Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ottawa

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Old portal I created that is no longer maintained and with the fact most portals are not seen by the majority of readers (60 percent drop in views since 2012) really only need the main country portal.....that is being fixed for mobile views. Moxy 🍁 20:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per the nom. This portal has been abandoned for over nine years, save for two DYK's added in 2010 and a few panoramas nearly as long ago, and was never completed, which is why its sub-pages are littered with red links to never added materials. The biography on Barbara Ann Scott, last edited in 2013, has failed to reflect her 2012 death for nearly seven years.

:The portal clearly fails WP:POG's requirement that portals should be about subjects broad enough to attract large numbers of maintainers and readers. This portal has had nearly a decade of no maintainers and it had a very low 11 views [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2019-01-01&end=2019-06-30&pages=Portal:Ottawa per day] from January 1 to June 30 2019 (despite the head article Ottawa having 2634 views [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2019-01-01&end=2019-06-30&pages=Ottawa per day] in the same period.) Portals stand or fall on their merits in the now, not what could someday hypothetically happen with them, and this one falls flat. I oppose re-creation, as nearly a decade of hard evidence shows Ottawa is not a broad enough topic to attract readers or maintainers. Newshunter12 (talk) 05:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• Delete as per nominator/originator and User:Newshunter12. There is no short-term reason to expect that a re-creation of this portal will address the problems. Any proposed re-creation of this portal using a more modern design, and taking into account the failures of many portals, can go to Deletion Review. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
• Delete per nominator and per @Newshunter12. This is yet another a long-abandoned mini-portal. I checked the sub-pages, and verified the abandonment. Note that Portal:Ottawa/Selected biography/5 is about Barbara Ann Scott, who died in 2012 ... but seven years later the portal considers her still alive.

:WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". This has attracted only trivially small numbers of readers, and no maintainers.

:We should stop luring readers away from well-maintained articles to abandoned portals which serve skimpy sets of outdated info to the readers.

:I also oppose recreation. We have a decade's evidence that editors don't want to maintain this one. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:17, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

• Delete cities don't need portals.Catfurball (talk) 23:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
• Note to closing admin. If you close this as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:Ontario), without creating duplicate entries. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:39, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

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