Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 24#ANE Resources
=November 24=
==<span id="Wikipedia:INDECISION2010">Wikipedia:INDECISION2010</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Wikipedia:INDECISION2010 }} → Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010 (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Wikipedia:INDECISION2010|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Wikipedia:INDECISION2010|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
This redirect appears to be a form of commentary on the nature or outcome of the elections. Tijfo098 (talk) 21:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: There's also WP:INDECISION2009, by a different humorist. Jafeluv (talk) 09:17, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Comment It's a play on a bit that they did on the Daily Show during the US election. -DJSasso (talk) 12:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Aahh, then I propose we rename it to WP:WALK IT OFF YOU PUSSIES 2010; at least that is [http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-29-2010/indecision-2010---democratic-campaign-woes humorous]. Tijfo098 (talk) 20:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - It's funny-ish, but ... meh. At least end use in Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010/Header. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Why not? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:26, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep As Fetch I am not seeing why this should be deleted. →GƒoleyFour (GSV) 04:04, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep. The short form is displayed at the top of the page, and while voting is ongoing, the short form may be used to get to the ARBCOM election page. Needs to be kept as we're right in the middle of this. Next year, can decide whether or not to use this particular term again. Saebvn (talk) 16:31, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep I was actually trying to use this redirect, as it is the only one of the redirects to the ArbCom elections that I can actually remember (because I find it funny). What's the harm in keeping it? Jenks24 (talk) 05:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per Jenks. It's effective because it's funny, and does not constitute biased or inappropriate commentary on the elections. -- Lear's Fool 08:41, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Veil of ignorance (disambiguation)">Veil of ignorance (disambiguation)</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Deleted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Veil of ignorance (disambiguation) }} → Veil of ignorance (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Veil of ignorance (disambiguation)|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Veil of ignorance (disambiguation)|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
Delete. The target is not a dab page. Jafeluv (talk) 17:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- {{strike|Keep but replace the redirect with a disambiguation page}} – Veil of ignorance was dab page before someone moved Veil of ignorance (philosophy) over the top of it. Veil of ignorance (disambiguation) should be recreated. McLerristarr | Mclay1 06:39, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Why? There are only two articles with that title, so a hatnote gets the reader to the right article just fine. No need for a disambiguation page (see WP:TWODABS). This is why the article was moved over the dab page in the first place instead of moving the dab page to Veil of ignorance (disambiguation). Jafeluv (talk) 11:57, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. In that case, I change my vote to delete. McLerristarr | Mclay1 06:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The page is not a useful redirect (points to a page that is not a disambiguation page, no significant incoming links, no essential page history as the pagemove is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Veil_of_ignorance&action=historysubmit&diff=357084277&oldid=356690558 preserved] in the page history of the target page, <10 pageviews per month) and should not be converted to a disambiguation page since there are only two topics (a hatnote works just as well). P.S. Jafeluv, thanks for making me privy to the existence of the "intitle" function of Special:Search. :) -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Bajrang Lal Takhar">Bajrang Lal Takhar</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was speedy closed as wrong forum. The procedure in WP:RM should be followed; perhaps simply tagging
- {{noredirect|1 = Bajrang Lal Takhar }} → Bajranglal Takhar (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Bajrang Lal Takhar|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Bajrang Lal Takhar|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
Deletion. The name of the sportsperson is "Bajrang Lal Takhar" and not "Bajranglal Takhar" (185000+ google hits for the former and 3000 hits for the latter). So, the current article should be moved from "Bajranglal Takhar" to "Bajrang Lal Takhar." However, this cannot be done till such time that the existing redirect at "Bajrang Lal Takhar" is deleted. Hence, I propose deletion. Gurubrahma (talk) 14:30, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:*If there is consensus, I'd also request the deleting administrator to move "Bajranglal Takhar" to "Bajrang Lal Takhar." --Gurubrahma (talk) 14:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
::*Sounds like you should take this to WP:MOVES. Sideways713 (talk) 17:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Brendan Gallagher">Brendan Gallagher</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Deleted. There are at least 3 other Brendan Gallagher's mentioned in Wikipedia articles. None of which currently seem notable enough for articles so a dab page is not appropriate. Redirecting to this target is also not appropriate as our users may not be looking for the hockey player. This is a case where the search function is better than a redirect. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:02, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Brendan Gallagher }} → Vancouver Giants (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Brendan Gallagher|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Brendan Gallagher|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
I'd like to see Gallagher's article deleted at this point as I don't see it as useful at this point. The author of the article want it to remain, citing point 2, 3, 4 and 5 at WP:REDIRECT#KEEP. I don't see enough information about Gallagher to warrant an article or redirect. There are more than one hundred players selected in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft currently playing in North American junior leagues, should they all get a page which simply redirects to their current team? Or is there something noteworthy about Gallagher which warrants an article at this point? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ho-ju-96 (talk • contribs)
- Delete: This would never survive as an independent article at AfD; Gallagher is a low round draft pick currently in the junior leagues, and completely fails the criteria of WP:NHOCKEY. Ravenswing 11:44, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- This is not, and never has been, an article on that person. It's a redirect, and whether it survives here is the issue. Uncle G (talk) 09:43, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- Delete Redirects should only be created if there is a high likelihood the article will be created/searched in the future and the page it is redirecting too is strongly connected. Neither of these things are true of this redirect. Creating redirects for every player ever drafted would clog up the wiki and cause issues for other people with the same name getting articles down the road. -DJSasso (talk) 11:48, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- DJSasso's argument that redirects should only be created if there is a high likelihood the article will be created is, first of all, incorrect – the future creation of an article is not a reason for a redirect, but in any event, the hockey player is on track for a professional career, and therefore has a very high probability that he will someday meet the notability requirements for his own article. And I do not believe for a second that the name “Brendan Gallagher” is so common-place that its redirect will “clog up the wiki” as suggested. Dolovis (talk) 15:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- He was drafted in the 5th