Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 1#Masterbates

=February 1=

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 1, 2016.

==Fight Club (book vs. film)==

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:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Fight Club (book vs. film) }} → :Fight Club (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fight_Club_(book_vs._film)&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Fight%20Club%20%28book%20vs.%20film%29 stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fight Club (book vs. film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fight Club (book vs. film) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fight Club (book vs. film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fight Club (book vs. film) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fight Club (book vs. film)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fight Club (book vs. film) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

redirect that serves no purpose but conflates two articles (book and film) Widefox; talk 23:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep. It's part of the history of the target article. The history shows that there was a debate about a comparisons section that was eventually turned content moved ... well, I haven't been able to fully trace it yet. But wherever the content ended up, we shouldn't be making it even harder for future editors to unpuzzle it by deleting unharmful redirects and the history they contain. Rossami (talk) 04:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete as misleading since it implies a comparison between the book and film, which we don't have. This is also a classic WP:XY situation and we can't retarget to both Fight Club (film) and Fight Club (novel). -- Tavix ^(talk) 05:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

::Yup, it is exactly XY. I wasn't even aware of WP:XY. We do have much rule-ness. Widefox; talk 22:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete - this was a content split from Fight Club starting with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fight_Club&diff=74395118&oldid=74391107 this revision] 7 Sep 2006, and was merged back in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fight_Club&diff=75096303&oldid=75090048 this revision], four days later. It was always comparing the film to the book and always belonged in the film article, if anywhere. It was eventually trimmed out but it lasted quite some time, I haven't found where it was actually finally removed. I don't think a history merge is possible. However, since none of the short-lived comparison article's content is currently being used anywhere, I think it's safe to delete in terms of attribution. The content was built in the film article (and that history survives) and there were only a handful of edits to the comparison article anyway. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete as per the WP:XY problem, as pointed out above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:26, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Fuck in different languages==

:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Fuck in different languages }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fuck_in_different_languages&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Fuck%20in%20different%20languages stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fuck in different languages|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuck in different languages closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fuck in different languages|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuck in different languages closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fuck in different languages|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuck in different languages closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Fuck in other languages }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fuck_in_other_languages&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Fuck%20in%20other%20languages stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fuck in other languages|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuck in other languages closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fuck in other languages|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuck in other languages closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fuck in other languages|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuck in other languages closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Delete as misleading, because of the implication that there is a translation list somewhere on the page, when there isn't, nor should there be per WP:NOTDIC. There is a few foreign-language words in the etymology, but they are to show the evolution of the word; they aren't necessarily 1:1 translations. -- Tavix ^(talk) 23:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep as redirect per old AfD decision. Rossami (talk) 05:00, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per nominator. The AfD showed no consensus for redirecting anyway; that was merely a unilateral action by the closer. Even if there were consensus, it's been 10 years, and Wikipedia:Consensus can change. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 06:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete wikipedia does not and should not provide the answer to that search string. Legacypac (talk) 06:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete - Wikipedia is not a translation service. Furthermore there is no list of same-meaning foreign-language epithets on the page, so readers searching for this will be disappointed. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:03, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete - WP:NOT - WP:DICT or translation service. Widefox; talk 22:40, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per the opinions expressed above. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 22:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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==More equal==

:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = More equal }} → :Animal Farm (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=More_equal&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/More%20equal stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:More equal|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#More equal closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:More equal|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#More equal closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:More equal|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#More equal closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

I believe this is likely to astonish. "More equal" is usually used in terms of equality (eg: after the Civil Rights Movement, blacks became more equal). I could see this vaguely referring to Primus inter pares, probably from a critical viewpoint. Thoughts? -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Comment - it's just as likely as a reference to Animal Farm, I think, wherein the pigs espoused equality for all of the animals, but also proposed that they were more equal than the others. I think it's more of an allusion to benign dictatorship, but then again I'm not a literary critic. It's vague, I wouldn't be sad if this were made more deleted. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:08, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::It's definitely a reference to Animal Farm, although it's only part of it. The full quote is: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." Several non-vague variants of that quote redirect there, and I'm fine with all of them but this one. -- Tavix ^(talk) 22:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete this allocation of resources is more equal then that one. Very vague. Legacypac (talk) 22:12, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Weak delete per WP:D2 confusing as WP:XY. {{-r|Greater than}} and {{-r|Greater than or equal}} target Inequality (mathematics), but no closer term such as more than or equal or more or equal. Despite the apparent (and in Orwell's case intentional) contradiction in terms, it can validly, if a little vaguely, be used to mean "nearer equality" or "greater equality" in many senses of "equality" (such as at The Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better), so I don't think any one stands out.

:That being said, I would have thought its current target is the most likely: but then, anyone knowing that derivation is more than equal to the task of searching for "Animal Farm", and anyone not knowing it can find out from a search, where currently Animal Farm sits as the fourth result (I don't know how much that is influenced by the redirect's presence). We don't have more-equal, fortunately. Si Trew (talk) 04:36, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

::For weak search topics like this, a wikipedia redirect+mirrors heavily influences Google results. Legacypac (talk) 06:57, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

:::Perhaps, but I meant a Wikipedia Special:Search; I didn't make that clear. Si Trew (talk) 04:00, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per WP:XY. I should also note that "More equal than others" also redirects users to Animal Farm, but I think the latter is different enough from More equal to deserve a separate discussion. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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==3pac==

:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = 3pac }} → :Tupac Shakur (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3pac&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/3pac stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:3pac|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3pac closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:3pac|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3pac closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:3pac|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#3pac closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Delete, aside from name similarity, 3pac has nothing to do with Tupac Shakur. 3pac was the pseudonym of YouTube rapper Ryan James Harryman. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/3pac Here's his Know Your Meme.] He's notable in the meme world for his feud with Eminem and rapping about Ebola. He ended up dying from a Water Polo incident a few months back and made the news. [http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/SJSU-water-polo-player-rapper-taken-off-life-6578357.php] [http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_29017097/san-jose-state-water-polo-player-ryan-harryman] I think an article can be written about him and I'm pretty sure that someone searching for "3pac" is looking for an article about Harryman and not about Tupac Shakur. Therefore, this should be redlinked to show that we have no information about 3pac. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per nominator. Probably also BLP1E as people who were not notable in life are typically not notable for their deaths. YMMV. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 04:37, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:07, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:31, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per nom. 3 pac 2 pac 1 pac none.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:47, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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==The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs==

