to Canadian raising as the most plausible outcome, taking all comments into account. Deryck C. 09:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- {{no redirect|1 = West–Central Canadian English }} → :Canadian English (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=West%E2%80%93Central_Canadian_English&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-02-12&end=2017-03-13&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=West%E2%80%93Central_Canadian_English stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:West–Central Canadian English|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#West–Central Canadian English closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:West–Central Canadian English|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#West–Central Canadian English closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:West–Central Canadian English|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#West–Central Canadian English closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
This redirect targets Canadian English#Standard Canadian English. It was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=West%E2%80%93Central_Canadian_English&oldid=667010779 once an article] that was redirected/merged into Canadian English and later refined to its current target.
But why that section? What is in the section that warrants this? When I searched the page (Ctrl-F) for "west-central", I came to Canadian English#Canadian raising where it says that Canadian raising is the most notable feature of Canadian English, and that Canadian raising is most prominent in central and west-central Canada. I believe this redirect should be targeted towards Canadian raising. Mr. Guye (talk) 16:12, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Retarget as proposed. Makes sense, could have done so boldly. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Retarget as proposed. I agree entirely with Ivanvector. Thryduulf (talk) 22:49, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
:*Nominator's comment: {{ping|Ivanvector}},{{U|Thryduulf}} The reason why I wasn't bold was because I'm sure that Canadian raising isn't all there is to this accent. But it is the most distinctive thing about the accent.--Mr. Guye (talk) 22:21, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- Restore article. I think it was a well put-together article. There were some under-referenced areas, but I don't understand why it was redirected, especially because it was done without any rationale. My concern about the proposed target is that while Canadian Raising is perhaps the most notable feature of this dialect, it's not the only notable feature, so it may be confusing for some wondering how they ended up where they did without much explanation. -- Tavix (talk) 14:34, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe we should hear the opinion of {{u|Wolfdog}}, who performed the merge in 2015. – Uanfala (talk) 20:13, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
::Hi. I redirected because there is no "Western-Central Canadian English" in any source I found and what that term refers to seems to be easily encapsulated by what William Labov, Charles Boberg, and others have called "Standard Canadian English" (i.e., the English fairly homogeneously used by Canadians west of Quebec). Obviously, if my vote counts for anything in this type of discussion (I'm not ever really up-to-date on small-scale WP policy), I would Retarget as proposed I would Keep the status quo. Even if the article were restored and separated from the rest of Canadian English, it should be under the name actually used by linguists (and probably nonexperts as well): Standard Canadian English. P.S. The Atlas of North American English also names an even more specific subset of this geographic dialect area: Inland Canadian English. Wolfdog (talk) 21:00, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
:::I'd be fine with a restoration and renaming to "Standard Canadian English". The Standard Canadian English section of Canadian English seems to be a bit undue and I could easily see a couple sub-sections split out and integrated with the restored-and-renamed article. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}Relisting comment: this is an
involved relisting to clear the 14 March log page.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Thryduulf (talk) 11:30, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm. I do think there's consensus to retarget here, but that could be a big WP:SURPRISE since nothing like "West-Central Canadian" is mentioned at Canadian raising. I'm always hesitant to close an RfD with a result that feels like it's just going to come back to RfD at some point. Solutions? --BDD (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
::Restoring the underlying article would solve that problem. -- Tavix (talk) 16:56, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
::The consensus is to retarget, so that's what should be done. I don't think it'll be much of a surprise. How many people will be looking for "Western-Central Canadian English" anyway (since it's neither a colloquial nor academic term)? I certainly don't agree to restoring the underlying article, at least not under that name. Wolfdog (talk) 17:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
:::That's why I mentioned that the name should be changed to "Standard Canadian English" after restoration. -- Tavix (talk) 17:26, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
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