Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 April 20#Vikor

• {{no redirect|1 = Paasselka }} → :Paasselkä  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paasselka&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Paasselka stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Paasselka|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Paasselka closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Paasselka|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Paasselka closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Paasselka|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Paasselka closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) not Germanic but Finnish Si Trew (talk) 23:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. WP:DIACRITICS. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:35, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::Actually, User:Patar knight is right on this one. Usually eubot has a habit of mangling Finnish names, but didn't on this one, it is a straight speedily keep. Si Trew (talk) 07:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::{{yo|SimonTrew}} per WP:IAR, I am ignoring all pertinent rules and deputizing you to close these discussions yourself if you elect to withdraw them in good faith and there have been no competing arguments. To do so, please place directly below the discussion header this code: {{code|{{subst:rfd top|withdrawn by nominator. {{nac}} ~~~~}}}}, and directly below the last line of the discussion: {{code|{{subst:rfd bottom}}}}. Thanks in advance for helping with the administrative load. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:03, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::::{{re|Ivanvector}} WP:XFDC was extended to RfD a couple weeks ago. Now, closing a discussion is literally two clicks. While I agree with you that Simon should start closing his own discussions (and start doing some WP:BEFORE!!!), it's really not as big of a deal as it once was. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::::Ah, I've picked up a new tool today. Also I left out some steps in my instructions (like removing the templates from the nom'd pages) so perhaps this was bad advice. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:23, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Sure, I will close the discussion if I make a cock-up. I didn't think it was wise to do it in this case, but thanks for the kinda "deputising". I do actually check and do my homework, but sometimes I miss. Two more lists gone red today. Si Trew (talk) 20:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Mobius loop }} → :Möbius strip  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mobius_loop&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mobius_loop stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Mobius loop|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mobius loop closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mobius loop|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mobius loop closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Mobius loop|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mobius loop closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) this would seem to me like a straight keep, listing because I am a bit unsure of myself when it comes to eubot ones. Si Trew (talk) 23:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Second paragraph of lede notes that the Mobius strip forms a loop. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 01:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Indeed, but most people would call it a "Mobius strip", wouldn't they, not a "Mobius loop"? But I guess it does no harm... 'Keep and (I shall) mark as {{tlx|R from other name}}. Si Trew (talk) 07:12, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Dilly Hussain }} → :Middle East Eye  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dilly_Hussain&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dilly_Hussain stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Dilly Hussain|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dilly Hussain closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Dilly Hussain|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dilly Hussain closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Dilly Hussain|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dilly Hussain closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

delete, there is nothing about Dilly Hussain in the redirect article. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete, WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. Si Trew (talk) 07:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:REDLINK and WP:XY. From the Middle East Eye website: "Dilly Hussain is the deputy editor of British Muslim news site 5Pillars and a political blogger for the Huffington Post UK." There is no information on this person at the current target or anywhere else on Wikipedia at the moment, but several equally plausible targets. If they are notable they should have their own article. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:08, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Huanuco (disambiguation) }} → :Huánuco (disambiguation)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Huanuco_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Huanuco_%28disambiguation%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Huanuco (disambiguation)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Huanuco (disambiguation) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Huanuco (disambiguation)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Huanuco (disambiguation) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Huanuco (disambiguation)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Huanuco (disambiguation) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Another disambiguation that makes things more ambiguous Si Trew (talk) 20:34, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep, it's useful for those who don't have access to diacritics. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. WP:DIACRITICS. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::No, Delete. The reason that I bang on about these (disambiguation) ones is not that they have or have not diacritics. There is already a disambiguation and so to have the incorrect spelling is reamiguating it. That to me seems slightly worse than harmless. Anone searching (and I realise there are many ways to search) now has two paths to the same destination, as if they were Robert Frost or something. It is not the worst, but I can't see what good comes of having a bot-created redirect to a disambiguation. Si Trew (talk) 07:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per Tavix and Patar knight. Every page title with diacritics should be accessible from the same title without, per WP:DIACRITICS. The only reason we wouldn't have this redirect is if there were separate disambiguation pages for "Huanuco" and "Huánuco", but they would still be linked to each other. Thryduulf (talk) 22:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Voodoosult }} → :Voodoocult  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Voodoosult&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Voodoosult stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Voodoosult|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Voodoosult closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Voodoosult|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Voodoosult closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Voodoosult|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Voodoosult closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

• {{no redirect|1 = Voodooсult }} → :Voodoocult  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Voodoo%D1%81ult&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-22&end=2017-04-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Voodoo%D1%81ult stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Voodooсult|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Voodooсult closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Voodooсult|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Voodooсult closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Voodooсult|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Voodooсult closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

(eubot) I think this is a bit too far out. A back-formation. as usual. Not at target. Si Trew (talk) 20:27, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Comment: It's derived from the redirect Voodooсult. The "c" is Cyrillic. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::To be clear, which C is Cyrillic? Eubot will have "translated" it. Does it make any sense thus? I can't see any at the target either, but I bet there is one somewhere, just my poor little laptop can't display it. I have checked the source and can't find one, but I am sure you are right. Si Trew (talk) 07:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::::There's literally only one c in "Voodooсult". I do hope you can figure it out. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• I have added {{no redirect|1=Voodooсult}} to this nomination, as the keep/delete rationale will be the same for both. For me it's delete as I can't figure out why a band originating in Germany would use a Cyrillic с in their name otherwise stylized with Latin script, there is no discussion of this at the target, the redirects both get no use, and the creator of the Voodooсult redirect has not edited in 10 years. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 12:00, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete implausible spelling and not a useful romanization. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:37, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete per the above. Thryduulf (talk) 22:41, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Vikor }} → :Kvam  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikor&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Vikor stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Vikor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Vikor closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Vikor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Vikor closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Vikor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Vikor closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Not at target. Probably another back-formation by the bot, but I can't see it. Si Trew (talk) 18:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedy retarget to Vikør, which the creation summary clearly indicates is the intended target but which has since been turned into a disambiguation page. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Speedily retarget as above, close and keep. Si Trew (talk) 20:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::I did check the history and did a bit of WP:BEFORE, but I still coouldn't see that. Eubot gets you like that. Si Trew (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedy retarget to Vikør per Ivanvector --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:10, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Yueksek Sadakat }} → :Yüksek Sadakat  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yueksek_Sadakat&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Yueksek_Sadakat stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Yueksek Sadakat|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Yueksek Sadakat closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Yueksek Sadakat|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Yueksek Sadakat closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Yueksek Sadakat|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Yueksek Sadakat closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