:The result of the discussion was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 16:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs }} → :Humphrey School of Public Affairs (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Hubert_Humphrey_School_of_Public_Affairs&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/The%20Hubert%20Humphrey%20School%20of%20Public%20Affairs stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

And the other 22 found here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie/Neelix_list/5#Humphrey_School_of_Public_Affairs] incorporated by reference.
23 redirects to this target by Neelix in a row seems like way too many - kind of beating it to death while introducing erroneous versions of the name into the wild. I've not nominated the school's long form name (with and with out The). Legacypac (talk) 01:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Comment does the school use or once use these names, or does the public? -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 05:24, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Keep Hubert H. Humphrey School of Public Affairs / Hubert Humphrey School of Public Affairs / Humphrey School of Public Affairs ; since the article says it is the "Hubert H. Humphrey School of Public Affairs" so by reduction the other two should also be kept -- 70.51.200.135 (talk) 05:25, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
School goes by Humphrey School of Public Affairs (the article title, not part of the nom IP 70), or Humphrey School with a website of https://www.hhh.umn.edu/ Legacypac (talk) 05:56, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Delete all those with "Policy" in the title. The school is not entitled with "Policy", and "policy" is only mentioned once in the article, in the WP:FIRSTSENTENCE. No opinion (yet) on the others. Si Trew (talk) 07:31, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Keep all. They are not obviously wrong or confusing to readers and there is no reason to bloat the database with unnecessary deletion transactions.
Having said that, Si Trew, would you please elaborate on why you believe that the school is not entitled to include "policy"? Public Affairs and Public Policy are synonyms, are they not? Rossami (talk) 05:51, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I did not say they were not entitled to include "policy"; I said that the school is not entitled with "Policy"; i.e. that "Policy" is not part of their title. So it is WP:RFD#D5 nonsense to call it something which it is not called. Si Trew (talk) 04:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Deletions are simple and don't bloat the database. Incorrect names spread over the internet from Wikipedia. They make the right information harder to find by presenting a confusing array of options, which is the opposite of what redirects are supposed ro do. Legacypac (talk) 07:58, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Legacypac, but that is not true. Deletions do in fact add to the database. Granted, it's a small bloat (and considerably less than the debate we're having about it) but unless the redirect is harmful, they're unnecessary. Re: incorrect names - that is not a valid reason to delete a redirect. All redirects are "incorrect" by definition. If that were the right title for the page, that's where we'd put the main article. Furthermore, redirects are generally (though not always) suppressed by the websites that clone and/or scrape Wikipedia. And even the patently "wrong" redirects immediately take the reader to the "right" title. That is exactly what they're supposed to do. Rossami (talk) 03:50, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

:::::Incorrect names absolutely spread error on the internet. See [https://www.google.com/search?q=Anodynically&oq=Anodynically&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8] which took 2 seconds to spot on the Neelix list. See the discussion here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Check-in_on_Neelix_G6_speedy_criterion] and especially comments by User:Sphilbrick about the lack of damage deletion does. Legacypac (talk) 05:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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::::*Comment. By no means are all redirects are incorrect by definition. An {{tlx|R with possibilities}}, {{tlx|R from other spelling}} (as opposed to {{tlx|R from incorrect spelling}}), many {{tlx|R to section}}s, {{tlx|R to list entry}}s, {{tlx|R from short name}}s and so on are correct; we can imagine in a printed encyclopedia they would have head entries with "see at X" or some such. (That's why we have {{tlx|R printworthy}} and its opposite.) Si Trew (talk) 04:44, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Tupac Shakur Tattoos==

:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Tupac Shakur Tattoos }} → :Tupac Shakur (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tupac_Shakur_Tattoos&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Tupac%20Shakur%20Tattoos stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Tupac Shakur Tattoos|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tupac Shakur Tattoos closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tupac Shakur Tattoos|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tupac Shakur Tattoos closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tupac Shakur Tattoos|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tupac Shakur Tattoos closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Delete as misleading, since the article doesn't mention anything about tattoos. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete, unless someone adds information about his tattoos to the article. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete' as above (WP:RFD#D2 confusing). Si Trew (talk) 04:16, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete - I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per above. Of course adding info about the tattoos in the article is okay --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards==

:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 15:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards }} → :YWCA#Canada (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Young_Women%27s_Christian_Association_Women_of_Distinction_Awards&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Young%20Women%27s%20Christian%20Association%20Women%20of%20Distinction%20Awards stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction Awards closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction }} → :YWCA#Canada (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Young_Women%27s_Christian_Association_Woman_of_Distinction&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Young%20Women%27s%20Christian%20Association%20Woman%20of%20Distinction stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Woman of Distinction closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction }} → :YWCA#Canada (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Young_Women%27s_Christian_Association_Women_of_Distinction&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Young%20Women%27s%20Christian%20Association%20Women%20of%20Distinction stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Young Women's Christian Association Women of Distinction closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
And the other 12 variations found here [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anomie/Neelix_list/5#YWCA_Award_Redirects] are included in the nomination by reference.

As the article on YWCA says, they no longer use the old long name. They stopped long before the WOD awards were started in Canada. These redirects are just part of the Neelix redirect nonsense around Tara Teng (she was once nominated for the Vancouver version of the YWCA award). They are misleading and overkill. Legacypac (talk) 01:13, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Delete all, there should not be any links or redirects to the "Women of Disticntion" award. This is just Neelix COI spam. Softlavender (talk) 01:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Weak keep all. Directs people to where they should go (as far as I can tell), and are all R's to section discussing it (I've added the section links in the nom, above). If the root of this is the {{-r|Women of Distinction}} redirect (to same place) then we should tackle that: but that's not under discussion here (not even by reference). Si Trew (talk) 07:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

:::Oh there are a bunch more redirects by Neelix along these lines http://dispenser.homenet.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py?page=YWCA. I just picked out the Young Women's Christian Association ones for the reasons above as the silliest ones. Legacypac (talk) 08:24, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

::::Not all in that list are by Neelix. For example, {{-r|Agnes Blizzard}} was created by yourself in December 2015, even though its only use is in the target. Si Trew (talk) 13:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

::::::Never said they were all by Neelix, but the YWCA WOD ones are all his. Blizzard founded YWCA Canada. Legacypac (talk) 13:19, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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Delete per nom "no longer use the old long name. They stopped long before the WOD awards were started in Canada." I don't see why we direct an award-name that seems like a non-obvious search-phrase to an award that has never existed. DMacks (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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==NAPCHT==