round. It is very common for someone drafted that low to never reach the levels required to meet notability. If he were a 1st or 2nd round pick I might be more inclined to agree with you. I also never said the name was common, but that redirecting non-notable individuals often causes more problems than it helps. -DJSasso (talk) 15:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- WP:CRYSTAL. Being "on track for a professional career" is not a valid keep reason. Not to mention that going from a non-notable junior player to a non-notable minor league professional would not justify a future article. Creation should happen after notability is achieved, not before. Resolute 18:34, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm flabbergasted that an experienced editor would ever try to get "on track for a professional career" past people. A good part of the reason for WP:CRYSTAL is that "sure things" often aren't. Want a list of every NHL first round draft pick who never played a single game in the majors? Through the 2001 draft, it's seventy-two of them. Ravenswing 14:51, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: It is a useful redirect and should be kept. This is a redirect for a Major Junior ice hockey player who was drafted by the Montreal Canadiens in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft. He does not currently meet the notability standards set out at WP:Hockey, but he is listed as an NHL prospect at all on-line hockey data sources, including NHL.com. Whether or not this would survive as an independent article at AfD is not relevant, because it is not an article – it is a redirect. As a redirect it meets the criteria to be kept per reasons #2, #3, #4, and #5 of the Reasons for not deleting redirects guidelines. Dolovis (talk) 15:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- It actually doesn't meet most of those (2, 3 & 4). It might possibly meet 5, however, if anything creating the redirect hinders rather than helps. Red links are good, and they help you know when an article might need to be created. By creating a redirect like this you take away the red link. In this case an article wouldn't be created, however, in the future it might be eligible for an article and by turning it into a redirect you hide the fact that we are missing the article. -DJSasso (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete. I suppose I could see a marginal use for this to be redirected to List of Montreal Canadiens draft picks (as you did with Lance Bouma and the Flames list), but overall I don't see this as a useful redirect as "Brendan Gallagher" is only trivially mentioned as being on the roster on the Vancouver Giants article. Given that the majority of these redirects will never be turned into articles and will undoubtedly be forgotten, we are setting ourselves up for a mess of redirects that point to articles that will have no mention of the names being pointed to these team articles. Resolute 18:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per -DJSasso's and Resolute's points above, specifically ties into WP:REDIRECT#DELETE #10 -Pparazorback (talk) 09:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Frekin' everyone's gonna come to Wikipedia to see about this guy. This guy's on fire! [http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=2327 NHL Hockey: NHL Draft Profile - Brendan Gallagher], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=500372#&navid=nhl-search Gallagher has three points as Giants beat Hurricanes in fight-filled affair], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=5033 Gallagher's two power-play goals put Vancouver over the Silvertips 4-2], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=507072 Gallagher, Manning score twice as Giants defeat Winterhawks 7-3], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=507901 Gallagher scores 4 to lead Vancouver to a 6-2 victory over Prince George], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=509335#&navid=nhl-search Gallagher counts two goals and an assist as Giants blank Bruins 5-0], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=512696 Gallagher scores twice to lead Giants to 6-2 win over Rebels], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=515649 Musil and Gallagher both score twice as Vancouver Giants tame Prince George 7-4], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=518316 Gallagher scores twice as Vancouver Giants top Saskatoon Blades 5-2], [http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=518848 Gallagher scores twice, Vancouver Giants edge Regina Pats 4-3 in WHL play], [http://www.spjournal.com/article/GB/20100925/CP03/309259977/-1/stp/gallaghers-five-point-night-lifts-vancouver-giants-over-chilliwack&template=stpcpart Gallagher's five-point night lifts Vancouver Giants over Chilliwack Bruins 9-4], [http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2010-10-23-3904045487_x.htm Gallagher nets pair as Vancouver Giants beat Brandon Wheat Kings 5-2]. But I didn't see enough for a standalone biography article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:41, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- That is not really the point, the point is this redirect will just lead him to the team page which only mentions him as being on the roster and that is all it will likely ever mention. We are talking about the redirect itself not the player. -DJSasso (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Portal:Game">Portal:Game</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Mixed. First three deleted, next two kept, and last one re-targeted to Portal:Sports and games. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:Game }} → Category talk:Sports and games portal (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:Game|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Portal:Game|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:List of M*A*S*H episodes }} → :Wikipedia:WikiProject M*A*S*H (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:List of M*A*S*H episodes|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:List of M*A*S*H episodes|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:M*A*S*H (TV series) }} → :Wikipedia:WikiProject M*A*S*H (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:M*A*S*H (TV series)|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:M*A*S*H (TV series)|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:Russia/New article announcements }} → :Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/New article announcements (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:Russia/New article announcements|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:Russia/New article announcements|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- :Wikipedia:WikiProject Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}}) →
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:Sport and games }} → :Category talk:Sports and games portal (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:Sport and games|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:Sport and games|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Africa as there have previously been no discussion on the subject of these cross-namespace redirects. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Portal:List of M*A*S*H episodes and the Russia ones could probably be deleted as useless, but there is no compelling reason to. The others should be redirected to the appropriate portal, as plausible. —innotata 22:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- None of these redirects point to good targets, but not all should be deleted. Delete Portal:Game - the title is ambiguous (see Game (disambiguation)) and the redirect is practically unused. Delete Portal:List of M*A*S*H episodes - a list of episodes is not something that should be a stand-alone portal page and the redirect is unused. Weak delete Portal:M*A*S*H (TV series) - although this could be a plausible redirect to Portal:M*A*S*H, the redirect is unused and anyone who starts to type the title would see the main portal page in the search drop-down list. Weak keep the two Russia-related redirects for now, as there are many incoming links at the moment. Retarget Portal:Sport and games to Portal:Sports and games. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:43, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Retarget within portal space, unless they are inappropriate within portal-space (for example "Portal:Russia/New article announcements" - which has incoming links but mainly from a 2006 user talk page spam as far as I can see. Rich Farmbrough, 19:05, 16 December 2010 (UTC).