::IN the confusion with Twinkle I forgot to say this is eubot and nominated by me, not Germanic but Turkish Si Trew (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Lots of hits with this spelling, primarily related to the Eurovision Song Contest (e.g. [http://www.radiointernational.tv/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2293]), but that is much less of a niche area of interest than you might expect. Thryduulf (talk) 23:12, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep: as it is in compliance with and supportive of the Wikimedia Foundation's goal of increasing access and availability of Wikipedia articles in {{diff|Wikipedia:Pushing to 1.0||1319195|printed versions}} (as detailed at :Template:R to diacritics#Usage). Wes Wolf ^Talk 08:57, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Mac OS XI }} → :MacOS version history  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mac_OS_XI&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mac_OS_XI stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Mac OS XI|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mac OS XI closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mac OS XI|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mac OS XI closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Mac OS XI|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mac OS XI closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unreleased version of Mac OS per WP:CRYSTAL. The latest version is macOS 10.12. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. as per nom. They might call it anything else. We didn't have Windows 9 for example. Si Trew (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, especially when they have been incrementing by .1 for releases. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete. Also doesn't help the redirect's cause when they've renamed the OS to macOS and dropped the "X" entirely. Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:01, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete: Only seems to be used as a speculative term on forums by very few people. Not a generally accepted term and likely to cause confusion by redirection. PriceDL (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Keflavikurflugvoellur }} → :Keflavík International Airport  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keflavikurflugvoellur&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Keflavikurflugvoellur stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Keflavikurflugvoellur|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Keflavikurflugvoellur closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Keflavikurflugvoellur|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Keflavikurflugvoellur closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Keflavikurflugvoellur|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Keflavikurflugvoellur closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Not germanic, but Finnish Si Trew (talk) 17:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedy keep - clearly indicated in the creation summary that it transliterates Keflavíkurflugvöllur, which points to this target. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. The "oe" transliteration version is used here. [https://books.google.ca/books?id=sgtpAAAAMAAJ&q=Keflavikurflugvoellur&dq=Keflavikurflugvoellur&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2i6KRw7TTAhXL8YMKHYkaA6EQ6AEIIzAA] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::At Google Search Books? That is handy. The fact it is used once, and I will assume it is in that book, is not too much to say about it. That just means an English translator, or more likely the printer publisher, has translated it that way, which still doesn't count. Consensus is in general to scrub Finno-Ugric language ones made up by eubot. So Hungarian and Finnish tend to go. Germanic, consensus is to keep. Some are on the borderline because of, er, the borders changed... Si Trew (talk) 07:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::Do you really think that someone searching for Keflavik is going to write or search for "Keflavikurflugvoellur"? They won't. This is a back-formation by User:Eubot that is just downright WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 09:17, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::You already have a mixed-language redirect in that "flugvoellellur" is not the Finnish for "Airport". It's a mixed-language redirect created by Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 09:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::::Why would you want it to be Finnish? This airport is in Iceland, and {{lang|is|flugvöllur}} is Icelandic for "airport". Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 11:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedy keep per WP:DIACRITICS and the above. Another failure to conduct WP:BEFORE. Thryduulf (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Maraja }} → :Maharaja  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maraja&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Maraja stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Maraja|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Maraja closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Maraja|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Maraja closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Maraja|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Maraja closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) that seems a long way out to me, but is probably a keep Si Trew (talk) 17:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedy keep - one can see from the creation summary that this is a direct transliteration from Marajá which redirects to the same target. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Righty ho, Speedily keep per nom, me. User:Ivanvector have you seen we got list 12 all done?! Yay! Si Trew (talk) 07:24, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Cooperative online dictionary of trauma }} → :wiktionary:Appendix:Glossary_of_traumatology  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cooperative_online_dictionary_of_trauma&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cooperative_online_dictionary_of_trauma stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cooperative online dictionary of trauma|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cooperative online dictionary of trauma closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cooperative online dictionary of trauma|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cooperative online dictionary of trauma closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cooperative online dictionary of trauma|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cooperative online dictionary of trauma closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

A soft redirect to a glossary in Wiktionary where it's not mentioned. I think it's strange to redirect something like this to Wiktionary in the first place as it's more of an encyclopedic topic than a dictionaric topic. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete the book is not mentioned in the references section for that wiktionary entry. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Well, I am against cross-wiki redirects anyway but for a different reason. (Because I just don't think they help.) But for now I am not sure on this particular one, considering that "co-operative" can be spelled/written in so many ways. Is it useful? I would say not. But on the other hand I suppose people will search that way. It gets a steady trickle of hits, about twice a week one or two... so it is harmless, but probably those are bot hits or in its absence they would find it anyway. Si Trew (talk) 07:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete per the nomination, this is a very specific title. If someone is searching for this they almost certainly want encyclopaedic information about the subject, not a general dictionary of trauma. Thryduulf (talk) 23:16, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole }} → :Urban community Angers Loire Métropole  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agglomeration_community_of_the_Angers_Loire_Metropole&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Agglomeration_community_of_the_Angers_Loire_Metropole stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Agglomeration community of the Angers Loire Metropole closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) that is WP:FORRED. Si Trew (talk) 17:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. No, it's not. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Tavix. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::And Agglomeration community is not English then, and the back end is French? Je peut parler francais comme une vache espanol. "Agglomeration" makes no sense in English, it would mean "built-up area" roughly, this is just WP:RFD#D5 nonsense.

• Keep per Tavix. Direct translation of the former pre-2016 term. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Strong delete. You cannot translate "Agglomeration" in that way, it should never have been translated in that way in the first place. Eubot making more of them is just adding salt to the fire. "Agglomeration" is also traffic jam". Should I go around creating {{-r|Traffic jam community of the Angers}} and so on? Si Trew (talk) 07:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::"Combined" is probably the nearest, it is a word hard to translate really, the essence of it. All of these "Agglomeration" ones should never have been made, that is a shitty translation. Si Trew (talk) 07:55, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::I'm not sure what you mean. Agglomeration is the English translation of wikt:agglomération, is it not? ([https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/agglom%C3%A9ration#Traductions Wiktionnaire says it is]) And the name of the community is "Angers Loire Métropole". Prior to 2016 this was Communauté d'agglomération d'Angers Loire Métropole, which this title translates properly other than missing diacritics. It is now named Communauté urbaine ... or "urban community" in English. I think it should be "Urban community of the Angers Loire Métropole", but it's the right target nonetheless. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 11:52, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per Ivanvector and Tavix. Thryduulf (talk) 23:17, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Gyoergy Kolonics }} → :György Kolonics  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gyoergy_Kolonics&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gyoergy_Kolonics stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gyoergy Kolonics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gyoergy Kolonics closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gyoergy Kolonics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gyoergy Kolonics closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gyoergy Kolonics|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gyoergy Kolonics closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) another bit of nonsense WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 17:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Gyoergy is a transliteration that is in use. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Gyoergy&oq=Gyoergy&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i59l2j69i60&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Gyoergy&tbm=bks] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:47, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Strong delete. this is a crappy way to translate the Hungarian name. "George" would be the correct translation as in, for example George Mikes. It is just a crappy bot creation. "Gyorgy" I can accept but not this. Si Trew (talk) 07:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. Crappy or not, it's in use by such sources as the [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/olympics_blog/2008/07/hungarian-olymp.html LA Times]. Thryduulf (talk) 23:19, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Groefaz }} → :Glossary of German military terms  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Groefaz&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Groefaz stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Groefaz|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Groefaz closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Groefaz|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Groefaz closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Groefaz|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Groefaz closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This is proably alright , standard Germanic dong, but since it goes to a glossary that doesn't have it, I think this is a bit iffy. Si Trew (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedy keep - clearly indicated in the creation summary that this is intended to transliterate Gröfaz, which is at the target. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Ivanvector. Valid transliteration of term at target section.---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 02:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::::Yes... welll, it is a transliteration I grant you that. But it is not at the glossary of terms. If someone wants to (why I don't know) look up specifically "Groefaz" in a glossary, they are not going to find it there. WP:NOTDICT, essentially. Si Trew (talk) 07:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. As long as Gröfaz redirects to the target, then this should too per WP:DIACRITICS. Thryduulf (talk) 23:20, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Doeme Sztojay }} → :Döme Sztójay  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doeme_Sztojay&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Doeme_Sztojay stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Doeme Sztojay|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Doeme Sztojay closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Doeme Sztojay|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Doeme Sztojay closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Doeme Sztojay|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Doeme Sztojay closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 16:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• {{u|SimonTrew|Si Trew}}, this was already discussed, and kept, back in january. – Uanfala (talk) 19:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per reasoning in previous RFD which resulted in it being kept. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:29, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Righty ho, Speedy keep and withdrawn by nom me. Hehehe the poet Horace said a liar should have a long memory. I'd forgotten this one. Si Trew (talk) 07:29, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus }} → :Digital Realty  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Digital_Realty_Trust_Reit_Inc_Trus&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Digital_Realty_Trust_Reit_Inc_Trus stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Digital Realty Trust Reit Inc Trus closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Federal Realty Investment Trust Re }} → :Federal Realty Investment Trust  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federal_Realty_Investment_Trust_Re&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Federal_Realty_Investment_Trust_Re stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Federal Realty Investment Trust Re|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Federal Realty Investment Trust Re closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Federal Realty Investment Trust Re|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Federal Realty Investment Trust Re closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Federal Realty Investment Trust Re|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Federal Realty Investment Trust Re closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus }} → :Essex Property Trust, Inc.  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Essex_Property_Trust_Reit_Inc_Trus&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Essex_Property_Trust_Reit_Inc_Trus stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Essex Property Trust Reit Inc Trus closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