:The result of the discussion was delete. Despite unambiguous, these abbreviations seem to be invented by the redirect creator and the redirects aren't being used by anybody. Der yck C. 22:36, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = NAPCHT }} → :National Action Plan to Combat Human Trafficking (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NAPCHT&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/NAPCHT stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:NAPCHT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NAPCHT closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:NAPCHT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NAPCHT closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:NAPCHT|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NAPCHT closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

{{no redirect|1 = NAP-CHT }} → :National Action Plan to Combat Human Trafficking (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NAP-CHT&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/NAP-CHT stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:NAP-CHT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NAP-CHT closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:NAP-CHT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NAP-CHT closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:NAPCHT|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NAP-CHT closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Part of Neelix's walled garden to promote anything Tara Teng got near. This abbreviation is not correct. National Action Plans are fairly common and get abbreviated as NAP-xxx Legacypac (talk) 00:32, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Keep. {{-r|NAP-CHT}} foes to the same target, and this is just {{tlx|R from incorrect punctuation}}. Si Trew (talk) 07:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Weak delete. On the one hand, I can't think of anything else these initials could point to. On the other hand, even Acronym Finder doesn't have them listed. Nor does Google return any non-Wikipedia-based hits (well, except for the chat group about napping). That leads me to conclude that this and the hyphenated variant are neologisms. Rossami (talk) 05:45, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Comment I've added NAP-CHT to this nom. My research confirms that Neelix appears to have made these up, and given that sex trafficking is a favorite advocacy topic of his and he has invented dozens of other sets of initials, it is quite likely these are made up to. I'm taking it out of the article as unsubstantiated. We should delete these as Wikipedia is not the place to coin new terms. Legacypac (talk) 05:59, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Keep the first as an obvious, unambiguous acronym. Weak delete the second, since hyphens aren't typically included in acronyms. --BDD (talk) 16:05, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Keep NAPCHT and delete NAP-CHT ~~as the former is a plausible search term~~ CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Comment - Is there any evidence at all that this acronym is actually used? If not, no matter how plausible it is, it's a neologism. And even by the loose standards we follow for redirects, that's a step too far. Rossami (talk) 05:44, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

::I could only find one use in a parliamentary record of one of these being used, and that was not official. It sure appears Neelix invented these, like so many other new words and acronyms. Legacypac (talk) 08:26, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Comment - Upon more thought, I agree to just go ahead and delete NAPCHT, particularly given how unlikely it is to be ever used and isn't used now (except here). CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:11, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Wikipedia:UT==

:The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Der yck C. 15:00, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{Oldrfdlist|Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_22#WP:UT → Category:Wikipedia|retarget to Wikipedia:Utilities}}

{{no redirect|1 = Wikipedia:UT }} → :Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Texas at Austin (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:UT&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Wikipedia%3AUT stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:UT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:UT closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:UT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:UT closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:UT|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:UT closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

This redirect has been retargeted a few times in the past, because the pages it previously redirected to either no longer exist or are no linger relevant. I recently used this, assuming it would go to something regarding User Talk pages, but instead it goes to a WikiProject that has been inactive for several years. There are only a few incoming links so cleanup after retargeting would not be overly cumbersome. The main question is exactly where to point it now? Beeblebrox (talk) 19:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as not needed and a surprise. Legacypac (talk) 19:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Retarget to WP:TP or disambiguate if there are other potentially expected targets. --Stefan2 (talk) 19:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Retarget to Wikipedia:WikiProject Utah - I was going to say keep per WP:IFITAINTBROKE but looking into this it seems it's more broken then it appears on the surface. I was wondering if this would make sense as a redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject Utah, and then discovered that project is currently using WP:UTA, which surprised me. We have UT = University of Texas at Austin, and UTA = Utah. It's backwards. The former target (see previous RfD) is no longer valid, it was merged into a different project several years ago. Therefore I think retargeting to the active WikiProject Utah is the correct action. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::(after ec) I also oppose creating a dab page for this. We don't normally do dabs in project space, and especially not for pseudospace shortcuts. If there are competing usages, the standard course of action is hatnotes. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguate. See {{section link|Wikipedia:Wikipedia abbreviations|Table of two-letter redirects}}. A dozen or so of these are disambiguations (e.g. WP:AA, WP:CU, WP:MD, WP:WS) and, given the history, this should become one of them, for the benefit of old and archived links. In September 2013, I added a hatnote on Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Texas at Austin. If the University of Texas project is inactive, then there's no primary topic any more. This was the original shortcut for {{no redirect|Wikipedia utilities}}, the forerunner of project namespace, before there was a Wikipedia: namespace. Through a series of moves and merges, the oldest history of {{no redirect|Wikipedia utilities}} is now at Wikipedia:Topical index (which redirects to Wikipedia:Editor's index to Wikipedia), so that should be included in the disambiguation, as well as {{no redirect|Wikipedia utilities}} (which redirects to Wikipedia:Project namespace) as the "main page" for the namespace that developed from the original WP:UT. Utah is welcome to join the dab. Wbm1058 (talk) 20:11, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::Well that's a good point. I've retracted my opposition to dabbing; I don't support it per se but it would be fine. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Super hard==

:The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈^(conjugate) 03:43, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Super hard }} → :Superhard material (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super_hard&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Super%20hard stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Super hard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super hard closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Super hard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super hard closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Super hard|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super hard closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Superhard }} → :Superhard material (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Superhard&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Superhard stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Superhard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super hard closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Superhard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super hard closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Superhard|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super hard closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] added Si Trew (talk) 02:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
{{no redirect|1 = Super-hard }} → :Superhard material (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Super-hard&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Super-hard stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Super hard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super-hard closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Super hard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super-hard closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Super-hard|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Super-hard closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] added Si Trew (talk) 02:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Also include Super-hard and Superhard These seem super vague. Math is super hard and so are plenty of other things like climbing Everest. Neelix inventions. Declined at CSD so bringing for discussion. Legacypac (talk) 18:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep - this is shorthand for material engineering nomenclature. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Comment. Is that true? I realise this is subjective, but I worked in materials science for several years and can't recall ever hearing of a material being called "a super hard" on it own (in the way we may call the cue ball in snooker just "the white" and not "the white ball"), or a superconducting material a "superconductor"). I'm inclined to think this is confusing, but my gsearch seems to suggest the term is more commonly used to describe an erection, and while WP:NOTCENSORED the term is not at that target and I feel a retarget there could be an unwanted WP:SURPRISE; but then, retargeting it to the current target is perhaps a surprise for those wanting information about erections . Si Trew (talk) 05:07, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