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==<span id="Portal:United States of America">Portal:United States of America</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Keep three, but delete Portal:Palestinian National Authority.. Courcelles 08:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:United States of America }} → Portal:United States (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:United States of America|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Portal:United States of America|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:State of Palestine }} → :Portal:Palestine (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:State of Palestine|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:State of Palestine|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:Palestinian National Authority }} → :Portal:Palestine (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:Palestinian National Authority|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:Palestinian National Authority|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal:Cricket (sport) }} → :Portal:Cricket (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal:Cricket (sport)|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal:Cricket (sport)|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Africa as there have previously been no discussion on the subject of these low-traffic redirects. They are also implausible because of their length, the autocomplete should be able to locate the portals without the need of these. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep why is "Portal:United States of America" implausible?? It's the formal name of the country the portal addresses. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 05:48, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep – harmless. McLerristarr | Mclay1 06:43, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - I think we need to keep the US one. Regarding the other three I have no expertise in them but they all seem plausible to me. --Kumioko (talk) 13:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Portal:United States of America - little-used, probably thanks to autocomplete, but not implausible. Keep Portal:State of Palestine - this probably should be the title of the portal, as its scope seems to be the State of Palestine and not just the Palestine geographic region. Delete Portal:Palestinian National Authority
and Portal:Cricket (sport)- it isthey arealmost completely unused, and the autocomplete would resolve any searches for itthem. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC) - Comment if you wanted to be sure to link to the sport's portal and not the insect's portal, "Cricket (sport)" seems plausible enough. 76.66.194.128 (talk) 05:53, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. I've adjusted my comment. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:38, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Delete only Portal:Palestinian National Authority, per Black Falcon. Rehman 13:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="User:Pkukiss">User:Pkukiss</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Delete. Lenticel (talk) 00:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = User:Pkukiss }} → Kiss (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:User:Pkukiss|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=User:Pkukiss|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this cross-namespace redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete or blank as cross-namespace redirect. —innotata 22:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete or blank. While users do and should have significant leeway with regard to what they do on their user pages, redirecting one's user page in this manner starts to negatively affect other users (by redirecting them to an unintended page). -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, per Black Falcon. Rehman 13:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="FUck">FUck</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Delete. --Taelus (talk) 10:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = FUck }} → Fuck you (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:FUck|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=FUck|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this low-traffic, implausible redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete – although this is entirely plausible, we don't need a billion redirects to account for people pressing shift for too long. McLerristarr | Mclay1 06:45, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - The redirect target actually is the article "Fuck" (a single-world title), so the search function will automatically take care of any capitalization variants. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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You miss the point - the U is capitalised deliberately - it means "you". Rich Farmbrough, 19:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC).
==<span id="Ppmm">Ppmm</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Deleted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Ppmm }} → PPM (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Ppmm|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Ppmm|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this low-traffic, implausible redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete we don't have any "PPMM" articles. —innotata 22:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, per Innotata. Rehman 13:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Old Bush">Old Bush</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Deleted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Old Bush }} → George H. W. Bush (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Old Bush|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Old Bush|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this low-traffic, implausible redirect (search term could refer to just about any other bush). User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - low traffic, not too plausible and ambiguous. The title could refer to any old Bush or bush (e.g., the colony of Box Huckleberry in Pennsylvania that is estimated to be 5,000–13,000 years old). -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, per BlackFalcon. Rehman 13:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Idclip">Idclip</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Re-targeted to John Romero#Doom II and Final Doom where idclip is described. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Idclip }} → Noclip mode (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Idclip|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Idclip|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this low-traffic, implausible redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - helpful redirect that isn't all that implausible (it's the noclip code for Doom II). Sideways713 (talk) 10:10, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Weak delete - practically unused (c. 10 pageviews per month) redirect, with no incoming links and no essential page history, from a cheat code in a single game (actually, if I understand correctly, one installment of a series). Perhaps more importantly, the code is not even mentioned at the target page (added later: and, per Sideways713's reasoning below, probably should not be mentioned)
; in fact, the target article suggests that "noclip" is the noclip code for Doom II (see Noclip mode#Description). -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC) - Comment I removed the claim that "noclip" is the noclip code for Doom II, which it isn't (it is the noclip code for Doom 3, but I didn't put that in). I didn't replace it with any mention of "idclip" either; no other noclip codes are specifically mentioned, and if idspispopd (which is the original Doom noclip code and regularly gets 200 views/month) isn't mentioned in the article, there's no reason idclip should be. Sideways713 (talk) 09:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for correcting the article. I've struck the relevant portion from my comment. -- Black Falcon (talk) 15:40, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep not recent (four years old). Rich Farmbrough, 19:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC).
- How does "not recent" translate to "Keep"? This is not CSD, it's RfD. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 20:39, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- You have read WP:RFD#HARMFUL, haven't you? Sideways713 (talk) 10:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Vivat">Vivat</span>==
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:The result of the discussion was Kept. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:18, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Vivat }} → Vive, Viva (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Vivat|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Vivat|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this low-traffic, implausible redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Given the second sentence of Vive, Viva, this is clearly not implausible in the least, and is a perfectly fine redirect. The traffic that it garners is quite irrelevant. It's a good redirect that does an appropriate job. Uncle G (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- I concur with Uncle G. The redirect's title is mentioned multiple times in the lead of the target article, and the redirect itself receives c. 100 pageviews per month, which is (in my opinion) well above the threshold of "low-traffic". -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Kapkinoe">Kapkinoe</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was Deleted. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Kapkinoe }} → Karkinos (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Kapkinoe|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Kapkinoe|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
{{relisted}} from Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 November 17#User:Pkukiss to discuss this low-traffic, implausible redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - plausible alternative transliteration. Bridgeplayer (talk) 15:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete. Contrary to Bridgeplayer's suggestion, "Kapkinoe" is not a plausible transliteration of Greek "Καρκινος". This redirect is therefore misleading, and should be deleted. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per This, that and the other. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:55, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- Comment – The target of this redirect, Karkinos, now redirects to Cancer (constellation). McLerristarr | Mclay1 10:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Convicted politicians">Convicted politicians</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was Re-targeted per Black Falcon. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:13, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Convicted politicians }} → :Category:Convicted politicians by nationality (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Convicted politicians|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Convicted politicians|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Hotel chain }} → :Category:Hotel chains (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Hotel chain|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Hotel chain|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of Linux vendors }} → :Category:Linux distributions (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of Linux vendors|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of Linux vendors|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Nickel alloys }} → :Category:Nickel alloys (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Nickel alloys|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Nickel alloys|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Open-source search engine }} → :Category:Free search engine software (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Open-source search engine|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Open-source search engine|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
All of these are low-traffic redirects from mainspace to category-space. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 07:16, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Convicted politicians - this target was agreed at RFD just last month. Premature renomination but in any case a good target. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep - Hotel chain and Nickel alloys - instances where a redirect to a category is obviously helpful. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Retarget - List of Linux distributions to Comparison of Linux distributions as helpful retargeting. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Retarget - Open-source search engine to Web search engine; the existing target of Open-source search engines. Bridgeplayer (talk) 01:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Retarget all, in the following manner:
- :Convicted politicians → :Category:Politicians convicted of crimes - parent category to the 'by nationality' category
- :Hotel chain → Hotel - eliminates the need for a cross-namespace redirect, and without pluralization (?)