All unlikely titles with redundant terms added in. A REIT is the same as a realty or property trust, and all of them are also trusts. The titles are also oddly truncated in most cases. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete not helpful to keep redirects of shorthands of mutual fund notations for a company. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Fortune Brands Home And Security I }} → :Fortune Brands Home & Security  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fortune_Brands_Home_And_Security_I&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fortune_Brands_Home_And_Security_I stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fortune Brands Home And Security I|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fortune Brands Home And Security I closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fortune Brands Home And Security I|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fortune Brands Home And Security I closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fortune Brands Home And Security I|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fortune Brands Home And Security I closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Apartment Investment And Managemen }} → :Aimco  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Apartment_Investment_And_Managemen&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Apartment_Investment_And_Managemen stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Apartment Investment And Managemen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Apartment Investment And Managemen closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Apartment Investment And Managemen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Apartment Investment And Managemen closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Apartment Investment And Managemen|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Apartment Investment And Managemen closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio }} → :Fairchild Semiconductor  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fairchild_Semiconductor_Internatio&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fairchild_Semiconductor_Internatio stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fairchild Semiconductor Internatio closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Discovery Communications Inc Serie }} → :Discovery Communications  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discovery_Communications_Inc_Serie&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Discovery_Communications_Inc_Serie stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Discovery Communications Inc Serie|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Discovery Communications Inc Serie closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Discovery Communications Inc Serie|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Discovery Communications Inc Serie closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Discovery Communications Inc Serie|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Discovery Communications Inc Serie closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

All strangely truncated titles, suggesting the (mis)use of an automated tool to mass-create redirects. Unlikely search terms. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete not helpful to keep redirects of shorthands of mutual fund notations for a company. WP:NOTCATALOG AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = NASDAQ:NDAQ }} → :Nasdaq, Inc.  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NASDAQ:NDAQ&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=NASDAQ%3ANDAQ stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:NASDAQ:NDAQ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NASDAQ:NDAQ closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:NASDAQ:NDAQ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NASDAQ:NDAQ closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:NASDAQ:NDAQ|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NASDAQ:NDAQ closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Incorrect format for a {{tl|R from stock symbol}} creating a pseudo-namespace redirect. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Unlikely to be used. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ketchapp Games }} → :Ketchapp  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ketchapp_Games&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ketchapp_Games stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ketchapp Games|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ketchapp Games closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ketchapp Games|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ketchapp Games closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ketchapp Games|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ketchapp Games closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not sure how to handle this one, but "Ketchapp Games" is neither the official, nor a frequently used title, I heard it that time or another, but that's about it. Lordtobi (✉) 10:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::No, just mark as {{tlx|R from unnecessary disambiguation}}. Or do you suggest it be retargeted to Ketchup or what? 10:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::It's probably best we make a DAB and cut this redirect in the meantime. Si Trew (talk) 10:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. It's pretty common for game studios go have "Games" after their name, so it's a valid {{t|R from incorrect name}} assuming this is not a legal name. The unique spelling precludes any target being sought. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::Yes, that's true, but then you're getting into it being WP:NOT a billboard or advertisement. Which considering what we had yesterday, I am not sure of. Perhaps I am too cynical. Si Trew (talk) 08:02, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. I was not going to vote on this one, but I've found a few websites that has called them "Ketchapp Games": [https://www.businessinsider.com.au/ballz-game-ketchapp-app-store-photos-2017-3] [http://www.iplayapps.de/wire-sorrybro-ios-highscore-game-32988/] [https://www.businessinsider.com.au/ketchapp-is-taking-over-the-app-store-2016-2?r=US&IR=T]. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:17, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Anarchyte's findings. Thryduulf (talk) 23:30, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Ukraine }} → :Ubisoft Kiev  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Ukraine&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Ukraine stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Ukraine|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Ukraine closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Ukraine|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Ukraine closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Ukraine|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Ukraine closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Studio was never known as "Ubisoft Ukraine", it was mistake made on many Ubisoft studios that were confused with their coutry-named marketing offices. AFAIK, there wasn't even such an office in Ukraine. Lordtobi (✉) 10:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::BBubng this in with the others. Combine. Si Trew (talk) 10:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Marketing offices aren't notable, but game studios are. Makes sense to redirect to the only such game studio in the country. It also might have gotten use (incorrectly?) in the past [https://www.thebitbag.com/pick-up-these-trials-fusion-tips-and-tricks-to-let-your-bike-do-the-best-moves/81269]. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::And how is "Ubisoft Ukraine" somehow more notable than "Ubisoft Hungary" or "Ubisoft Czech Republic". Do I have to call it? I call it. WP:COMPANY. These are not notable. Si Trew (talk) 20:01, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::Am I the only one who has the feeling that Ubisoft is trying to get its name known by "advertising" on Wikipedia? It is a small start-up company, good luck to them. Most of their games only work on Windows, not cross-platform except a couple work on IoS. If they should be advertising to anyone it should be me. Good luck to them but this is not the place to do it. Si Trew (talk) 20:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Well, redirects certainly don't have to meet a notability standard. Ubisoft has a studio in Kiev, so it's plausible that referring to it incorrectly in this war will occur. Ubisoft doesn't seem to have studios in those countries, so those should stay red. Ubisoft is absolutely massive and has an income of more than half a billion Euros each year. It certainly doesn't need to "advertise" on Wikipedia. If you feel any of these studios aren't notable, take it to AFD.---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:33, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep given that this company navbox has a bunch of individual articles for its locales and somehow that survives notability and WP:NOTDIRECTORY? Mark as {{tlx|R from name and country}} or {{tlx|R from incorrect name}}. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:23, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = NADEO }} → :Nadeo  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NADEO&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=NADEO stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:NADEO|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NADEO closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:NADEO|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NADEO closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:NADEO|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#NADEO closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