::*From the few university courses I did in materials engineering, "superhard" is certainly a descriptor for materials exceeding a certain hardness (the article defines it), and within the context of the course we did refer to them as "superhards" at times. That might be overly specific context, but I think probably safe. As for your Google search, internet results for things which may be pornographic terms are often very badly skewed toward the pornographic use rather than the real picture, so I would tend to discount that finding. Besides, in that context, "super hard" is entirely subjective. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:40, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep. While "super hard" can sometimes be idiomatic for "very difficult", it is a term of art in materials science. No one needs a link to explain "very difficult" but a link to the materials page will be very helpful when that's the context. Rossami (talk) 05:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep as above. Without prejudice I've marked them as {{tlx|R from adjective}}, and tagged and added the two others mentioned to the nom. Si Trew (talk) 02:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Volkswagen T2==

:The result of the discussion was keep all. Der yck C. 14:58, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Volkswagen T2 }} → :Volkswagen Type 2 (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volkswagen_T2&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Volkswagen%20T2 stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Volkswagen T2|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Volkswagen T2 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Volkswagen T2|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Volkswagen T2 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Volkswagen T2|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Volkswagen T2 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

I'm not an expert on this van. Do these redirects all make sense? They all target the same subsection of the article. Legacypac (talk) 18:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

:This may be the "exception that proves the rule". These vehicles were indeed known by a variety of names around the world. The plural ones are a bit silly, I could see zapping those, but the singular ones are pretty much accurate. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep everything from {{no redirect|1=Volkswagen T2b Kombi}} and up as valid synonyms (per Beeblebrox)~~, delete the rest as unnecessary pluralizations which pollute search results~~. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
See RFD#KEEP 7. Redirects for pluralization are not merely allowed but often encouraged. They do not "pollute" search results. Rossami (talk) 05:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I think you mean WP:RFD#K6, keep 7 refers to something else. I'll give you that one, it is true that we used to recommend that plural redirects should be created. I disagree with that advice as I think it's counterproductive to have 23 slight modification redirects to one topic, but it's community advice nonetheless. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:32, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, consensus can change; we also used to have advice for adding {{tlx|R from other capitalization}}s, and I think there's still advice for adding {{tlx|R to diacritics}} (which doesn't seem necessary any more, although I don't know what collation order WP uses for its search). I can see the point in adding redirects for plurals that don't form in the basic +s or +es way (e.g. Greek or Latin plurals) but, ad abserdem, it would mean having a redirect for every article title that is a common noun. Perhaps we should start a thread (at Si Trew (talk) 04:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Not a bad idea. Might be a good idea to have that discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) so that folks with more insight on the workings of the search engine can see it and weigh in. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
My error. I did mean #K6. Apparently I need to get my glasses checked. I don't think it's appropriate to change that advice, however. It has nothing to do with search and everything to do with capturing the links created by editors who don't know that you can link with word-fragments (like a trailing s) outside the brackets. Letting those links turn red frustrates new users and results in the creation of unnecessary duplicate articles. Rossami (talk) 05:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep - These vehicles do have a large amount of confusingly different names. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:40, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Fuckingly==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:22, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{Oldrfdlist|Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_August_26#Fucker|recategorize}}

{{no redirect|1 = Fuckingly }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fuckingly&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Fuckingly stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fuckingly|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuckingly closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fuckingly|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuckingly closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fuckingly|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fuckingly closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Effingly }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effingly&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Effingly stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Effingly|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effingly closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Effingly|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effingly closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Effingly|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effingly closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Effers }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effers&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Effers stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Effers|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effers closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Effers|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effers closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Effers|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effers closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Effer }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effer&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Effer stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Effer|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effer closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Effer|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effer closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Effer|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effer closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Effs }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effs&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Effs stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Effs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effs closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Effs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effs closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Effs|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effs closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Effed }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effed&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Effed stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Effed|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effed closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Effed|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effed closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Effed|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effed closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Effing }} → :Fuck (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Effing&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Effing stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Effing|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effing closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Effing|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effing closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Effing|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Effing closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

How do people feel about this batch of Neelix redirects? I'm good with trashing them as this is not the Urban Dictionary. Legacypac (talk) 18:31, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete - probably not helpful. Probably refer to the current target but some could just as well refer to heifer as a euphemism. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete: Don't seem likely synonyms. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:41, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Unlawful possession of ammunitions==

:The result of the discussion was delete both. In the latter part of the discussion, it has been shown that the double error of *ammunitions → munitions → weapon is so much that it is not in the best interest of the reader to keep these redirects. Der yck C. 14:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Unlawful possession of ammunitions }} → :Criminal possession of a weapon (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unlawful_possession_of_ammunitions&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Unlawful%20possession%20of%20ammunitions stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Unlawful possession of ammunitions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Unlawful possession of ammunitions closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Unlawful possession of ammunitions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Unlawful possession of ammunitions closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Unlawful possession of ammunitions|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Unlawful possession of ammunitions closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Illegal possession of ammunitions }} → :Criminal possession of a weapon (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Illegal_possession_of_ammunitions&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Illegal%20possession%20of%20ammunitions stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Illegal possession of ammunitions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Illegal possession of ammunitions closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Illegal possession of ammunitions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Illegal possession of ammunitions closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Illegal possession of ammunitions|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Illegal possession of ammunitions closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

These were speedy deleted as part of the Neelix cleanup, but now restored at the request of an editor. Sending for full discussion at RfD They are grammatically incorrect to start with. Legacypac (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Strong keep. As I pointed out in the request to which Legacypac refers, these are plausible misreadings of phrases like "Illegal possession of munitions", which is a recognized, contemporary criminal offense. (See, e.g., [2], [3], [4].) "Munitions" is a less common word than "ammunition", and the misuse is quite plausible. It's one thing to scour Neelix's hordes of synonyms for "hooters" from Wikipedia; it's quite another to indiscriminately remove anything he might have written without properly checking its appropriateness. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by admins since 2006. (talk) 23:03, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
keep both - no policy-compliant rationale for deletion has been presented. "They are grammatically incorrect to start with." is not a justification; many redirects are from typos, grammatical errors etc. and that is just fine. Redirects are cheap and are there to help readers find the information they are seeking. Plausible search terms. WP:RFD#HARMFUl describes our policy. Just Chilling (talk) 00:44, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Keep both as plausible search terms. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:55, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

::Ammunition is not equal to weapon. Legacypac (talk) 03:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Delete per nom. See also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 November 25#Ammunition possession. I see the argument that this could be a mistake for "munitions", but note that Munitions possession, Possession of munitions, Unlawful possession of munitions, and Illegal possession of munitions are all red, which suggests that this is not a problem. Ammunition isn't discussed at the target article at all. Are there laws about possession of ammunition? I don't know; despite what these redirects promise, Wikipedia doesn't have the answer for me, or for any of our readers. Please think of them first. --BDD (talk) 16:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 18:21, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per nom and BDD. Besides all the technical errors, these are also factually incorrect, as ammunitions /= weapons. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per BDD's points. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Weak delete as WP:RFD#D2 confusing, "ammunition" not being at the target.