capitalization(i.e., "chain" instead of "chains"), we cannot assume that the reader is searching for a listing of hotel chains - :List of Linux distributions → Comparison of Linux distributions, per Bridgeplayer
- :Nickel alloys → List of alloys#Alloys of nickel, where the category is linked
- :Open-source search engine → Web search engine, per Bridgeplayer.
- :-- Black Falcon (talk) 23:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Retarget all as per Black Falcon. -- Ϫ 04:46, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="1988 election">1988 election</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was No consensus. There is no consensus for deletion. Of the 5 or so that have main space alternatives, they have been redirected. As for suggestion to restore articles or create new lists, any editor that wishes may be bold and do that. If there are issues, they should be worked out at the applicable articles' talk pages. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = 1988 election }} → :Category:1988 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1988 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=1988 election|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1990 election }} → :Category:1990 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1990 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1990 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1990 elections }} → :Category:1990 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1990 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1990 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1991 election }} → :Category:1991 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1991 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1991 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1991 elections }} → :Category:1991 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1991 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1991 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1992 election }} → :Category:1992 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1992 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1992 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1992 elections }} → :Category:1992 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1992 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1992 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1993 election }} → :Category:1993 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1993 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1993 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1993 elections }} → :Category:1993 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1993 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1993 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1994 election }} → :Category:1994 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1994 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1994 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1994 elections }} → :Category:1994 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1994 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1994 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 1994 }} → :Category:1994 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 1994|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 1994|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1995 election }} → :Category:1995 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1995 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1995 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1995 elections }} → :Category:1995 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1995 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1995 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 1995 }} → :Category:1995 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 1995|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 1995|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1996 election }} → :Category:1996 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1996 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1996 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1996 elections }} → :Category:1996 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1996 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1996 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 1996 }} → :Category:1996 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 1996|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 1996|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1997 election }} → :Category:1997 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1997 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1997 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1997 elections }} → :Category:1997 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1997 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1997 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 1997 }} → :Category:1997 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 1997|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 1997|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1998 election }} → :Category:1998 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1998 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1998 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1998 elections }} → :Category:1998 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1998 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1998 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 1998 }} → :Category:1998 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 1998|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 1998|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1999 election }} → :Category:1999 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1999 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1999 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 1999 elections }} → :Category:1999 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:1999 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1999 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 1999 }} → :Category:1999 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 1999|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 1999|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2000 election }} → :Category:2000 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2000 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2000 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2000 elections }} → :Category:2000 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2000 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2000 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Election 2000 }} → :Category:2000 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Election 2000|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Election 2000|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections 2000 }} → :Category:2000 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections 2000|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections 2000|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 2000 }} → :Category:2000 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 2000|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 2000|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2001 election }} → :Category:2001 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2001 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2001 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2001 elections }} → :Category:2001 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2001 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2001 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Election 2001 }} → :Category:2001 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Election 2001|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Election 2001|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections 2001 }} → :Category:2001 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections 2001|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections 2001|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 2001 }} → :Category:2001 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 2001|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 2001|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2002 election }} → :Category:2002 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2002 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2002 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2002 elections }} → :Category:2002 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2002 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2002 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Election 2002 }} → :Category:2002 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Election 2002|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Election 2002|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections 2002 }} → :Category:2002 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections 2002|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections 2002|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 2002 }} → :Category:2002 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 2002|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 2002|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections of 2002 }} → :Category:2002 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections of 2002|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections of 2002|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2003 election }} → :Category:2003 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2003 election|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2003 election|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = 2003 elections }} → :Category:2003 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:2003 elections|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|2003 elections|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Election 2003 }} → :Category:2003 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Election 2003|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Election 2003|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections 2003 }} → :Category:2003 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections 2003|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections 2003|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections in 2003 }} → :Category:2003 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections in 2003|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections in 2003|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Elections 2004 }} → :Category:2004 elections (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Elections 2004|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Elections 2004|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
All of these are low-traffic redirects from mainspace to category-space. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 07:16, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep all. Many mainspace -> category-space redirects are useful, and these particular ones are extremely helpful to readers seeking this information who might otherwise be unaware of our category system or how to get to it. -- Ϫ 14:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep all - helpful redirects. I would add that though most are low-traffic some are not. Several have 1-300 hits in some months. Bridgeplayer (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- While I was checking the incoming links and usage statistics of the redirects, I noticed that the redirects which received many views tended to be ones with incoming links from the mainspace. Redirects with no such incoming links (e.g., 2003 election, 2003 elections) have tended to receive less than 30 hits per month. I have replaced all incoming links, except those generated by {{tl|Election results by year}}, so usage should begin to return to negligible levels. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete all. Mainspace -> category redirects are confusing to new editors and play havoc with maintenance lists. No objection to making these into disamb pages that also have a "see also" section pointing to the category. --Fabrictramp | talk to me 03:52, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- In general, I agree with Fabrictramp that cross-namespace redirects of this type are harmful and blur the distinction between lists and categories (something that is a consant source of problems at WP:CFD). In addition, their existence facilitates ambiguous links ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dave_McCurdy&action=historysubmit&diff=399341283&oldid=391926523][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Herald-Sun_%28Durham%2C_North_Carolina%29&action=historysubmit&diff=399345933&oldid=391605505][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_Senate_elections%2C_1998&action=historysubmit&diff=399346368&oldid=398477360][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Roache&action=historysubmit&diff=399347101&oldid=398491580][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C5%BDeljko_Ra%C5%BEnatovi%C4%87&action=historysubmit&diff=399349507&oldid=397113988][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Murray&action=historysubmit&diff=399349704&oldid=399230077][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rod_Grams&action=historysubmit&diff=399349860&oldid=397609358][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chuck_Hagel&action=historysubmit&diff=399349949&oldid=398962921][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Florida_Central_Voter_File&action=historysubmit&diff=399350165&oldid=329516245][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=McGovern%E2%80%93Fraser_Commission&action=historysubmit&diff=399350459&oldid=395497716][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Rivera&action=historysubmit&diff=399350652&oldid=397152673][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Carver&action=historysubmit&diff=399350785&oldid=388245211][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Democracy_%28Sweden%29&action=historysubmit&diff=399352868&oldid=398586098][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Florida_Cabinet&action=historysubmit&diff=399353097&oldid=363509007]) within articles. Lastly, the existence of these redirects turns otherwise red links blue, and discourages the creation of proper articles or lists for these topics.
