Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 November 6

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Skier Dude}} AnomieBOT⚡ 03:03, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:Pastordon.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Pastordon.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3APastordon.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Pastordon.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3APastordon.jpg}} logs]).

• An IP posted on this page: "Whoever posted this picture of Pastor should know that if he had lived to see this he would have been absolutely horrified. He would not approve of his photo being displayed in such a manner." In fact, I agree this appears to be a professional photo, and the uploader hasn't given any indication of why/how s/he is the owner of the copyright other than just stating GFDL-self. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 01:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:FairbanksMarker01.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:FairbanksMarker01.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3AFairbanksMarker01.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:FairbanksMarker01.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AFairbanksMarker01.JPG}} logs]).

• Technically a 3D artwork, as is not just text. It's post 1978 when U.S. copyright law changed.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 01:39, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

• I took this photograph myself, and released it under SA 3.0... - Adolphus79 (talk) 15:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

::I'm not disputing the photo - you cannot take a photo of a copyrighted artwork and gain the copyright.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

:::By that rational, how do we have photographs of any other statue, artwork, or other public displays on this website? I am not claiming copyright of the marker itself, only the photograph of the marker. Please explain how to photograph the marker, and upload it... - Adolphus79 (talk) 19:08, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

::::If depends where the statue is and when it was erected. A lot of countries (mine included) let you take pictures of anything in a "public place" without any problems - it's called Freedom of panorama. Sadly the USA decided not to do that, it only applies to buildings, not sculptures/monuments/memorials. If erected pre-1978 (when US copyright laws starting changing) then it's probably OK, otherwise the creator of the sculpture has the copyright, and to show here, one has to get permission from him/her. There is more info about how the US copyright acts affect 3D artworks at :commons:Freedom_of_panorama#United_States.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

:Wow, I didn't even know about that... that's just bullshit (not directed at you, but my own government)... My only concern is the number of images of historical markers, etc. that are up here on Wikipedia, and the loss of such documentation... I guess I am out of this discussion, and will leave it up to those that are better informed on the subject to decide... - Adolphus79 (talk) 14:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

::It doesn't seem to well publicised. To us it looks like the land of the free is the land of the lawyers... Have a holiday in the UK, you can take all the photos you want - even inside museums (they are still a public place), also Germany and Switzerland are good.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 00:21, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 01:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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• Technically a 3D artwork, as is not just text. It's post 1978 when U.S. copyright law changed.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 01:40, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

• I took this photograph myself, and released it under SA 3.0... - Adolphus79 (talk) 15:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

::I'm not disputing the photo - you cannot take a photo of a copyrighted artwork and gain the copyright.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:FaireyICAHope.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:FaireyICAHope.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3AFaireyICAHope.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:FaireyICAHope.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AFaireyICAHope.jpg}} logs]).

• Photo of artist is OK, but he is show with a large painting. There is no Freedom of panorama for artworks hanging in galleries/museums in the US.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 02:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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• Photo of 3D artwork, post US copyright Law change in 1978 (Dedicated 1992). No Freedom of panorama for US artworks, even in public places.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 02:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:León Arslanián.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:León Arslanián.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3ALe%C3%B3n+Arslani%C3%A1n.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:León Arslanián.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ALe%C3%B3n+Arslani%C3%A1n.jpg}} logs]).

• This image is the screenshot of the television program, which may have been published on either the newspaper or the television news. Unless I'm wrong, it did not appear to originate from the negative film. Gh87 (talk) 04:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as F1 by {{admin|Feydey}} AnomieBOT⚡ 14:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:FarhadMann Portrait.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:FarhadMann Portrait.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3AFarhadMann+Portrait.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:FarhadMann Portrait.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AFarhadMann+Portrait.jpg}} logs]).

• Two files of the same photo exist uploaded by the same user-this one and :File:FarhadPortrait.jpg, which has no rationale. In the non-free upload, the [http://farhadmann.com/#/downloads source link] is to the subject of the article's website. We hope (talk) 06:05, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:Chandra Shekhar Azad2623.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:Chandra Shekhar Azad2623.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3AChandra+Shekhar+Azad2623.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Chandra Shekhar Azad2623.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AChandra+Shekhar+Azad2623.JPG}} logs]).

• The upload text says "Since the person died in 1931 its image can be contributed in public domain." So the uploader is not the original photographer.

Perhaps {{tl|PD-India}} would apply here. But it would be nice with a little more info. MGA73 (talk) 10:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

:: I do agree with you. Since the person died in 1931 obviously this photo might have been published in India before 1951. I have replaced the old tag of licencing with new {{tl|PD-India}} on its file description page to which please see.

:: Thank you very much for guiding me.

::With regards I hope this image will not be deleted now

::Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma ^{(talk•Email)}

::Krantmlverma (talk) 16:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:Basavanna 3.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Basavanna 3.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3ABasavanna+3.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Basavanna 3.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABasavanna+3.jpg}} logs]).

• This looks like a photo of a painting... How old is it? Where is it located? Is it PD? I think we need more info to find out. MGA73 (talk) 15:06, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 01:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:Kitturu Rani Channamma.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:Kitturu Rani Channamma.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3AKitturu+Rani+Channamma.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Kitturu Rani Channamma.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AKitturu+Rani+Channamma.JPG}} logs]).

• There is a statue and a photo of a painting. There is no information about the painting. How old is it? Is it PD? MGA73 (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

:Even if it is free it's not a useful image because of the painting. Danger ^{High voltage!} 19:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:09, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:Taj.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Taj.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3ATaj.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Taj.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ATaj.jpg}} logs]).

• Source of new file is http://sprogmuseet.dk/enkeltsprog/kalasha-i-danmark/ and I see no notice there that the file is PD. Old file seems ok. MGA73 (talk) 21:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Fastily}} AnomieBOT⚡ 00:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

::File:Oxyuranus-scutellatus.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Oxyuranus-scutellatus.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+November+6%23File%3AOxyuranus-scutellatus.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Oxyuranus-scutellatus.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AOxyuranus-scutellatus.jpg}} logs]).

• Gnu license assigned by the uploader is not compatible with the license at the source. Also the license at the source states "provided that the content is not altered and the source is acknowledged" which is not compatible with Wikipedia. Eeekster (talk) 22:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

:The website where I got it from claims that it can be used as long as it's not altered in any way. Bastian (talk) 18:21, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

::That is precisely the problem. A license must allow alteration to be "free enough" for use on Wikipedia. Danger ^{High voltage!} 19:07, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

So basically it cannot be used? Bastian (talk) 16:58, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Skier Dude}} AnomieBOT⚡ 03:03, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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• Orphan file, photo of probably copyrighted toy figures.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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