:Ammunition can be considered as a weapon in some jurisdictions, just as can, say, a projectile such as an egg: but then we don't have {{-r|Illegal possession of an egg}}. Whether something is a weapon is often a question of criminal intent (e.g. is a knife a weapon?), and a question put to the jury; it's not the possession but the (intended) use that makes it a weapon (and we don't have {{-r|Criminal use of an egg}} either).

:I think the previous argument was largely about sending the more-general "possession" to the more-specific "criminal possession"; not about sending a more-specific weapon to a more-general one. It's better to split those two arguments out. Si Trew (talk) 05:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per BDD.—Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 07:41, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Exoticisations==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Exoticisations }} → :Exoticism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Exoticisations&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Exoticisations stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Exoticisations|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exoticisations closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Exoticisations|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exoticisations closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Exoticisations|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exoticisations closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Exoticisation }} → :Exoticism (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Exoticisation&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Exoticisation stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Exoticisation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exoticisation closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Exoticisation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exoticisation closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Exoticisation|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exoticisation closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
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No way these words or made up words all refer to this target primarily. Legacypac (talk) 18:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete all as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Exotical==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:07, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Nonsense I think. Legacypac (talk) 18:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete - exotic is already an adjective, it doesn't need this nonsense adjective-form modification. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:29, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:43, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==The Apprentice 15==

:The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator, Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 22:35, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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Appears implausible, recently created: would be interested in opinions on this. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep, probably. It's supposedly also known as "The Apprentice 15", and that title is not ambiguous with any other show as far as I know. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::The term is in the first sentence as Also known as. Correct? Don't know. Legacypac (talk) 18:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep. I added this redirect due to the wording of the article's first sentence. Also, I watch this program regularly and have heard other viewers refer to the show as The Apprentice #. Lord Laitinen (talk) (requests) 22:29, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Masterbates==

:The result of the discussion was split. I find consensus to delete "masterbational" and "masterbationally" but no consensus for the grammatical variants "masterbates", "masterbated" and "masterbatory". Arguments in violation of Wikipedia policy were discounted. Rossami (talk) 00:17, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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These are all misspelled AND stupid. Legacypac (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep masterbates as a borderline likely search term, delete the rest as too unlikely. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete all - we already have masterbate (not nominated here) as a standard plausible error redirect, all of the rest are superfluous. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete all. I think it's counterproductive to keep {{tl|R from incorrect title}} and {{tl|R from misspelling}} to topics with social stigma surrounding them. Der yck C. 17:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep {{-r|masterbates}}, {{-r|masterbated}} and {{-r|masterbatory}} as {[tlx|R from incorrect spelling}}; 'delete {{-r|masterbational}} and {{-r|masterbationally}} as WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. I note with some surprise that Master Bates seems never to have been created. Si Trew (talk) 04:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep 'masterbates' but otherwise I would delete them all, as even if some like 'masterbatory' might be borderline they still appear pretty useless CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:52, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Masturbational==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 19:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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These represent Neelix playing with words - not good search terms. Legacypac (talk) 18:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Wankstain==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 19:35, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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{{no redirect|1 = Wankily }} → :Wanker (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wankily&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Wankily stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wankily|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wankily closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wankily|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wankily closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wankily|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wankily closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]*{{no redirect|1 = Wankiest }} → :Wanker (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wankiest&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Wankiest stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wankiest|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wankiest closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wankiest|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wankiest closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wankiest|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wankiest closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Wanks }} → :Masturbation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wanks&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Wanks stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wanks|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wanks closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wanks|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wanks closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wanks|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wanks closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Wanked }} → :Masturbation (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wanked&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Wanked stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wanked|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wanked closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wanked|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wanked closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wanked|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wanked closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] Legacypac (talk) 17:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Okay, honestly, these are getting rejected for speedy deletion? What the actual fuck? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::I did not submit for speedy because even more stupid terms do get rejected at CSD and because there is still a post at the top of ANi slamming me about my supposed vendetta against Neelix so the community can look at this stuff and form a consensus. These show we are not done the cleanup yet cause his wank stains remain all over the project. Legacypac (talk) 18:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

:::This is ridiculous. Someone pull the trigger on these, please. What a waste of our time. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 18:06, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete all as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Cut up==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Cut up }} → :Cut-up technique (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cut_up&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Cut%20up stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cut up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cut up closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cut up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cut up closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cut up|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cut up closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Cutting up }} → :Cut-up technique (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cutting_up&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Cutting%20up stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cutting up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cutting up closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cutting up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cutting up closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cutting up|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cutting up closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Cutting-up }} → :Cut-up technique (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cutting-up&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Cutting-up stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cutting-up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cutting-up closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cutting-up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cutting-up closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cutting-up|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cutting-up closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Cuts up }} → :Cut-up technique (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cuts_up&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Cuts%20up stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cuts up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cuts up closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cuts up|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cuts up closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cuts up|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cuts up closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