After checking each redirect's incoming links, page history, and pageview statistics, I think the best course of action would be to: - :Revert the following redirects to a prior revision and, if applicable, rename them to Elections in {Year}:
- ::1998 election to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1988_election&oldid=226537549 this] revision
- ::1992 election to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1992_election&oldid=226182982 this] revision
- ::Elections in 1996 to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elections_in_1996&oldid=163397273 this] revision
- ::1997 election to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1997_election&oldid=236852572 this] revision
- ::Elections in 2000 to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elections_in_2000&oldid=219465204 this] revision
- :Retarget the following redirects to a corresponding mainspace article or list:
- ::1990 election to Elections in 1990
- ::1990 elections to Elections in 1990
- ::1991 election to Elections in 1991
- ::1991 elections to Elections in 1991
- ::1992 elections to 1992 election (to be renamed to Elections in 1992)
- ::1996 election to Elections in 1996 (to be restored)
- ::1996 elections to Elections in 1996 (to be restored)
- ::1997 elections to 1997 election (to be renamed to Elections in 1997)
- ::Elections in 1997 to 1997 election (to be renamed to Elections in 1997)
- ::2000 election to Elections in 2000 (to be restored)
- ::2000 elections to Elections in 2000 (to be restored)
- :Delete the following cross-namespace redirects:
- ::1993 election, 1993 elections, 1994 election, 1994 elections, 1995 election, 1995 elections, 1998 election, 1998 elections, 1999 election, 1999 elections, 2001 election, 2001 elections, 2002 election, 2002 elections, 2003 election, 2003 elections
- :Strong delete the following cross-namespace redirects which should be redlinked to encourage article creation:
- ::Elections in 1994, Elections in 1995, Elections in 1998, Elections in 1999, Elections in 2001, Elections in 2002, Elections in 2003
- :Strong delete the following ungrammatical or non-standard cross-namespace redirects, all of which receive low traffic (except Election 2000, which had incoming links that I replaced):
- ::Election 2000 (attribution for the pagemove is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elections_in_2000&action=historysubmit&diff=399351491&oldid=398591508 preserved] in the page history of Elections in 2000), Elections 2000, Election 2001, Elections 2001, Election 2002, Elections 2002, Elections of 2002, Election 2003, Elections 2003, Elections 2004
- :I am almost inclined to suggest "delete all, and let editors to start over", but I suspect that would not have consensus. -- Black Falcon (talk) 17:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- Support Black Falcon's recommendations, on the assumption that they will be carried out at the closure of this CfD. -- Ϫ 00:33, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Don't delete whatever you do. The worst thing that could happen is for someone to type "1992 election" into the search form and get nothing at all. I don't have a strong opinion about the best thing to put there, but something a little iffy is much better than nothing. Croctotheface (talk) 10:47, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Why not? This is absolutely nothing at all. If someone were to type “1992 election” and got a redlink instead of a redirect, that would at least be an incentive for them to put some material into the article, but, right now, as a redirect it sits on something that could be fleshed out into an actual article and points to a different page while the redirect itself would never be noticed, except for a little “redirected from” notice at the top of the page. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 02:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Links should exist (or not) to help the readers, not to "incentivize" or cajole or annoy into action the tiny fraction of Wikipedia readers who are also editors. If you're concerned that there should be an article there, put it there. Croctotheface (talk) 04:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would rather keep a redlink without information than an article with incorrect information, or even more so than a non-article page. No information > bad information. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 04:43, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- Listify. Rich Farmbrough, 19:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC).
- I made Elections in 1999 which shows how messed up the cats are... Rich Farmbrough, 02:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC).