We don't usually make redirects with names in full-capitalsation. Redirect only had 30 clicks in its 2-year lifespan. Lordtobi (✉) 10:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::We actually do make {{tlx|R from other capitalization}}s, all the time. Because the search engine has got a bit better, we don't really need it, but this goes for a Keep, Two years is long enough, it wasn't made yesterdazy, Si Trew (talk) 10:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Target page shows that the logo for this company has the name in all caps. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep, it's already got {{tl|r from other caps}} on it, so it should be fine. Plausible redirect due to the companies stylization. -- Anarchyte (work | talk) 15:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep: It's plausible whatever lifespan of an redirect. KGirlTrucker81 ^{huh? what I've been doing} 16:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep as plausible synonym since the logo is written in all caps --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:11, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ivory Tower (game developer) }} → :Ivory Tower (company)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ivory_Tower_(game_developer)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ivory_Tower_%28game_developer%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ivory Tower (game developer)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ivory Tower (game developer) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ivory Tower (game developer)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ivory Tower (game developer) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ivory Tower (game developer)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ivory Tower (game developer) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unnecessary disambiguation, redirect only receives an average of >1 visits per day. Lordtobi (✉) 10:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Delete. We already have a disambiguation, we don't need two. That is ambiguating a disambiguation. Si Trew (talk) 10:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep as {{t|R from unnecessary disambiguation}}. Unless Ivory Tower isn't a game developer, there's no issue here. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:43, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Patar knight, although I think {{temp|R from other disambiguation}} would be the better tag. Thryduulf (talk) 23:35, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep as {{tl|r from other disambiguation}} per Thryduulf. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 04:57, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Kyiv }} → :Ubisoft Kiev  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Kyiv&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Kyiv stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Kyiv|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Kyiv closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Kyiv|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Kyiv closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Kyiv|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Kyiv closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unofficially localized version of target name. Wikipedia is not a dictioniary, especially not on fictional words. Lordtobi (✉) 09:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Odd to call the official romanization used by the Ukrainian government a "fictional word". ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• :By "fictional word" I meant 'Ubisoft Kiev'--pardon if I didn't express that properly. Lordtobi (✉) 15:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::If "Ubisoft Kiev" is fictional, take it to WP:AFD. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:39, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep Redirect is fine, as for the article, take it to AfD if you feel like it isn't notable. Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:45, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Quebec City }} → :Ubisoft Quebec  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Quebec_City&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Quebec_City stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Quebec City|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Quebec City closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Quebec City|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Quebec City closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Quebec City|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Quebec City closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Target never held the name "Ubisoft Quebec City" in primary or secondary sources, only some IMDb and IGN databases (tertiary sources!) mention, but do not detail out, that name. Lordtobi (✉) 09:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::I am one of the few here who have actually been to Quebec City, and the capital, Ottowa. If it is not in RS kill it. Strong delete. Si Trew (talk) 09:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::Actually User:Ivanvector lives somewhere in Canada. He would be the expert on this one. Si Trew (talk) 09:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:Indeed, [https://www.ubisoft.com/en-US/studio/quebec.aspx Ubisoft's official site] calls it "Ubisoft Quebec". -Einstein95 (talk) 11:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Comment ({{rtp}}) - Ubisoft Québec is physically located in Quebec City, as the city is commonly known amongst Anglophones to distinguish it from the Province of Quebec, and in this case may further disambiguate this location from Ubisoft Montreal, also located in the Province of Québec. The redirect is not wrong, but is it useful? Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. As Ivanvector notes, many people call the city Quebec City, and this helps distinguish it from Ubisoft Montreal. At best useful, at worst harmless.---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Austro-Hungarian coroana }} → :Austro-Hungarian krone  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Austro-Hungarian_coroana&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Austro-Hungarian_coroana stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Austro-Hungarian coroana|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Austro-Hungarian coroana closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Austro-Hungarian coroana|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Austro-Hungarian coroana closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Austro-Hungarian coroana|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Austro-Hungarian coroana closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) this can go speedily. The Korona or Corona, fine, but this is a bot creation from a misspelling. This is well too far out. I think Speedily Delete. Si Trew (talk) 09:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. A simple Google Books search that anyone can do in ten seconds [https://www.google.ca/webhp?hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSxrDNrbPTAhXi8YMKHWgaC1gQPAgD#q=coroana+Romanian+krone&hl=en&tbm=bks], or even searching Wikipedia (see: Coroana) would show that this is Romanian translation for the Austro-Hungarian currency. Given that large parts of Romania were under Habsburg rule for centuries, this should be kept. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::And a simple dictionary search in your own head will tell you that "coroana" is not a word. In Hungarian it would be with Korona. In other languages i would be in several. This isn't oene of them. Wikipedia, the misleading encyclpoaedia. Si Trew (talk) 15:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::This is Romanian, without the diacritic, which is fine per WP:DIACRITICS. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::::It is not fine. I can speak a bit of Romanian, a lot of Roma live around here. This is nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::::Are you telling me that "Austro-Hungarian coroana" is Romanian? That just makes me laugh. Si Trew (talk) 16:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::::coroana goes to DAB, by the way. I know what it means, none of the entries have this spelling. This is just wrong. Si Trew (talk) 16:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::::And your Google Books search brings up for me Romanian dictionaries and nothing more. Si Trew (talk) 16:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::::"coroana" is Romanian, without the diacritic. Having the country name in English is standard (e.g. Turkish lira). The dictionaries show that coroana and krone both mean "crown", and some of the sources do refer to the two analogously. [https://books.google.ca/books?id=EtQMAQAAMAAJ&q=coroana+Romanian+krone&dq=coroana+Romanian+krone&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjd8cLzv7PTAhWITSYKHc3aA-44ChDoAQg1MAM] Austro-Hungarian_krone#Name also supports this and notes that the Romanian spelling was apprently used on Austro-Hungarian currency in Romanian-heavy areas. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 17:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::We are not doing numismatism here. I think this one needs more discussion. That links throuh to "Krone", not "Coroana". I know what an English Crown is or whatever, that is not the point. Si Trew (talk) 17:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::It's not about money it is about crowned heads of state etc. WP:XY at the least. Si Trew (talk) 17:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Besides our article make this connection, it's made in numerous academic papers (e.g. [http://www.iises.net/proceedings/18th-international-academic-conference-london/table-of-content?cid=27&iid=036&rid=5000] at n 12). It's no more a case of WP:XY than Chinese Yuan (is it about Yuan-era people), Japanese Yen (Circles in Japan?) or British Pound (maybe they're looking for locations housing stray dogs?). ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:50, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Weak keep This seems like a quite implausible search term, and the total lack of page views backs that up; but WP:CHEAP applies and Patar knight makes a good argument for keeping. Sideways713 (talk) 20:41, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Zuercher Oberland }} → :Zürcher Oberland  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zuercher_Oberland&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Zuercher_Oberland stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Zuercher Oberland|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zuercher Oberland closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Zuercher Oberland|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zuercher Oberland closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Zuercher Oberland|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zuercher Oberland closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Well is it or sn't it. It's not English, Iffy. Si Trew (talk) 09:42, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Valid German transliteration. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Yes... but it's a bit nonsence... Withdrawn by nominator (me). Si Trew (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Correao }} → :Correão  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Correao&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Correao stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Correao|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Correao closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Correao|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Correao closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Correao|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Correao closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubo). This spelling would not exist but for Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC) Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep - this is just a typical {{tl|R from diacritics}}. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• All right, that is a Speedy keep and withdrawn by nom. me.. Si Trew (talk) 17:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Pokemon Water Blue }} → :Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pokemon_Water_Blue&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pokemon_Water_Blue stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Pokemon Water Blue|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pokemon Water Blue closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Pokemon Water Blue|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pokemon Water Blue closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Pokemon Water Blue|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pokemon Water Blue closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) probably via neelix. I dunno. Patently Water Blue is not FireRed and LeafGreen, on any reasonable search. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 09:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:Delete. Possibly got confused with Pokemon Blue, but either way this isn't a real thing and is an implausible redirect. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:Delete. A user, when typing this in the search box, would probably mean Pokémon Blue for Game Boy. I see why this redirect exists -- for those who were confused that the partner to FireRed is LeafGreen and not something like WaterBlue, but I still stand against this redirect, for the fact that it has never existed and never will exist. Manfred (talk) 00:12, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Valcea (disambiguation) }} → :Vâlcea (disambiguation)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Valcea_(disambiguation)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Valcea_%28disambiguation%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Valcea (disambiguation)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Valcea (disambiguation) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Valcea (disambiguation)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Valcea (disambiguation) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Valcea (disambiguation)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Valcea (disambiguation) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) This does not disambiguate in any way at all... it clutters Si Trew (talk) 09:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. WP:DIACRITICS. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::No, it hinders. There is already a disambiguation page. Now we have a bot created misspelling to that same disambiguation page. That is just clutter, and doesn't help but hinders people searching. Si Trew (talk) 20:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per WP:DIACRITICS and my comments on other recent nominations of this sort. Thryduulf (talk) 04:57, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Kiar }} → :Kjárr  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiar&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kiar stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Kiar|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kiar closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kiar|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kiar closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Kiar|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kiar closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) this may be a bit too far out. Probably OK. Not in article, though, with this spelling. I could imagine people would look for the Ford Kia or something, perhaps better as red. Weak delete. Si Trew (talk) 08:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Disambiguate. I've made a draft DAB at the page. If this happens, the hatnote at the current target should be fixed to point at the DAB. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• DAB it as Patar said above. Si Trew (talk) 17:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Judaeo-Golpaygani }} → :Judeo-Golpaygani language  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judaeo-Golpaygani&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Judaeo-Golpaygani stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Judaeo-Golpaygani|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Judaeo-Golpaygani closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Judaeo-Golpaygani|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Judaeo-Golpaygani closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Judaeo-Golpaygani|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Judaeo-Golpaygani closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot). On the face of it, this makes a reasonable redirect. "Judaeo-" after all is an all right English prefix. Since this is a back-formation by a bot, I do think we have to get reliable sources that this term is used in real life beyond Wikipedia. Listing then checking. Si Trew (talk) 08:18, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Unsure. I see hits for this, some of which are obviously derived from Wikipedia but others I'm not sure about their indpendence. Thryduulf (talk) 05:08, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Judaeo is a legitimate spelling. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 05:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep as a very plausible (mis?)spelling. – Uanfala (talk) 12:54, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Japan }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Japan&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Japan stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Japan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Japan closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Japan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Japan closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Japan|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Japan closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Tokyo }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Tokyo&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Tokyo stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Tokyo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Tokyo closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Tokyo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Tokyo closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Tokyo|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Tokyo closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubi Studios UK }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubi_Studios_UK&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubi_Studios_UK stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubi Studios UK|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubi Studios UK closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubi Studios UK|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubi Studios UK closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubi Studios UK|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubi Studios UK closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Bulgaria }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Bulgaria&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Bulgaria stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Bulgaria|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Bulgaria closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Bulgaria|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Bulgaria closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Bulgaria|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Bulgaria closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd. }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubi_Soft_Entertainment_Ltd.&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubi_Soft_Entertainment_Ltd. stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd.|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd. closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd.|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd. closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd.|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubi Soft Entertainment Ltd. closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Entertainment Inc }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Entertainment_Inc&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Entertainment_Inc stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Entertainment Inc|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Entertainment Inc closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Entertainment Inc|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Entertainment Inc closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Entertainment Inc|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Entertainment Inc closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Target holds no information on the given subject, and subject itself does not exist. Lordtobi (✉) 08:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:{{ping|Lordtobi}} have you just been fired from Ubisoft or what? Go carefully, because they do have information on the subject. I list a lot from eubot lists, I am just saying, it can look like that if you're not careful. Si Trew (talk) 08:20, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::And also thanks that I am not the only one here tidying up the mess at Wikipedia! Si Trew (talk) 08:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• (on Ubi Soft Entertainemt Ltd. / Ubisoft Entertainment Inc) Delete, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Si Trew (talk) 08:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep the last two (but especially the last one) as {{t|R from incorrect name}}. Not too unlikely that people might not be familiar with the precise legal classification of the company. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• :Note, though, that no company by the name "Ubisoft Entertainment Inc" (in what variation ever) exists, as the French HQs are "Ubisoft Entertainment SA", while the North American subsidiary is simply "Ubisoft, Inc."; [https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02409000 Ubi Soft Entertainment LtdLimited] did exist, though the article itself holds no information on the British marketing office, really, and it is not a plausible term after all. Lordtobi (✉) 20:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete all but the last one. The 2nd to last could possibly be kept, but "Ubi Soft" isn't written anywhere, so I'm neutral on that one. The last one is 100% viable and should be kept. Anarchyte (work | talk) 13:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Rainer Bluem }} → :Rainer Blüm  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rainer_Bluem&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Rainer_Bluem stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Rainer Bluem|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Rainer Bluem closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Rainer Bluem|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Rainer Bluem closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Rainer Bluem|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Rainer Bluem closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Germanic, but you can't bugger about with surnames like that. He was not called "Bluem" Si Trew (talk) 08:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Valid transliteration. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep These types of transliterations are quite common. scope_creep (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per the above. It seems that either the subject or someone else with the same name has registered domain names with this spelling of their name, so all the evidence points to this not being "buggering about". Thryduulf (talk) 05:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Vancouver }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Vancouver&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Vancouver stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Vancouver|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Vancouver closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Vancouver|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Vancouver closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Vancouver|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Vancouver closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Chengdu }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Chengdu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Chengdu stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Chengdu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Chengdu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Chengdu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Chengdu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Chengdu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Chengdu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Singapore }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Singapore&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Singapore stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Singapore|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Singapore closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Singapore|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Singapore closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Singapore|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Singapore closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft San Francisco }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_San_Francisco&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_San_Francisco stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft San Francisco|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft San Francisco closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft San Francisco|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft San Francisco closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft San Francisco|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft San Francisco closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Sofia }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Sofia&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Sofia stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Sofia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Sofia closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Sofia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Sofia closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Sofia|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Sofia closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Ubisoft Casablanca }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubisoft_Casablanca&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubisoft_Casablanca stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Casablanca|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Casablanca closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Casablanca|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Casablanca closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubisoft Casablanca|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubisoft Casablanca closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Target holds no information on the given subject, except for a list entry. Lordtobi (✉) 08:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::WP:RFD#D2, confusing. There is nothing about Ubisoft Casablanca. Si Trew (talk) 08:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete all WP:YELLOWPAGES don't need all the branch offices AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:54, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ubidays }} → :Ubisoft  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ubidays&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ubidays stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ubidays|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubidays closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ubidays|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubidays closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ubidays|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ubidays closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Target holds no information on the given subject. Lordtobi (✉) 08:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. Presumably internal company slang for a day off or whatever, not encylopaedic even if we had information on it. Si Trew (talk) 08:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = If -- }} → :If—  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=If_--&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=If_-- stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:If --|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#If -- closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:If --|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#If -- closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:If --|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#If -- closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) I suppose this is all right and we have consensus, nearly, that changing an em dash to two hyphens is fine. I am not looking for evidence in print etc, I just trying to establish consensus, that these eubot ones with em dashes replaced by hyphens (as "{{tlx|R from title without diacritics}}", of course) are all right? Weak keep on my part. Si Trew (talk) 08:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:If you notice, there is a space in the R that there isn't in the target title. I don't think that makes any difference. Si Trew (talk) 08:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Most cases of – to -- are probably fine. Target is unlikely to be moved, so it's also WP:CHEAP. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. Plausible and harmless. Change the R cat template if it is incorrect. Thryduulf (talk) 05:12, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Laszlo Koeteles }} → :László Köteles  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Laszlo_Koeteles&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Laszlo_Koeteles stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Laszlo Koeteles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Laszlo Koeteles closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Laszlo Koeteles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Laszlo Koeteles closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Laszlo Koeteles|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Laszlo Koeteles closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) not Germanic but Hungarian Si Trew (talk) 08:10, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep Koeteles seems to get use as a transliteration, and Laszlo is ok per WP:DIACRITICS. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Laszlo+Koeteles&oq=Laszlo+Koeteles&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#tbm=bks&q=Koeteles] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:13, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::It is not OK. Laszlo is "lesley", roughly. To then change someone's surname is a but absurd. It is not OK. Si Trew (talk) 17:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::The consensus as far as we have so far is to keep Swedish and German ones and to throw out things that are not Germanic language. This is Hungarian language. You can't just stick dots on the top or take them out and say oh that is all right. Usual Eubot WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Still;l see no evidence of this name being used. Si Trew (talk) 17:18, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::::::::Considering that Hungary was ruled by Germans for centuries, I'm inclined to keep these transliterations if the transliteration gets use, which this one does, per the cases in the link above. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 01:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep the spelling "Laszlo Koeteles" is in widespread use for this person. Thryduulf (talk) 05:14, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Januaria }} → :Januária  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Januaria&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Januaria stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Januaria|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Januaria closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Januaria|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Januaria closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Januaria|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Januaria closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot). Hmmm. Well, since we have January and so on, and it is called "Januaria" in several languages, I am not sure this is the best target for it. No doubt a keep or retarget, but to where? Si Trew (talk) 08:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per WP:DIACRITICS and hatnote to January per nom. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::How do you propse to hatnote a redirect? Si Trew (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::: Added redirect for the month. If there's a better hatnote notation, go for it. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! This was clearly what was meant by "hatnote per nom". ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:54, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• technical withdraw by nom. User:AngusWOOF has sorted this one out. It can go keep, I think, technnicaly. owww my tilde is missin SimonTrew 23:30, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ortakoey, Corum }} → :Ortaköy, Çorum  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ortakoey,_Corum&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ortakoey%2C_Corum stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ortakoey, Corum|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ortakoey, Corum closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ortakoey, Corum|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ortakoey, Corum closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ortakoey, Corum|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ortakoey, Corum closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 08:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Ortakoey is a transliteration that gets used and Corum is a matter of WP:DIACRITICS. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Ortakoey%2C+Corum&oq=Ortakoey%2C+Corum&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#tbm=bks&q=Ortakoey] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:08, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::That search brings me up Lonely Planet on Google Books. Try again. WP:RS please. Si Trew (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::It's WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::::And Lonely Planet is a major travel guide publisher. Other non-Lonely Planet hits exist too from that same search (e.g. Sotheby's Art Auction [https://books.google.ca/books?id=p5Mxzcw-2mAC&q=Ortakoey&dq=Ortakoey&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiy7MD2o7TTAhUm3IMKHVCKCR4Q6AEIMzAC]). ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:53, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per Patar knight. It matters only that the spelling is used, uses don't have to be in reliable sources. The point of redirects like this is so that people can find the article, which is an entirely different matter to the content of the article. Thryduulf (talk) 05:16, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Choerten }} → :Stupa  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Choerten&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Choerten stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Choerten|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choerten closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Choerten|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choerten closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Choerten|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Choerten closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) Not Germanic. Not given at target, which is about Buddhist monks/nuns in Japan. Really not sure how it managed this, but we have (I was counting quickly) about four thousand redirects to this target... Si Trew (talk) 08:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:Comment That is a ridiculous number of redirects to one target. Not by Eubot, this is the first time I have found one to here by Eubot. Seven or eight, is fine, but about four thousand is probably something that we should do something about. I clicked on 500 each page and I got to eight or 9, so I might be off by a bit, but it will be around 4000. Si Trew (talk) 08:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::Mea culpa, I think Wikipedia search gave me the things that link to it, not the redirects. There are about a dozen. My fault. This should not be one of them. Si Trew (talk) 08:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. In use. Shockingly, German archaeologists (of which there are many) like to use familiar transliterations when writing in English. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Choerten&oq=Choerten&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Choerten&tbm=bks] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Straight Speedily keep'''. I get differnet search results from what Patar Knight gets. But I take it on trust on this one. Si Trew (talk) 17:22, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = C. O. Mueller }} → :Karl Otfried Müller  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=C._O._Mueller&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=C._O._Mueller stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:C. O. Mueller|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#C. O. Mueller closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:C. O. Mueller|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#C. O. Mueller closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:C. O. Mueller|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#C. O. Mueller closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) I can see how it got from here to there, (presumably someone has written "Carl" instead of "Karl" at some point), but the article does not have this, WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. I did some WP:BEFORE and a basic search gives me car companies in Hungary. I can't see how someone might possibly search for it this way, by hook or crook, and if they did they might get a WP:SURPRISE. We have Mueller Co. for example, so I am just not sure on this one. Si Trew (talk) 07:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Both Carl Ottfried Muller and C.O. Muller were used, and this is a valid transliteration. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=C.+O.+Mueller&oq=C.+O.+Mueller&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#tbm=bks&q=C.+O.+Mueller+Ottfried] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• All right. All I get is a Google Books search. I guess Patar Knight has done his homework. Speedily keep. Si Trew (talk) 17:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Andres ond }} → :Donald Duck  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andres_ond&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Andres_ond stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Andres ond|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Andres ond closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Andres ond|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Andres ond closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Andres ond|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Andres ond closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) um.... I thought In English Donald Duck was called Donald Duck, not Andres ond. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Again, the lede has this in various languages, no problem with that, but he is not called "Andres ond" in English. Si Trew (talk) 07:50, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Refine to Donald_Duck#Nordic_countries, where the name is mentioned and where the character's high popularity in Nordic countries is also mentioned. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Delete per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 May 2#Andrés önd. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:08, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::I think we have {{-r|Andres onde}} too by Eubot. Somewhere on my list. Si Trew (talk) 20:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::I am out on that one, but there are a few more. Si Trew (talk) 20:15, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::That is not a reliable source, that is a scrape by a lazy sub editor. That, I will bet you all lombard-street to a China orange, has been scraped from Wikipedia. 23:34, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Refine per Patar knight, this is mentioned in the article with diacritics and so the version without is also a fine redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
• Refine per Patar knight and Thryduulf, and undelete Andrés önd, which clearly should also point there if this does. Sideways713 (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
• Refine per everyone else, and undeletion per Sideways713 is apparently obvious too. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Impact de Montreal }} → :Montreal Impact  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Impact_de_Montreal&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Impact_de_Montreal stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Impact de Montreal|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Impact de Montreal closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Impact de Montreal|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Impact de Montreal closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Impact de Montreal|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Impact de Montreal closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) another kinda cross-translation one. The target obviously is in English, and this has been back-translated by the bot. There's nothing wrong with it as such, but since we have {{-r|Montreal Impact}} and {{-r|Montréal Impact}} and so forth, because this is a bot translation, I think this should go. This clutters Wikipedia, but more, things like google translate use wikipedia for their corpus, and this just clutters that with meaningless jibberish. Si Trew (talk) 07:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Valid French name used by RS. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Impact+de+Montreal&oq=Impact+de+Montreal&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#tbm=nws&q=%22Impact+de+Montreal%22] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 16:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep - team's actual name in French, which is an official language in Canada (and especially common in Montreal), minus diacritics. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::No, there is no doubt that that is their name in French. But this is the English Wikipedia and I doubted English-speakers would search this way. But User:Ivanvector is the expert really on this, at the canuck, so Keep and withdrawn by nom, me. Si Trew (talk) 20:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Well the RFD template above allows you to look at the page views pretty easily. This one has gotten [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2015-07-01&end=2017-04-19&pages=Impact_de_Montreal 165 hits] since July 1, 2015. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus }} → :Afevork Ghevre Jesus  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Afaewaerq_Gaebrae_Iyaesus&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Afaewaerq_Gaebrae_Iyaesus stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Afaewaerq Gaebrae Iyaesus closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) I can see the transliteration, but I think this is very unlikely to an English speaking audience, considering the target title is already a transliteration. Delete Si Trew (talk) 07:44, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. This does not appear to be used. Thryduulf (talk) 05:19, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Koelcse }} → :Kölcse  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koelcse&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Koelcse stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Koelcse|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koelcse closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Koelcse|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koelcse closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Koelcse|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koelcse closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

