Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 18#Neisha Pratt

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:The result of the discussion was move disambiguation page over redirect. Deryck C. 17:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = Florentine }} → :Florentine biscuit  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Florentine&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Florentine stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Florentine|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Florentine closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Florentine|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Florentine closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Florentine|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Florentine closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Retarget to Florence. Redirect existing since 2003 was changed recently to point to the cookie, with the edit summary "clear primary usage". As Florence has given us many, many notable topics (type "florentine" in the search box and see what autocompletes) I strongly disagree that a Florentine biscuit is a WP:PRIMARYTARGET here. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Is this a British thing? The user who retargeted is Chiswick Chap,^(ping) so maybe so. To my American ears, "Florentine" makes me think of spinach first, and then something associated with the city. Moving Florentine (disambiguation) over the redirect is an option if we think there's no primary topic. --BDD (talk) 20:50, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose: Well, Florentine means the food all over Europe, from Sweden to France certainly, not only in Britain, so if it was a matter of international spread and the largest number of countries, there'd be no contest. I note that googling "Florentine America" returns pictures of the cookies, exactly as I had expected, so the cookie usage is on BOTH sides of the Atlantic. I've never heard anyone call an inhabitant of Florence by this name, whatever they did in Shakespeare's time; they just say "people from Florence". The other possible meanings strike me as far behind (search engines throwing up remnants indeed of many obsolete and quaint historical usages), and I confess I never heard of its meaning anything to do with spinach at all. So I'm indeed surprised to be commenting here. I also can't see any difficulty with having Florentine (disambiguation) as a comfortable home for all the other meanings. Redirecting to Florence I consider simply silly: the two terms cover wildly different things. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:23, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

::Careful, Google has generally gotten less reliable for geographic measures as it tries to customize results. Only two of the top 9 results are related to the cookie when I do the search. There are also a couple of spinach dishes, and some other disparate results. --BDD (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

• Move Florentine (disambiguation) over {{No redirect|Florentine}}. Too many possible notable uses. I now want spinach ... the use that comes to my mind first. Steel1943 (talk) 21:36, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

::This would work too. Strangely I didn't find the disambiguation page, or I might have suggested that. I didn't have any primary topic in mind for this, I just happened to be surprised when I clicked on a link describing someone from Florence in the middle ages and ended up on a page about a biscuit. And yes, I would now also like to have Eggs Florentine for dinner. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 22:02, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Move Florentine (disambiguation) to {{No redirect|Florentine}} per Steel1943.—Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 02:07, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
• Replace with disambiguation page -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 06:52, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
• Move dab page to redirect per Steel --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:37, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
• Move the dab over the redirect. This looks to be sufficiently ambiguous for a global encyclopedia. --BDD (talk) 18:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
• Move the dab over the redirect, per other demonym pages--Prisencolin (talk) 02:34, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
• Move dab page to redirect per above. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 22:12, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 15:13, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = Castle of Montalegre }} → :Montalegre Castle  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Castle_of_Montalegre&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Castle_of_Montalegre stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Castle of Montalegre|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Castle of Montalegre closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Castle of Montalegre|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Castle of Montalegre closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Castle of Montalegre|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Castle of Montalegre closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

no needd. Winterysteppe (talk) 17:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Keep. Redirect points at the correct target and is harmless. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:04, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
• Keep WP:CHEAP -- it is a castle called Montalegre -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 06:53, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = 2018-19 UEFA Europa League }} → :UEFA Europa League  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2018-19_UEFA_Europa_League&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=2018-19_UEFA_Europa_League stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:2018-19 UEFA Europa League|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2018-19 UEFA Europa League closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:2018-19 UEFA Europa League|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2018-19 UEFA Europa League closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:2018-19 UEFA Europa League|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2018-19 UEFA Europa League closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

I think this, even being a redirect, is WP:TOOSOON. UEFA current regulations end for the 2017-18 season and it is not even confirmed this season will be played (however very likely). Also no article currently links to it, so we dont have reason to keep it to avoid redlinks. Has been speedily deleted in September 2015. Qed237 (talk) 14:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 20:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. As above, no evidence that this will exist (UEFA could change the format/names after all). Joseph2302 (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
• Delete - far too soon, and adds nothing as a redirect. GiantSnowman 09:54, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
• Delete - While this obviously should exist at some point, I have to agree that it's WP:TOOSOON. Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:22, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
• Delete - Despite the fact that redirects are WP:CHEAP, this one is far WP:TOOSOON, especially given that the regulations have not been published. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 09:28, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was move draft over the redirect. --BDD (talk) 18:45, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = Neisha Pratt }} → :Hong Kong women's national cricket team  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neisha_Pratt&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Neisha_Pratt stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Neisha Pratt|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Neisha Pratt closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Neisha Pratt|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Neisha Pratt closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Neisha Pratt|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Neisha Pratt closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Pointless redirect – target contains no information on the subject. IgnorantArmies (talk) 09:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Delete as not mentioned in the target article. As a sidenote, she's played for Hong Kong women's national cricket team previously, so could probably have an actual article written about her. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
• Comment I'm now drafting an article about her at Draft:Neisha Pratt (she passes WP:NCRIC), so this redirect should definitely be deleted, to allow me to place the draft into article space. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:10, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = Hinduism in Djibouti }} → :Djibouti  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinduism_in_Djibouti&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hinduism_in_Djibouti stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Hinduism in Djibouti|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hinduism in Djibouti closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hinduism in Djibouti|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hinduism in Djibouti closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hinduism in Djibouti|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hinduism in Djibouti closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete, this is a non-topic. There isn't anything noteworthy to say about Hinduism in Djibouti, so someone searching for this topic won't learn anything about it. -- Tavix ^(talk) 04:35, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:22, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:37, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song) }} → :Ariana Grande  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Do_You_Love_Me_(Ariana_Grande_song)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Do_You_Love_Me_(Ariana_Grande_song) stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Do You Love Me (Ariana Grande song) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unreleased song, doesn't appear in any of her albums, and isn't mentioned at Ariana Grande or List of songs recorded by Ariana Grande. Without a place that gives information on the song, there's no point in having the redirect. -- Tavix ^(talk) 03:54, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:24, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

• {{no redirect|1 = List of legendary Pokémon }} → :Pokémon  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-02-17&end=2016-03-17&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_legendary_Pokémon stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of legendary Pokémon|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of legendary Pokémon closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of legendary Pokémon|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of legendary Pokémon closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of legendary Pokémon|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of legendary Pokémon closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No such list exists at the target. The best retargeting option would be Gameplay of Pokémon#Legendary Pokémon, but that section doesn't have a list; {{No redirect|Legendary Pokémon}} already redirects to the aforementioned section, so a "List of..." redirect targeting there without an actual list being in the section could be misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 03:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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