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==<span id="ANE Resources">ANE Resources</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was Keep all. Courcelles 08:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = ANE Resources }} → Portal:Ancient Near East/Resources (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:ANE Resources|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=ANE Resources|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
- {{noredirect|1 = ANE Topics }} → :Portal:Ancient Near East/Topics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:ANE Topics|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|ANE Topics|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = ANE portal }} → :Portal:Ancient Near East (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:ANE portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|ANE portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = ANE resources }} → :Portal:Ancient Near East/Resources (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:ANE resources|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|ANE resources|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = ANE topics }} → :Portal:Ancient Near East/Topics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:ANE topics|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|ANE topics|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Africa portal }} → :Portal:Africa (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Africa portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Africa portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Agronomy portal }} → :Portal:Agriculture and Agronomy (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Agronomy portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Agronomy portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Art portal }} → :Portal:Visual arts (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Art portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Art portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Ancient Germanic culture portal }} → :Portal:Ancient Germanic culture (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Ancient Germanic culture portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Ancient Germanic culture portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Archaeology portal }} → :Portal:Archaeology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Archaeology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Archaeology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Architecture portal }} → :Portal:Architecture (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Architecture portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Architecture portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Arts portal }} → :Portal:Arts (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Arts portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Arts portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Asia portal }} → :Portal:Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Asia portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Asia portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Astrology portal }} → :Portal:Astrology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Astrology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Astrology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Astronomy portal }} → :Portal:Astronomy (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Astronomy portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Astronomy portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Ballet Portal }} → :Portal:Ballet (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Ballet Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Ballet Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Basic topics }} → :Portal:Contents/Outlines (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Basic topics|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Basic topics|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Basic topics list }} → :Portal:Contents/Outlines (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Basic topics list|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Basic topics list|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Beatles portal }} → :Portal:The Beatles (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Beatles portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Beatles portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Biography portal }} → :Portal:Biography (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Biography portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Biography portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Biology portal }} → :Portal:Biology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Biology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Biology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Biotechnology portal }} → :Portal:Biotechnology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Biotechnology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Biotechnology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Cambodia Portal }} → :Portal:Cambodia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Cambodia Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Cambodia Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Cambodia portal }} → :Portal:Cambodia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Cambodia portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Cambodia portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Canada portal }} → :Portal:Canada (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Canada portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Canada portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Canadian portal }} → :Portal:Canada (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Canadian portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Canadian portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Chemistry portal }} → :Portal:Chemistry (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Chemistry portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Chemistry portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Chinese current events }} → :Portal:Current events/China (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Chinese current events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Chinese current events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Christianity portals }} → :Portal:Christianity (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Christianity portals|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Christianity portals|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Classical Civilisation portal }} → :Portal:Classical Civilisation (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Classical Civilisation portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Classical Civilisation portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Classical civilization portal }} → :Portal:Classical Civilisation (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Classical civilization portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Classical civilization portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Classical guitar portal }} → :Portal:Classical guitar (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Classical guitar portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Classical guitar portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Comic portal }} → :Portal:Comics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Comic portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Comic portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Comics portal }} → :Portal:Comics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Comics portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Comics portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Cricket portal }} → :Portal:Cricket (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Cricket portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Cricket portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Culture portal }} → :Portal:Culture (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Culture portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Culture portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current Sci Tech Events }} → :Portal:Current events/Science and technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current Sci Tech Events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current Sci Tech Events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current computer and video game events }} → :Portal:Video games (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current computer and video game events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current computer and video game events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current computer and video games events }} → :Portal:Video games (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current computer and video games events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current computer and video games events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Africa }} → :Portal:Current events/Africa (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Africa|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Africa|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Australia and New Zealand }} → :Portal:Current events (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Australia and New Zealand|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Australia and New Zealand|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in China }} → :Portal:Current events/China (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in China|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in China|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in East Asia }} → :Portal:Current events/China (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in East Asia|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in East Asia|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Hong Kong }} → :Portal:Hong Kong/Hong Kong news (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Hong Kong|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Hong Kong|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Israel }} → :Portal:Current events/Israel (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Israel|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Israel|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Malaysia and Singapore }} → :Portal:Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Malaysia and Singapore|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Malaysia and Singapore|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Oceania }} → :Portal:Current events (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Oceania|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Oceania|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Singapore }} → :Portal:Current events/Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Singapore|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Singapore|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Southeast Asia }} → :Portal:Current events/Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Southeast Asia|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Southeast Asia|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in Thailand }} → :Portal:Current events/Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in Thailand|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in Thailand|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in hong kong }} → :Portal:Hong Kong/Hong Kong news (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in hong kong|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in hong kong|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in the Middle East }} → :Portal:Current events/Middle East (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in the Middle East|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in the Middle East|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current events in the United States }} → :Portal:Current events/United States (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current events in the United States|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current events in the United States|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current sci tech events }} → :Portal:Current events/Science and technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current sci tech events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current sci tech events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current science and technology events }} → :Portal:Current events/Science and technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current science and technology events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current science and technology events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Current tech events }} → :Portal:Current events/Science and technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Current tech events|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Current tech events|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Currentevents }} → :Portal:Current events (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Currentevents|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Currentevents|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Dance portal }} → :Portal:Dance (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Dance portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Dance portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Devon Portal }} → :Portal:Devon (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Devon Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Devon Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Earth Sciences portal }} → :Portal:Earth sciences (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Earth Sciences portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Earth Sciences portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Electromagnetism portal }} → :Portal:Electromagnetism (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Electromagnetism portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Electromagnetism portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Education portal }} → :Portal:Education (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Education portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Education portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Egyptology portal }} → :Portal:Ancient Egypt (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Egyptology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Egyptology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Energy Portal }} → :Portal:Energy (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Energy Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Energy Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Energy portal }} → :Portal:Energy (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Energy portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Energy portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Engineering portal }} → :Portal:Engineering (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Engineering portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Engineering portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Eu portal }} → :Portal:European Union (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Eu portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Eu portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Europe portal }} → :Portal:Europe (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Europe portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Europe portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Events in Singapore }} → :Portal:Current events/Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Events in Singapore|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Events in Singapore|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Film portal }} → :Portal:Film (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Film portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Film portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Fish Portal }} → :Portal:Fish (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Fish Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Fish Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Fish portal }} → :Portal:Fish (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Fish portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Fish portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Food portal }} → :Portal:Food (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Food portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Food portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Free Software Portal }} → :Portal:Free software (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Free Software Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Free Software Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Free software portal }} → :Portal:Free software (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Free software portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Free software portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Futurama portal }} → :Portal:Futurama (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Futurama portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Futurama portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Genocide Portal Logo List }} → :Portal:Genocide/Things you can do/Logo (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Genocide Portal Logo List|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Genocide Portal Logo List|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Geography portal }} → :Portal:Geography (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Geography portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Geography portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Germany portal }} → :Portal:Germany (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Germany portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Germany portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Harry Potter portal }} → :Portal:Harry Potter (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Harry Potter portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Harry Potter portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Harry potter portal }} → :Portal:Harry potter (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Harry potter portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Harry potter portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = History of science portal }} → :Portal:History of science (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:History of science portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|History of science portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = History portal }} → :Portal:History (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:History portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|History portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Hong