These look like nonsense, sending a common English phrase at a special technique most people have never heard of. Even Cut up is not meaningful in this context without the word technique, except within a discussion of the technique. Legacypac (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as there is no suitable target. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:46, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Fish bowling==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 19:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Fish bowling }} → :Cut-up technique (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fish_bowling&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Fish%20bowling stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fish bowling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fish bowling closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fish bowling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fish bowling closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fish bowling|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fish bowling closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Fish bowled }} → :Cut-up technique (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fish_bowled&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Fish%20bowled stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fish bowled|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fish bowled closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fish bowled|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fish bowled closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fish bowled|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fish bowled closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Makes no sense to me, Legacypac (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete - what? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Aquaristical==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 19:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Aquaristical }} → :Fishkeeping (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aquaristical&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Aquaristical stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Aquaristical|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aquaristical closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Aquaristical|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aquaristical closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Aquaristical|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aquaristical closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Aquaristically }} → :Fishkeeping (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aquaristically&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Aquaristically stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Aquaristically|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aquaristically closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Aquaristically|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aquaristically closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Aquaristically|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aquaristically closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Neelix word play Legacypac (talk) 17:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Chokeholder==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 19:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Chokeholder }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chokeholder&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Chokeholder stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Chokeholder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chokeholder closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Chokeholder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chokeholder closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Chokeholder|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chokeholder closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Choke holder }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Choke_holder&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Choke%20holder stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Choke holder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choke holder closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Choke holder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choke holder closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Choke holder|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choke holder closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Strangleholder }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strangleholder&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Strangleholder stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Strangleholder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangleholder closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Strangleholder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangleholder closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Strangleholder|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangleholder closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Strangle holder }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strangle_holder&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Strangle%20holder stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Strangle holder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangle holder closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Strangle holder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangle holder closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Strangle holder|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangle holder closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Chokeholders }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chokeholders&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Chokeholders stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Chokeholders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chokeholders closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Chokeholders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chokeholders closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Chokeholders|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chokeholders closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Choke holders }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Choke_holders&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Choke%20holders stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Choke holders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choke holders closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Choke holders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choke holders closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Choke holders|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choke holders closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Strangleholders }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strangleholders&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Strangleholders stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Strangleholders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangleholders closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Strangleholders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangleholders closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Strangleholders|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangleholders closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Strangle holders }} → :Chokehold (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Strangle_holders&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Strangle%20holders stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Strangle holders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangle holders closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Strangle holders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangle holders closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Strangle holders|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Strangle holders closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

What is the purpose of these Neelix wordplay redirects? When rarely used they refer to figurative holding of something mobilized, like the government or a drug caertel, not the target. Legacypac (talk) 17:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as implausible. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Christmas shops==

:The result of the discussion was no consensus. An actual article on the idea of a Christmas shop would be an improvement, however. --BDD (talk) 16:44, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Christmas shops }} → :Economics of Christmas (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christmas_shops&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Christmas%20shops stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Christmas shops|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Christmas shops closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Christmas shops|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Christmas shops closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Christmas shops|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Christmas shops closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Christmas shop }} → :Economics of Christmas (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christmas_shop&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Christmas%20shop stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Christmas shop|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Christmas shop closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Christmas shop|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Christmas shop closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Christmas shop|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Christmas shop closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

This is a store(s) that sells Christmas stuff. Better target? Legacypac (talk) 23:44, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Delete as inaccurate and misleading. Softlavender (talk) 23:50, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Christmas market is closer. That article currently implies that all such markets are transient - a statement that I think is not true but will have to research before correcting. Either way, it's less bad than the "economics of" page. But even the "economics of" page is better than a redlink. Rossami (talk) 05:35, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Comment: I believe these were created as variations of "Christmas shopping" which also redirects there. I don't think the current target is "bad," you'd learn about Christmas shops there, though it's certainly not perfect. I think the status quo is better than Christmas market, since that article deals with a German tradition. -- Tavix ^(talk) 14:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

::Interesting history on Christmas shopping: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christmas_shopping&action=history Neelix targeted that page to :Economics of Christmas too at I believe the same time, which gives me no confidence that it is a good precedent for these two. Legacypac (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:56, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep as appears to lead to a suitable target. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Ignacio Polanco==

:The result of the discussion was procedural close. Thanks to Ivanvector for starting an article. --BDD (talk) 20:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Ignacio Polanco }} → :es:Ignacio Polanco (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ignacio_Polanco&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Ignacio%20Polanco stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ignacio Polanco|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ignacio Polanco closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ignacio Polanco|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ignacio Polanco closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ignacio Polanco|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ignacio Polanco closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

From Wikipedia:Soft redirect: "Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they will generally be unhelpful to English-language readers." Fram (talk) 15:47, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Translateify - I've very roughly done so below the redirect. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Translte per Ivanvector, otherwise default to Delete in such cases. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:53, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::FWIW I agree - foreign-language soft redirects are generally unhelpful. and possibly harmful assuming a reader of English Wikipedia reads only English. But roughly machine translating these is sometimes a better option, if they're notable topics. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Socio-technically==

:The result of the discussion was delete. There's weak consensus to do so, and no agreement on where the terms could best point. If they're reestablished, as redirects or dabs, it might be easier to have a "clean" discussion on them, without the Neelix context. --BDD (talk) 16:43, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Socio-technically }} → :Sociotechnical system (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Socio-technically&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Socio-technically stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Socio-technically|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technically closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Socio-technically|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technically closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Socio-technically|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technically closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Sociotechnically }} → :Sociotechnical system (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sociotechnically&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Sociotechnically stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sociotechnically|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnically closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sociotechnically|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnically closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sociotechnically|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnically closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Sociotechnic }} → :Social engineering (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sociotechnic&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Sociotechnic stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sociotechnic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnic closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sociotechnic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnic closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sociotechnic|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnic closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] added by Si Trew (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
{{no redirect|1 = Socio-technic }} → :Social engineering (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Socio-technic&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Socio-technic stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Socio-technic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technic closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Socio-technic|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technic closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Socio-technic|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technic closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] added by Si Trew (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
{{no redirect|1 = Socio-technics }} → :Social engineering (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Socio-technics&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Socio-technics stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Socio-technics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technics closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Socio-technics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technics closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Socio-technics|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Socio-technics closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] added by Si Trew (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
{{no redirect|1 = Sociotechnics }} → :Social engineering (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sociotechnics&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Sociotechnics stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sociotechnics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnics closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sociotechnics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnics closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sociotechnics|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sociotechnics closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] added by Si Trew (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I suggest a soft redirect to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sociotechnically Not sure how to do this. Legacypac (talk) 03:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Retarget to Social engineering (political science), where {{-r|sociotechnician}} and {{-r|socio-technician}} go. Although considering the listing below, perhaps they shouldn't, but instead to sociotechnical system (i.e. essentially switching the targets of these two redirects and the two below). Si Trew (talk) 11:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Comment on the other hand, {{-r|sociotechnics}} and {{-r|Socio-technics}}, and their singulars, all → Social engineering, a TWODABS with (political science) and (security) as entries. These were all created on 18 April 2013 by Neelix as redirects to sociotechnical system, and retargeted by the nominator at 05:30 on 23 January 2016 (today), a couple of hours after this was listed. Si Trew (talk) 12:15, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Comment these are all quite rare or coined compound words that mostly seem to have poorly defined meanings. When writers use them they are talking about the intersection between technology and society in some context and feel the need to roll out a fancy word. I got a whole bunch of the worst (like 8 google hits) deleted at CSD. Given the speed of creation and non-existence of some of the terms I'm sure he simply pulled them all from his butt with no research. Therefore please don't use the targets of some of these words to justify how others should be targeted - let's start from the assumption they are all wrong until proven correct. Legacypac (talk) 19:33, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