()eubot) not germanic but Hungarian Si Trew (talk) 07:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Looks like it gets use. [https://books.google.ca/books?id=Fx4UAQAAMAAJ&q=Koelcse&dq=Koelcse&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZhL2Qs7PTAhWP0YMKHe7JCyoQ6AEIIzAA] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::And where do you thing the "FBIS Daily Report" scrapes its news from?" Not a reliable source. Si Trew (talk) 20:18, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Not sure what you're implying. This report was produced in 1990 by the Foreign Broadcast Information Service, which is a part of the CIA. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:18, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per Patar knight. It also doesn't matter whether the source is reliable or not, just that it is used independently of Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 05:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = First Battle of Inoenue }} → :First Battle of İnönü  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=First_Battle_of_Inoenue&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=First_Battle_of_Inoenue stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:First Battle of Inoenue|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#First Battle of Inoenue closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:First Battle of Inoenue|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#First Battle of Inoenue closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:First Battle of Inoenue|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#First Battle of Inoenue closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) not Germanic but Turkish. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 07:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Transliteration that is in use. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=First+Battle+of+Inoenue&oq=First+Battle+of+Inoenue&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#tbm=bks&q=Inoenue] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:59, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::Another link to Google Book Search. Please quote your sources properly. Si Trew (talk) 20:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::If it is not "FBUS Daily Report" it is "Google Book Search". That is not enough to dissuade me. Si Trew (talk) 23:37, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Many of those sources refer to President Inönü (who named himself after his victory after the introduction of surnames by Ataturk), as "President Inoenue", showing that this is a valid transliteration. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:16, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::It is 'not a valid transliteration. That is the whole point. We have consensus that Germanic and Swedish ones are substituted, User:Patar knight, but this is not Germanic but Turkish. What eubot did in its mindless way was to transliterate any sodding thing with an umlaut assuming it was German, so we get "Inoenue" instead of what you write. You just can't do that, you can't. It makes a mockery of this encyclopaedia. I am happy to keep {{tlx|R from other language}} and {{tlx|R from geo}} and so on, but what we are doing here is misleading people. You and I both want to make this encylopaedia better, and I thank you for it. But on this one, you're wrong. Si Trew (talk) 09:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::To fill you in, I can speak Hungarian, English, French, a bit of Spanish, a bit of Latin, some ancient Greek not the new stuff, and a few odds and sods besides. Sometimes I know what I am talking about. I don't know Turkish at all but I know that is not a bloody Germanic umlaut that eubot has substituted in there. Si Trew (talk) 09:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per Patar knight and my comment on Second Battle of Inoenue that was recently nominated. Thryduulf (talk) 05:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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(eubot) Not Germanic but Mongolian. WP:RFD#D5 as usual. Si Trew (talk) 07:32, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. Not used. Thryduulf (talk) 05:23, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Koelsch (beer) }} → :Kölsch (beer)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koelsch_(beer)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Koelsch_%28beer%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Koelsch (beer)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koelsch (beer) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Koelsch (beer)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koelsch (beer) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Koelsch (beer)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koelsch (beer) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot) I suppose this is all right, Germanic and stuff, but with the English (beer) disambiguation at the back, it does make it a bit nonsense. Weak Delete. Si Trew (talk) 07:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Valid transliteration. Parenthetical disambiguators are generally in English on this Wikipedia for good reason. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Patar knight. Thryduulf (talk) 05:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep, I might actually type this when I don't have easy access to the ö. —Kusma (t·c) 06:39, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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(eubot) no idea, not in article. WP:RFD#D2 confusing. Si Trew (talk) 00:31, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::and before anyone else says WP:BEFORE or WP:RS or whatever, why do you think we are building an encylopaedia as a collaborative project. If we have nothing to say, we should say it. Si Trew (talk) 00:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Retarget to JŽ 664 locomotive, which is mentioned and linked from the article page. Could have been done WP:BOLDly ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:55, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Retarget per Patar Knight. I think that makes more sense. Si Trew (talk) 17:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::{{ping|User Patar Knight}} I do thousands of these each day, to sift through the crap Eubot made. I do not have time to boldly retarget, we do not have a WP:X1 consession. I just sift, say that is OK, that is a bit iffy, that needs delete. (List 16 os already at Miscellany for Deletion). That is what I do each day. We'll be there in about a month. The Neelix redirects, we got through in about three months, with that concession. Si Trew (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Speedily Retarget per Patar. Si Trew (talk) 17:09, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Retkoezberencs }} → :Rétközberencs  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Retkoezberencs&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Retkoezberencs stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Retkoezberencs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Retkoezberencs closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Retkoezberencs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Retkoezberencs closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Retkoezberencs|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Retkoezberencs closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot). Not Germanic but Hungarian. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 00:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::As far as I can see from Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Eubot_3#.3DS this bot was approved for a trial of ten edits. Too late now, but I have asked and asked again, and this bot has never had approval for a run. A trial run, yes. Si Trew (talk) 13:56, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete. No evidence this is used. Thryduulf (talk) 05:27, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Arloev }} → :Arlöv  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arloev&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Arloev stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Arloev|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Arloev closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Arloev|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Arloev closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Arloev|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Arloev closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot). On the whole consensus is to keep Swedish ones, but this is I think a bit on the cusp, for helping people to search. Not sure. Si Trew (talk) 00:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Valid transliteration for which consensus is to keep. Also gets lots of usage. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Arloev+sweden&oq=Arloev+sweden&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.3870j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Arloev+sweden&tbm=bks] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Speedy keep' and withdrawn as useful. Si Trew (talk) 16:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Huerriyet }} → :Hürriyet  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Huerriyet&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Huerriyet stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Huerriyet|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Huerriyet closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Huerriyet|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Huerriyet closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Huerriyet|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Huerriyet closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Another turkik turkik from eubot. WP:RHD#D5 delete, nonsense. Si Trew (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. Does get some use. [https://books.google.ca/books?id=1tuZQlMu4UsC&q=Huerriyet&dq=Huerriyet&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAobPfsbPTAhVhyoMKHdT6C5QQ6AEIOTAF] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::I presume you don't speak any Hungarian. This is bloody nonsense. Never mind. Si Trew (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::It's Turkish, and given the large number of Turks living in Germany, it's not surprising that German transliterations for umlauts get used on Turkish words occasionally. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:08, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::NO, I don't think we can do that. Turks in Germany would not suddenly chuck in a "ue" for a "U umlaut" in their native language., and then back-form it to "Huerriyet", That is just WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. 13:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