kong portal }} → :Portal:Hong Kong (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Hong kong portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Hong kong portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = IT portal }} → :Portal:Information technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:IT portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|IT portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = India Portal }} → :Portal:India (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:India Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|India Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Indian Portal }} → :Portal:India (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Indian Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Indian Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Indonesia portal }} → :Portal:Indonesia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Indonesia portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Indonesia portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Information Technology portal }} → :Portal:Information technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Information Technology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Information Technology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Jharkhand portal }} → :Portal:Jharkhand (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Jharkhand portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Jharkhand portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Kansas Portal }} → :Portal:Kansas (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Kansas Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Kansas Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Kazakhstan Portal }} → :Portal:Kazakhstan (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Kazakhstan Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Kazakhstan Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Latin America portal }} → :Portal:Latin America (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Latin America portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Latin America portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of Lists }} → :Portal:Contents/Lists (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of Lists|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of Lists|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of Portals }} → :Portal:Contents/Portals (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of Portals|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of Portals|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of Refernce Tables }} → :Portal:Contents/Lists (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of Refernce Tables|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of Refernce Tables|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of Wikipedia portals }} → :Portal:Contents/Portals (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of Wikipedia portals|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of Wikipedia portals|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of portals }} → :Portal:Contents/Portals (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of portals|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of portals|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = List of lists }} → :Portal:Contents/Lists (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:List of lists|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|List of lists|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Literature portal }} → :Portal:Literature (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Literature portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Literature portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = London Portal }} → :Portal:London (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:London Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|London Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Marines Portal }} → :Portal:United States Marine Corps (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Marines Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Marines Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Math portal }} → :Portal:Mathematics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Math portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Math portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Mathematics portal }} → :Portal:Mathematics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Mathematics portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Mathematics portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Medicine portal }} → :Portal:Medicine (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Medicine portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Medicine portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Middle earth portal }} → :Portal:Middle-earth (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Middle earth portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Middle earth portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Middle-earth portal }} → :Portal:Middle-earth (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Middle-earth portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Middle-earth portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Music portal }} → :Portal:Music (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Music portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Music portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Mythology portal }} → :Portal:Mythology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Mythology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Mythology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Narnia portal }} → :Portal:Narnia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Narnia portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Narnia portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = New Zealand portal }} → :Portal:New Zealand (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:New Zealand portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|New Zealand portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = North America portal }} → :Portal:North America (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:North America portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|North America portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Oceania portal }} → :Portal:Oceania (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Oceania portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Oceania portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Oklahoma portal }} → :Portal:Oklahoma (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Oklahoma portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Oklahoma portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Oregon portal }} → :Portal:Oregon (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Oregon portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Oregon portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Oregonportal }} → :Portal:Oregon (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Oregonportal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Oregonportal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Pennsylvania portal }} → :Portal:Pennsylvania (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Pennsylvania portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Pennsylvania portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Personal life portal }} → :Portal:Personal life (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Personal life portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Personal life portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Philadelphia portal }} → :Portal:Philadelphia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Philadelphia portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Philadelphia portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Philippines Portal }} → :Portal:Philippines (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Philippines Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Philippines Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Philosophy portal }} → :Portal:Philosophy (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Philosophy portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Philosophy portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Physics portal }} → :Portal:Physics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Physics portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Physics portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = PlayStation Portal }} → :Portal:Sony PlayStation (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:PlayStation Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|PlayStation Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Poetry portal }} → :Portal:Poetry (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Poetry portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Poetry portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Pokemon Portal }} → :Portal:Pokémon (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Pokemon Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Pokemon Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Pokémon Portal }} → :Portal:Pokémon (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Pokémon Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Pokémon Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Poland portal }} → :Portal:Poland (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Poland portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Poland portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Politics portal }} → :Portal:Politics (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Politics portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Politics portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal Philippines }} → :Portal:Philippines (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal Philippines|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal Philippines|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal Scotland }} → :Portal:Scotland (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal Scotland|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal Scotland|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal eu }} → :Portal:European Union (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal eu|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal eu|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal hong kong }} → :Portal:Hong Kong (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal hong kong|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal hong kong|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal india }} → :Portal:India (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal india|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal india|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal medicine }} → :Portal:Medicine (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal medicine|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal medicine|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal thailand }} → :Portal:Thailand (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal thailand|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal thailand|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portal-Class ballet articles }} → :Portal:Ballet (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portal-Class ballet articles|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portal-Class ballet articles|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Portugal Portal }} → :Portal:Portugal (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Portugal Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Portugal Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Romania portal }} → :Portal:Romania (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Romania portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Romania portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Russia portal }} → :Portal:Russia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Russia portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Russia portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Russian portal }} → :Portal:Russia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Russian portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Russian portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Science portal }} → :Portal:Science (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Science portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Science portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Sexuality portal }} → :Portal:Sexuality (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Sexuality portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Sexuality portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Shakespeare portal }} → :Portal:Shakespeare (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Shakespeare portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Shakespeare portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Society portal }} → :Portal:Society (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Society portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Society portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Speculative fiction portal }} → :Portal:Speculative fiction (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Speculative fiction portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Speculative fiction portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Star wars portal }} → :Portal:Star Wars (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Star wars portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Star wars portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Technology portal }} → :Portal:Technology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Technology portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Technology portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Thailand portal }} → :Portal:Thailand (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Thailand portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Thailand portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = The UK Trams Portal }} → :Portal:UK Trams (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:The UK Trams Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|The UK Trams Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = The uk trams portal }} → :Portal:UK Trams (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:The uk trams portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|The uk trams portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Theatre portal }} → :Portal:Theatre (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Theatre portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Theatre portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Transport portal }} → :Portal:Transport (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Transport portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Transport portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Transportation portal }} → :Portal:Transport (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Transportation portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Transportation portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = U2 portal }} → :Portal:U2 (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:U2 portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|U2 portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = UK Trams Portal }} → :Portal:UK Trams (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:UK Trams Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|UK Trams Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Uk trams portal }} → :Portal:UK Trams (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Uk trams portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Uk trams portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Ukraine portal }} → :Portal:Ukraine (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Ukraine portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Ukraine portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Ukrainian portal }} → :Portal:Ukraine (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Ukrainian portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Ukrainian portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Vancouver Portal }} → :Portal:Vancouver (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Vancouver Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Vancouver Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Video game portal }} → :Portal:Video games (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Video game portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Video game portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Visual arts portal }} → :Portal:Visual arts (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Visual arts portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Visual arts portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = War portal }} → :Portal:War (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:War portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|War portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = West Bengal Portal }} → :Portal:West Bengal (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:West Bengal Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|West Bengal Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = William Shakespeare Portal }} → :Portal:Shakespeare (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:William Shakespeare Portal|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|William Shakespeare Portal|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
Low-traffic, cross-namespace redirects to the portal namespace. Please also take this previous rfd into account when !voting. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 08:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep "List of portals" as useful to our readers and Speedy keep "List of lists" which has history dating back to October 31, 2001. No comment on the rest, except for the slight concern over the sudden interest taken by the nom in indiscriminate mass deletion of cross-namespace redirects. -- Ϫ 14:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Keep most - It looks like most of these should be kept. --Kumioko (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
- In principle, I think that most of these should be deleted, but there are just too many at once to properly evaluate. ANE Resources and most of the other redirects to subpages almost certainly should be deleted, but Astronomy portal and Math portal for instance are heavily used (400+ pageviews per month). Until someone has checked each redirect's page history, usage and incoming links, I can't support deletion. I think smaller group nominations of these redirects—based on shared characteristics other than being a cross-namespace redirect to the Portal namespace, such as redirecting to a subpage, having a certain capitalization, being misspelled, receiving very low traffic, and so on—would be useful.