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Delete as none of these appear to be realistic search terms. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Occasional==

:The result of the discussion was delete. The general consensus is that there isn't a best target and we shouldn't create disambig / soft redirects for every real word. Der yck C. 14:52, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{Oldrfdlist|Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_December_2#Occasionability|retarget from Occasionalism to Occasion}}

{{no redirect|1 = Occasional }} → :Occasion (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occasional&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Occasional stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Occasional|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Occasional closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Occasional|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Occasional closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Occasional|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Occasional closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Occasional does not mean occasion except in one sense. Better target? Legacypac (talk) 05:59, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Retarget to occasionalism? -- Notecardforfree (talk) 08:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

::User:Notecardforfree, it was you who suggested retargeting away from there! Si Trew (talk) 06:49, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

:::Ha! Wow! I can't believe I forgot about the earlier RfD ... it's only me, it's not my mind, that is confusing things. I've struck my vote and I'm going to change it to a weak keep (out respect for my own vote at the previous RfD), though I think that creating a DAB page could would also be a good idea. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

~~Weak keep~~struck Si Trew (talk) 04:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC), that's where {{-r|Occasionally}} also goes; the previous RfD actually resulted in it being retargeted from User:Notecardforfree's suggestion. Although I'm mindful of WP:NOTDIC, I could see this being being DABbed, with Occasional Oratorio, Occasional table, Occasional poetry, Occasional song, Occasional day and so on. But that is doing little more than the search already does. Perhaps we should expand the existing target DAB? There's no mention of "occasional" there, so as it stands this is a bit WP:RFD#D2 confusing. Si Trew (talk) 05:51, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Keep per the previous discussion. I still feel "occasion" is the best target for it. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:58, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

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Delete and do not dab - we're chasing a dictionary definition here. I'm opposed to disambiguation because dabs are not for indexing partial title matches. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete per Ivanvector. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:55, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete, WP:NOTDIC and WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target, WP:PTM. Search will do it. Si Trew (talk) 04:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Soft retarget to Wiktionary:occasional. More useful than deletion. Steel1943 (talk) 16:11, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

::But is it? A redirect trumps search results, and I think those results are more useful. To get the search results one must summon up :Special:Search, but none of the UI "search" elements does that, at least for me. Si Trew (talk) 05:17, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

:::Si Trew, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_February_3&diff=703116143&oldid=703115853 this]. Steel1943 (talk) 05:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

::::I'm aware that {{tlx|Wiktionary redirect}} includes a WP link search, but that is one click farther than without the redirect at all. At some point we do have to just say "Wikipedia is not a dictionary", disappointing though it may be to some readers.

::::For naive readers who expect WP to be a dictionary, it is I guess more surprising that for some words WP has this "suggest Wiktionary" and for others it doesn't (i.e. "just" brings up search results). Those readers could well not be aware that the behaviour was coded for each individual word-form (i.e. as a soft redirect). What could be nice, maybe, is if it were automatic for WP to include wikt search results for exact matches, in the same style as {{tlx|wikt}}, at the top of the search results. (A bit like how some search engines do sponsored links – prominent but not in-yer-face). But that would need a change to the search front end, I guess: something for the village pump maybe. Si Trew (talk) 19:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

:::::A fair question for VPP maybe. If we did decide that Wiktionary redirects are useful, it would likely be a simple thing to program a bot to create them for every word in the dictionary which doesn't have an article already. For an example, see [https://twitter.com/everyword this Twitter bot] which tweeted every word in the English language over the course of seven years, or [https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword this one] (possibly NSFW) which is tweeting one particular word in front of every other one. But would that be beneficial? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per Si Trew. I think search results could be meaningful for readers here, and I think we're better off resorting to Wiktionary only when that's not the case. --BDD (talk) 16:40, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Disney collusion litigation==

:The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈^(conjugate) 06:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Disney collusion litigation }} → :Criticism of The Walt Disney Company#Collusion to replace employees with H-1B holders (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disney_collusion_litigation&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Disney%20collusion%20litigation stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Disney collusion litigation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Disney collusion litigation closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Disney collusion litigation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Disney collusion litigation closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Disney collusion litigation|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Disney collusion litigation closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Google search reveals one headline that uses this in addition to this Wikipedia redirect. Not a logical search term and even if it was this would not be the logical target. Mrfrobinson (talk) 14:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as there appears to be no suitable target. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 18:56, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep - one of Twinkle's failures is that it still does not recognize section redirects. This one links to Criticism of The Walt Disney Company#Collusion to replace employees with H-1B holders, which is exactly the right target for this redirect. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:26, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

:I agree with the Twinkle failure but should every lawsuit that Disney is hit with have a redirect? Especially a lawsuit that was just filed. Google searches for "disney collusion" do not yield anything tangible. This is a redirect in lieu of an article based on a 24 hour news cycle. Wikipedia is not a news source and shouldn't be treated as one. Mrfrobinson (talk) 23:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::I agree with your sentiment, but the information on the lawsuit is in fact in the article, at the section targeted by this redirect. A redirect's purpose is to get readers to the information they're looking for. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 23:20, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep. Section redirect of a topic covered in reliable sources. Meets RPURPOSE, and redirects are cheap. --Regards, James(^talk/_contribs) 21:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep per Ivanvector and James. I've marked the target as {{tlx|R to section}}, and added the section to the nom above. Si Trew (talk) 04:48, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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==WikiProject Med Foundation==

