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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Fresco, Orpheus and Euridyce,Edgar Britton,55 Marland, Colorado Springs.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Fresco, Orpheus and Euridyce,Edgar Britton,55 Marland, Colorado Springs.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AFresco%2C+Orpheus+and+Euridyce%2CEdgar+Britton%2C55+Marland%2C+Colorado+Springs.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Fresco, Orpheus and Euridyce,Edgar Britton,55 Marland, Colorado Springs.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AFresco%2C+Orpheus+and+Euridyce%2CEdgar+Britton%2C55+Marland%2C+Colorado+Springs.jpg}} logs]).

• The background seems to be a work of [http://www.davidcookfineart.com/1/Britton_Edgar.htm Edgar Britton] (1901-1982). Might be out of copyright for some reason, but it is not dated and there is no licence for it, so there is no way to tell. No freedom of panorama for artworks in the United States. Stefan2 (talk) 14:01, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Wmtc2.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Wmtc2.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AWmtc2.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Wmtc2.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AWmtc2.jpg}} logs]).

• Image is made of multiple photos without sources or licenses for the photos -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 14:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 03:04, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Wmtitlecard.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Wmtitlecard.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AWmtitlecard.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Wmtitlecard.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AWmtitlecard.jpg}} logs]).

• Image is made of multiple photos without sources or licenses for the photos -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 14:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
• Additionally, there may be FOP issues. The photos suggest that this was taken in a city called Memphis. There are many cities with that name, but the use of English on the signs suggests that it was taken in one of the cities in the United States which lacks FOP for notices like this. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξ^xplicit 22:20, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

::File:First technetium-99m generator - 1958.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:First technetium-99m generator - 1958.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AFirst+technetium-99m+generator+-+1958.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:First technetium-99m generator - 1958.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AFirst+technetium-99m+generator+-+1958.jpg}} logs]).

• The source links directly to the image, so there is no way to confirm that the image was created by the US government. US government websites frequently host images not created by the US government and the US government warns about this since copyrighted images often are related to the United States Department of Energy. Stefan2 (talk) 14:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
• Here is the description page:

http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/history/tc-99m.asp

sorry, Alberto Fernandez Fernandez — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.189.92.170 (talk) 15:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

• Delete per [http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/images_legal.asp BNL's Image licensing policy]. Basically, you have to have permission from BNL to use the images. As such, they own the copyright. Also, I do not believe they would be willing to give specific licenses that would allow for use on Wikipedia since they do not want alteration of their images. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 15:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
• Keep It is not because you have a licensing policy on your website that you own the license of all the picture on it. Back in 1958, all nuke labs where ran by the United States Atomic Energy Commission, a US federal agency, part of which became US DOE. This historic picture of the most widely used nuclear diagnostic tracer would anyway qualify for fair use if this can be a solution. Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 17:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
• I think that Alberto Fernandez Fernandez has a point here. Per the article Brookhaven National Laboratory was owned by the United States Atomic Energy Commission in 1958 and therefore it is not relevant how the copyright is today and how the lab gets it money today. I think the question is who took the photo back then and where he/she was emplyed. --MGA73 (talk) 18:19, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

:: Its hard to find who may have taken the picture but IMHO it would be rather difficult back then for a person outside AEC/US DOE to be authorized to take pictures in a nuke lab in the middle of the Cold War's nuclear race. --Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 19:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

:::I agree. I think it should be safe to keep this file. --MGA73 (talk) 06:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: delete, insufficient evidence to verify that this image was published. — ξ^xplicit 22:20, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

::File:Members of the First NWFP Legislative Assembly 1937.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Members of the First NWFP Legislative Assembly 1937.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AMembers+of+the+First+NWFP+Legislative+Assembly+1937.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Members of the First NWFP Legislative Assembly 1937.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AMembers+of+the+First+NWFP+Legislative+Assembly+1937.jpg}} logs]).

• The photo belongs to the uploader's grandfather, but the uploader's grandfather appears on the photo so he is unlikely the photographer. Also appears [http://www.hashtnagar.com/1937LA.html elsewhere on the Internet]. Stefan2 (talk) 15:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi dear User:Stefan -- im sorry, just saw your note and the use of the photo elsewhere, after having thanked the uploader! :) From what I can judge, this is a group photo taken officially of legislators of this assembly, but I dont have any idea who the photographer was. Wouldnt the copyright probably vest with the NWFP legislative assmebly (now the Khbyer Pakhtunkhwa Assembly)? What would be the status of the photo under these circumstances, please? Its a good photo and Id like to keep it if possible, but would value your advice/comments, thanks. Khani100 (talk) 16:09, 18 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100

• It seems that I might have made a mistake when nominating the file. According to Commons:COM:L#Pakistan, photos enter the public domain in Pakistan 50 years after they were taken, and this photo is more than 50 years old. However, if not previously published, there might be an issue with the US copyright of the photo. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