For now, I support deletion of the following, which I have checked to confirm that they have no essential page history, no significant incoming links (which cannot easily be removed or replaced), and little traffic (< 30 views per month): ANE Resources, ANE Topics, ANE portal, ANE resources, ANE topics, Basic topics, Basic topics list, Events in Singapore, Genocide Portal Logo List, List of Refernce Tables, Oregonportal, The UK Trams Portal, The uk trams portal, Ukrainian portal and William Shakespeare Portal. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:29, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete all. If I lookup {{no redirect|Geography portal}}, I would expect to see an article on some sort of portal wormhole between the regions of the world, not anything else. But I really would like to keep the {{no redirect|List of lists}} antique; perhaps retarget to a mainspace article? Rehman
- Keep-There's simply too many diverse redirects being nominated here to give them a fair evaluation. Many are likely deletion-worthy, but I doubt they all are. No objection to a more piecemeal relisting.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - What -possible- justification is there for removing these redirects? They're simply aliases to another (often harder to remember, often with more typing involved) page. I -greatly- prefer to type 'list of portals' than whatever the ugly alternative is. If there's a lot of programming/memory overhead for these aliases ... and there shouldn't be ... that's a programming problem. I consider the aliases to be a -big- plus. Twang (talk) 02:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- :The primary justification usually is that they're cross-namespace, see WP:CNR for an explanation. -- Ϫ 23:22, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Change title of a Wikipedia page">Change title of a Wikipedia page</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was RESULT was delete. --Orlady (talk) 16:16, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Change title of a Wikipedia page }} → Help:Moving a page (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Change title of a Wikipedia page|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Change title of a Wikipedia page|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
Low-traffic, cross-namespace redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 08:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- The page receives sufficiently low traffic for me to support deletion. The target page has more than 40 other redirects, including a few cross-namespace redirects that are much more likely to be searched. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:59, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, redundant cross-namespace redirect, per Black Falcon. Rehman 01:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- For the same reasons that I gave on #Changing Username, I again agree with Black Falcon. Uncle G (talk) 09:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Christian topics">Christian topics</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was Mixed results in accordance with Black Falcon's recommendations. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Christian topics }} → :Category:Christianity (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Christian topics|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Christian topics|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Bacteriological techniques }} → :Category:Bacteriology (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Bacteriological techniques|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Bacteriological techniques|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = East Asian people }} → :Category:East Asia (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:East Asian people|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|East Asian people|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
- {{noredirect|1 = Indian People }} → :Category:Indian people (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Indian People|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|Indian People|text=stats|year=2010|month=10}})
All of these are low-traffic redirects from mainspace to category-space. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 08:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete Bacteriological techniques. This should be re-targeted, or else be left as a red-link for others to create. Re-target East Asian people (to where?). No comment on the other two. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Retarget Christian topics to Outline of Christianity - a useful page for people searching for something as general as "Christian topics". Delete Bacteriological techniques - the current target is not particularly helpful, and one to Microbiology would not be much better. Retarget East Asian people to Demographics of Asia or Ethnic groups in Asia#East Asia - these seem like the most directly related mainspace pages, and the redirects East Asian peoples and East Asians already point there. Retarget Indian People to Indian people and tag as a {{tl|R from other capitalisation}}. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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==<span id="Changing Username">Changing Username</span>==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was RESULT was retarget to User (computing), along with other redirects mentioned by Black Falcon. Orlady (talk) 15:58, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- {{noredirect|1 = Changing Username }} → Wikipedia:Changing username (links to redirect • [{{fullurl:Changing Username|action=history}} history] • {{stats.grok.se|1=Changing Username|year=2010|month=10|text=stats}})
Low-traffic, cross-namespace redirect. User:TeleComNasSprVenNaSpUser:TCNSV/PMD 08:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- I want to suggest retargeting to User (computing), which contains a hatnote link to Wikipedia:Username policy, but "Changing Username" just is not a likely search term for that article. Delete, I suppose. Note also Switching user names and Switching usernames, which are less plausible and less used. -- Black Falcon (talk) 20:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, including the two proposed by Black Falcon. Rehman 01:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Redirects within the encyclopaedia proper should not drop out of the encyclopaedia into the editorial plumbing. None of these three have any significant edit history, and I agree with Black Falcon. If there's no appropriate place in the encyclopaedia proper to redirect to, these should be deleted. Uncle G (talk) 09:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
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