:::User:Champion's list twelve has gone too. Yay!

• Keep gets plenty of uses independent of Wikipedia. Most prominently, but far from exclusively, in the captions of stock photos and the sources that include such photos. Such uses are very visible and likely to lead to people searching for information using that spelling. Thryduulf (talk) 05:32, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Koroesi }} → :Korossy  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koroesi&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Koroesi stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Koroesi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koroesi closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Koroesi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koroesi closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Koroesi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Koroesi closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

(eubot). Koeresi is not a Hungarian surname, the target is a surname page. The lede tells you some of them, but this ain't one of them, this is a back-formation by eubot. Delete, WP:RFD#D5] nonsense Si Trew (talk) 00:14, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. It does seem to get some use as an alternative transliteration. [https://www.google.ca/search?q=Koroesi&oq=Koroesi&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#tbm=bks&q=Koroesi+] ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:50, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::You ever lived in Hungary? Ever seen that surname? You can just not do it that way. Let me explain. The "y" at the end is suspicious enough because only used by Hungarian nobles who hang on to their old surnames. Then to make a back-formation from a bot that assumes that an accent in the middle is Germanic whent isn't, is nonsense. The link you gave is to Google Books search and is no use to me at all. I need proper WP:RS that this is used. Si Trew (talk) 17:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Some of the hits in my link very clearly refer to people of Hungarian descent using this transliteration. [https://books.google.ca/books?id=c3XgAAAAMAAJ&q=Koroesi&dq=Koroesi&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4K3woLTTAhUm4IMKHUBQAgcQ6AEIOTAE], [https://books.google.ca/books?id=UFtNAQAAIAAJ&q=Koroesi&dq=Koroesi&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4K3woLTTAhUm4IMKHUBQAgcQ6AEIRjAH], etc. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 00:13, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

::I get different hits from you. I think you need proper WP:RS to substantiate your position. For example, near where I live there is a street called Wesselenyi utca. Now Wesseleny (not sure if we have it) is an old Hungarian noble name. The I just means "named after", "Mac", "O'" whatever (roughly). In this case what you have done is taken Koeresi which already has that "mac" on it, taken it off, and stuck a Y at the end of it, and then Germanised it. It's just too far out, I think. Si Trew (talk) 14:04, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep per Patar knight's findings. What matters is uses demonstrating usefulness as a search term, not reliable sources verifying information in the article. Thryduulf (talk) 05:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Hinzert-Poelert }} → :Hinzert-Pölert  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hinzert-Poelert&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hinzert-Poelert stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Hinzert-Poelert|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hinzert-Poelert closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hinzert-Poelert|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hinzert-Poelert closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hinzert-Poelert|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hinzert-Poelert closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

That seems very unlikely to me, the redirect Si Trew (talk) 00:08, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. This is a German place, thus the redirect is the proper way to transliterate the umlaut. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Tavix. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:48, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Speedily keep' and withdrawn by nom (me). Si Trew (talk) 17:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Junter }} → :Jünter  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Junter&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Junter stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Junter|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Junter closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Junter|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Junter closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Junter|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Junter closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Basically WP:XY. If people plausibly mistyped they may have thought of a Junta or a Jumper or many other things. I don't think without the diacritics they would automatically be thinking of the mascot of a german football club. Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 00:07, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. I don't think someone would be looking for any of those other topics. Therefore, WP:DIACRITICS should prevail. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep. WP:DIACRITICS. Someone typing "Junt" into search will see Junta before this anyway, so possibility of confusion is pretty low. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::Speedy keep and withdrawn by nom (me). Si Trew (talk) 16:57, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Woert }} → :Wört  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Woert&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Woert stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Woert|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Woert closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Woert|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Woert closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Woert|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Woert closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete. Well, Eubot. Si Trew (talk) 00:04, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep. "Eubot" isn't a reason for deletion. This is a German place, thus the redirect is the proper way to transliterate the umlaut. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:23, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
• Keep per Tavix. Valid German transliteration into English. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 15:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

::No, it is a valid reason for thinking what are people are searching for when they type this. They might want wort or some such. I think this is an WP:XY case. Si Trew (talk) 16:58, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Keep - I think Si has a point regarding possible title confusion, but in this case it does seem to be a common transliteration and thus more likely intended to this target. For example, [http://mapru.com/en/germany/10221-woert-germany.html]. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:12, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

:::Right, I know "Eubot" is not a reson for deletion, I list it that way for brevity. I am about the only person here who actually bothers to list a reason for deletion. Nobody else does. Si Trew (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Withdrawn as 'Keep by me the nom. Si Trew (talk) 20:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Joseph McColgan }} → :Ballymote#McColgan abuse scandal  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_McColgan&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-03-21&end=2017-04-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Joseph_McColgan stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Joseph McColgan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Joseph McColgan closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Joseph McColgan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Joseph McColgan closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Joseph McColgan|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Joseph McColgan closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete, name no longer on target. But also see Talk:Ballymote and User_talk:BDD#Sophia McColgan Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Subject of redirected title is not mentioned in the target article. So, per WP:EASTEREGG, a reader will undoubtedly be confused as to why they ended-up where they ended-up. RFD #5 (redirect makes no sense) and RFD #10 (target article contains no information on the subject) also apply. WP:PERP and related NN criteria also apply to subject of redirect title. Redirect is orphaned. Guliolopez (talk) 12:14, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

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