:The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈^(conjugate) 06:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = WikiProject Med Foundation }} → :James Heilman (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Med_Foundation&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/WikiProject%20Med%20Foundation stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:WikiProject Med Foundation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WikiProject Med Foundation closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:WikiProject Med Foundation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WikiProject Med Foundation closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:WikiProject Med Foundation|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WikiProject Med Foundation closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Pollution of namespace, confusion with Wikiprojects. Not noteworthy enough to warrant even a redirect, and redirect article James Heilman does not even have a section on the Wikiproject, only some minor sentenced comments that are trivial at best. Aeonx (talk) 09:01, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Keep. This is not the same as a WP:WikiProject. He is the Founder and former President, and it is mentioned four times in the article, and nowhere else on Wikipedia except a passing mention at Healthcare Information For All. See also Wiki Project Med Foundation. -- Softlavender (talk) 09:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete: In addition to the nom, likely to cause confusion to those not familiar with the Wikipedia: namespace. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep per Softlavender. This is an entity external to Wikipedia and is discussed at this target. It is unfortunately named in a way similar to a prominent on-wiki usage (for WikiProjects) but we can't control that, nor should we try to. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep per above. It's not ambiguous because we don't have a WikiProject by that name: Wikipedia:WikiProject Med Foundation. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::I will also mention that in the article, "Wiki Project" is two words. I couldn't find it at first because I was searching for "WikiProject." Probably doesn't affect the redirect, but noting in case anyone has the same problem. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==One horse==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = One horse }} → :One-horse shay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=One_horse&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/One%20horse stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:One horse|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#One horse closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:One horse|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#One horse closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:One horse|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#One horse closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = One-horse }} → :One-horse shay (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=One-horse&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/One-horse stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:One-horse|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#One-horse closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:One-horse|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#One-horse closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:One-horse|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#One-horse closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

I expected one horse town but there are plenty of things that are one horse. Legacypac (talk) 08:56, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as incorrect and misleading. There are many vehicles involving one horse. And also "one-horse town" and so on. Softlavender (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per above points. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:22, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Good ale==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Good ale }} → :Goodale (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Good_ale&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Good%20ale stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Good ale|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Good ale closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Good ale|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Good ale closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Good ale|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Good ale closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

No one should search for Good ale (a quality drink) to get to a surname. Legacypac (talk) 08:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete. Jeez. Softlavender (talk) 09:28, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Gabbling==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Gabbling }} → :Babbling (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabbling&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Gabbling stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gabbling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbling closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gabbling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbling closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gabbling|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbling closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Gabbled }} → :Babbling (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabbled&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Gabbled stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gabbled|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbled closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gabbled|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbled closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gabbled|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbled closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Gabbler }} → :Babbling (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabbler&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Gabbler stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gabbler|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbler closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gabbler|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbler closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gabbler|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbler closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
{{no redirect|1 = Gabbles }} → :Babbling (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabbles&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Gabbles stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gabbles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbles closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gabbles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbles closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gabbles|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gabbles closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Neelix word play. These terms have quite distinct meanings. Legacypac (talk) 07:32, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete all. Neelix nonsense. Softlavender (talk) 07:49, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete all as implausible. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete all. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Middling==

:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted Beeblebrox (talk) 20:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Middling }} → :Mediocrity principle (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Middling&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Middling stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Middling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Middling closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Middling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Middling closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Middling|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Middling closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Neelix word association game. Don't think this is a very good match. Any better choices? Legacypac (talk) 04:09, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete as completely inaccurate and misleading. Softlavender (talk) 07:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per above points. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:26, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete WP:NOTDIC. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:17, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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==China National Highway 228==

:The result of the discussion was accept draft. Renaming the existing article is a possible further step; I'll leave that outside the scope of this closure. Der yck C. 10:59, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = China National Highway 228 }} → :China National Highway 228 (1981) (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China_National_Highway_228&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/China%20National%20Highway%20228 stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:China National Highway 228|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#China National Highway 228 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:China National Highway 228|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#China National Highway 228 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:China National Highway 228|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#China National Highway 228 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

WP:REDLINK there is no article on the current corresponding highway. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 01:20, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete per WP:REDLINK. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Stubbify otherwise someone will try moving China National Highway 228 (1981) to the primary, which just generates confusion. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 12:51, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep - oh my, is it ever hard to find information on this! Wikipedia and its mirrors are certainly polluting the Google results here. Basically I can't find any information at all on China's 2013 highways plan, except what might be a source in Chinese but I don't read it and can't get Google to translate it. That said, even if we could stubbify it, none of the other proposed new routes in the plan (basically G228 and up) have articles, because there's no info about them. So I think it's best to leave this target as it is for now. WP:REDLINK doesn't apply if there's not an article possible on the topic, in my opinion. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Comment I did a translation of :zh:228国道 at Draft:China National Highway 228. It's not a great stub but there seem to be some more sources available if you search for that Chinese title in site:gov.cn, I'll keep expanding it over the course of this week. 58.176.246.42 (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep or reverse the redirect. Until an article is written on the subject, the 1981 Highway remains the primary topic on Wikipedia, even if it isn't the primary topic in real life. Deleting this redirect would only make it harder to find the 1981 highway. --{{user|Tavix}} 16:21, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Move the draft over the redirect—and much thanks for that, IP. And while not exactly related to this discussion, I'd say move the current target article to China National Highway 228 (Taiwan), which is a more WP:RECOGNIZABLE disambiguator. "1981" is oblique. I assume it's the year it was proposed, but that's not included in the article now. Looking over Highway system in Taiwan, the actual Taiwan wouldn't have a highway 228 anyway, and we can always hatnote there. --BDD (talk) 16:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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==Svenska==

:The result of the discussion was retarget to Swedish. (non-admin closure) sst✈^(conjugate) 06:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

{{no redirect|1 = Svenska }} → :Swedish language (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Svenska&action=history history] · [http://stats.grok.se/en/latest60/Svenska stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Svenska|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Svenska closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Svenska|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Svenska closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Svenska|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Svenska closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Improper redirect target. The word svenska can refer to the language or to a female Swedish person, and it can also be used as an adjective. Retarget to Swedish. Stefan2 (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Retarget to Swedish per nom. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Retarget per nom. Montanabw ^(talk)|GO THUNDER! 00:00, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Weak retarget. :sv:svenska is about the language, not the people (and doesn't hatnote to a DAB); but Swedish morphological markers are not something English speakers should need to know, and we can't kinda do {{tlx|R from other grammatical gender}} to Swedish people: same kind of discussion we had for {{-r|Nederlandse}}. I think this reasoning can apply for a lot of language redirects of this form, but they do have to be taken one-by-one because not all have a DAB page like this one.

~~:warning: retargeting this will require a lot of changes to articles that have etymology, probably.~~ Si Trew (talk) 05:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

:Actually, there was only one use in mainspace, in the infobox at Active Worlds; I've changed that to WP:USEENGLISH {{diff|diff=703051576|oldid=694500104|label=here}} (and for Hungarian, Italian and Spanish; the other languages were already in English). Si Trew (talk) 05:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

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