• Keep it is in the public domain in Pakistan (creation +50 years) since 1987. Since it entered the Public domain before 1996 (date of restoration) it is in the public domain in the United States. I'm updating the licenses to PD-Pakistan. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 15:13, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
• If it was first published in Pakistan, then yes, it is in the public domain in the United States because it was in the public domain in Pakistan in 1996. However, if this is an unpublished photo, it is protected for life+70 years (or sometimes creation+120 years) in the United States, and in that case it is still copyrighted in the United States. There is no evidence of any publication. Furthermore, since the scanned copy belonged to the uploader's grandfather, who also appears on the photo, it is entirely possible that this might be some private unpublished photo only distributed to the people on the photo. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:12, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
• I find it very unlikely that a photo of the first NWFP Legislative Assembly was not published. But we have no 100 % solid proof for that.

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G5 by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Lord Hill Minister.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Lord Hill Minister.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3ALord+Hill+Minister.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Lord Hill Minister.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ALord+Hill+Minister.jpg}} logs]).

• The [http://www.education.gov.uk/help/legalinformation/a005237/use-of-crown-copyright-material copyright notice] includes the wording "The Crown copyright-protected material featured on this website (other than Departmental or agency logos and visual media) may be reproduced free of charge in any format or medium, under the terms of the Open Government Licence", which excludes visual media (ie - photos) from the OGL licence. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 16:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G5 by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Nick Gibb Minister.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Nick Gibb Minister.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3ANick+Gibb+Minister.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Nick Gibb Minister.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ANick+Gibb+Minister.jpg}} logs]).

• Per Lord Hill Minister.jpg above. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 16:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G5 by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Michael Gove Minister.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Michael Gove Minister.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AMichael+Gove+Minister.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Michael Gove Minister.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AMichael+Gove+Minister.jpg}} logs]).

• Per Lord Hill Minister.jpg above. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 16:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
• I would tend to agree that this image is probably not free - see Talk:Michael Gove. I'd suggest that this is likely to be true of at least some of the others here as well. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G5 by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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• Per Lord Hill Minister.jpg above. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 16:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G5 by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} AnomieBOT⚡ 21:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Tim Loughton Minister.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Tim Loughton Minister.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3ATim+Loughton+Minister.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Tim Loughton Minister.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ATim+Loughton+Minister.jpg}} logs]).

• Per Lord Hill Minister.jpg above. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 16:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:T-AGDS-2 Point Loma.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:T-AGDS-2 Point Loma.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AT-AGDS-2+Point+Loma.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:T-AGDS-2 Point Loma.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AT-AGDS-2+Point+Loma.jpg}} logs]).

• Orphan image sourced to a site about the Navy (but not a .gov site). Probably is a Navy photo, but I'm not sure that we can be confident of this. Thoughts? Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:33, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:T.DESEINE.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:T.DESEINE.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AT.DESEINE.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:T.DESEINE.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AT.DESEINE.JPG}} logs]).

• unclear whether uploader is Claude Iverne (to whom photo is credited). web resolution. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Violentapathy.png ([{{fullurl:File:Violentapathy.png|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AViolentapathy.png%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Violentapathy.png|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AViolentapathy.png}} logs]).

• Image is possibly unfree. it looks like a scan of a newspaper or promo material and the source is listed as "the archives of Eliot Rachman". Unknown original copyright -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Gen soedirman monument at surabaya.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Gen soedirman monument at surabaya.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AGen+soedirman+monument+at+surabaya.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Gen soedirman monument at surabaya.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AGen+soedirman+monument+at+surabaya.jpg}} logs]).

• No FOP in Indonesia. See :Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gen soedirman monument at surabaya.jpg MGA73 (talk) 19:42, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Ushiku4thFloor.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Ushiku4thFloor.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AUshiku4thFloor.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Ushiku4thFloor.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AUshiku4thFloor.jpg}} logs]).

• Image is made from two photos, sources and licenses are not listed for those -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 19:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Brooklyn salsa.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Brooklyn salsa.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3ABrooklyn+salsa.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Brooklyn salsa.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABrooklyn+salsa.jpg}} logs]).

• Uploaded by a user paid to edit articles, probably not actually free. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
• Delete - no evidence of permission for it to be released under a CC license. SmartSE (talk) 15:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:WilliamKurkJune2011.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:WilliamKurkJune2011.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AWilliamKurkJune2011.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:WilliamKurkJune2011.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AWilliamKurkJune2011.jpg}} logs]).

• User blocked for paid editing. Unused image, may not actually be free. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:16, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
• Delete - no evidence of permission for it to be released under a CC license. SmartSE (talk) 15:44, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete per G12 - blatant copyvio SmartSE (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

::File:Uvbuvaandsunlight.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:Uvbuvaandsunlight.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2012+April+18%23File%3AUvbuvaandsunlight.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Uvbuvaandsunlight.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AUvbuvaandsunlight.JPG}} logs]).

• Image is an obvious photograph of a book or piece of paper. Unknown copyright for original document/diagram. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:11, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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