized as Iranian-American by newspapers and the Iranian community (not to mention the National Iranian American Council. I would like help on this issue to help me in editing in the future. Thank you.

==What would you like to change about this?==

I have stated above where I am having trouble. If it turns out we need arbitration, then that is fine. I just want to make sure I am following Wikipedia policy regarding biography pages. There seems to be a lot of confusion as to what constitutes "notable" (not speaking about religion here; I understand that issue). The other user has not made clear enough to me why edits were reverted. He or she has to explained the difference between the above named Iranian-Americans who are all listed as Iranian-American.

==How do you think we can help?==

I would like to know if I am doing anything wrong, or if my sources are considered invalid by Wikipedia standards. I would also like to ask someone for advice regarding what steps I can take if mediation doesn't work. I would like to follow proper procedure. Thank you in advance.

=Mediator notes=

Generally, it's best to avoid identity markers if that person does not strongly identify with that aspect of their self. It could be regarded as somewhat presumptuous on a BLP. Best to stick with as generic a descriptor as possible. I'd like to hear this argued, though. Xavexgoem (talk) 07:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

=Administrative notes=

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LTC b2412 Troops Talk 09:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

=Discussion=