Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 April 6#Template:Alb

• {{no redirect|1 = List of programs shown on Myx TV }} → :Myx TV  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_programs_shown_on_Myx_TV&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-13&end=2018-03-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_programs_shown_on_Myx_TV stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of programs shown on Myx TV|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of programs shown on Myx TV closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of programs shown on Myx TV|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of programs shown on Myx TV closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of programs shown on Myx TV|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of programs shown on Myx TV closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

A redirect a history of which includes listcruft and wp:promo. Has recently been restored from a redirect to an article by an IP with a likely COI. Nothing usable in the article history and no incoming links, so might as well delete. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:59, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

• Weak keep and semiprotect to discourage repeat creation. While there is no list of programs in Myx TV there is a section on programming, so it's not entirely inaccurate. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
• Delete - Nothing useful in the history, No one ever searches for this specific title so no need to keep. –Davey2010^Talk 19:22, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

:*I'm also including the reply below as part of my Delete !vote - "{{xt|Readers who search for this title would obviously end up at Myx TV where they would (quite rightly) expect to see a programme list .... So again this title is only giving readers false hope (in assuming a programme list is there when it's not) .... so in that sense it only serves as a useless redirect, If there's no programme list on that target article then what is the point of this redirect ? ..... There isn't one}}", –Davey2010^Talk 17:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

• Delete per Davey2010. Nothing useful about this redirect. We should avoid having lists of programs redirecting to other articles. Ajf773 (talk) 10:32, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
• Sorry but Keep — we've trained users to expect lists like this, so it's a fair search term. May not be tons of help at the target, but it will be of some use (and there likely should/could be more). ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:43, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

:*{{xt|we've trained users to expect lists like this}} - I disagree - Not every channel on this project has a programme list so I disagree readers aren't trained to expect this, The majority of readers would (or should) go to the article first, The other issue with this redirect is that readers who search for this title would obviously end up at Myx TV where they would (quite rightly) expect to see a programme list .... So again this title is only giving readers false hope (in assuming a programme list is there when it's not) .... so in that sense it only serves as a useless redirect, If there's no programme list on that target article then what is the point of this redirect ? ..... There isn't one. –Davey2010^Talk 11:06, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

• Delete per {{u|Davey2010}}. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 17:10, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = ZZTae }} → :ZZT  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ZZTae&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-27&end=2018-03-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ZZTae stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:ZZTae|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ZZTae closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:ZZTae|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ZZTae closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:ZZTae|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ZZTae closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
• {{no redirect|1 = ZZTAE }} → :ZZT  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ZZTAE&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-27&end=2018-03-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=ZZTAE stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:ZZTAE|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ZZTAE closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:ZZTAE|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ZZTAE closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:ZZTAE|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ZZTAE closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
• {{no redirect|1 = Kevedit }} → :ZZT  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevedit&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-27&end=2018-03-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kevedit stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Kevedit|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kevedit closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kevedit|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kevedit closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Kevedit|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kevedit closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
• {{no redirect|1 = KevEdit }} → :ZZT  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KevEdit&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-27&end=2018-03-28&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=KevEdit stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:KevEdit|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#KevEdit closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:KevEdit|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#KevEdit closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:KevEdit|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#KevEdit closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not in target article. Lordtobi (✉) 09:20, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

• Delete alleditor software for the ZZT video game, but it is not mentioned in the article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC) updated 19:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

• Keep These are all quite old, and it seems the main article for each was at some point merged into the target. I'm inclined to keep as these could be linked externally and aren't hurting the project. More to the point, the only reason they're not mentioned in the article is because [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ZZT&diff=820658243&oldid=820388064 you removed them] in January, blanking the section as "nonnotable." These are still [https://museumofzzt.com/article/232/closer-look-modern-zzt-editing-with-kevedit very much alive]. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

• Keep all per {{u|Amorymeltzer}}. In addition, ZZTAE and KevEdit have substantive page histories, and the other two redirects are simply alternative capitalizations. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 19:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

:: Bleh, I got fooled by the delete. Are you able to add a paragraph back about popular editors as with Anonymizer#Examples. It would have to be reliably sourced first. You can use this book by Chris Kohler [https://books.google.com/books?id=Fz8lndvLhJQC&pg=PT441] to save "KevEdit" . Not sure about ZZTae though. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:04, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth }} → :Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Mel  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Let%27s_Do_Lunch_with_Gino_%26_Ruth&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-03-07&end=2018-04-05&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Let%27s_Do_Lunch_with_Gino_%26_Ruth stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Let's Do Lunch with Gino & Ruth closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

An ancient redirect, not eligible for CSD R3. My Google search indicates no results for this title, and the show was never named this. Absolutely no reason to have this, I suspect it was created as a joke. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 14:43, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

• Delete per {{u|Compassionate727}} - Only result for this search term is the redirect target ..... Not sure if joke or what however the fact this is the only result indicates it's a hoax. –Davey2010^Talk 17:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Git (linux) }} → :Git  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Git_(linux)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-18&end=2018-03-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Git_%28linux%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Git (linux)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Git (linux) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Git (linux)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Git (linux) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Git (linux)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Git (linux) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unlikely search term. Lordtobi (✉) 10:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

• Keep this is mainly used on Linux operating systems, especially when it was created by Linus Torvald. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
• :"This is mainly used on Linux" How so? I, at least, use it on Windows, and so do a couple other million users. While Linux sure is a viable platform for Git, the software is not restritcted to that OS. And Linus Torvalds also created the Linux kernel, so should we have a redirect "Git (Linux kernel)" as well? Inheritance is not at play here... Lordtobi (✉) 17:20, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

::: From the article: "Git is primarily developed on Linux, although it also supports most major operating systems including BSD, Solaris, macOS, and Windows." But no, do not make dabs for all the platform variants. Keeping (linux) is good enough and there is Git (software) AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:32, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

• Keep per {{u|AngusWOOF}} and WP:CHEAP. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 14:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Keep Looks fine to me. Goes where I'd expect it to. --BDD (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Template:Alb }} → :Template:WikiProject Albums  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Alb&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-02-20&end=2018-03-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3AAlb stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Template:Alb|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Alb closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Template:Alb|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Alb closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Template:Alb|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Alb closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

I'm not sure what's so hard about typing "um" that this shortcut was necessary to redirect to {{tl|WikiProject Albums}} as {{tl|Album}} already exists and does the same thing, but Template:ALB already exists as ALB is the 3-letter alpha code for Albania. This is not a known abbreviation for albums. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 23:08, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

• Keep - "Alb" are the first three letters in the word "album". This RfD is extremely similar to the 2013 RfD about Template:Cop and the 2014 RfD about Template:wprk, which I am incorporating by reference for the sake of brevity. There are several templates like this, such as {{t|Tb}} which is not about tuburculosis, {{t|pot}} which is not about cannabis, {{t|hat}} which is not about headwear, etc. WP:R#D8 does not apply as this is not an article space redirect. WP:R#D2 does not apply as confusion is less likely to occur in other name spaces.

1. "Unless a WikiProject [or anyone else, for that matter] has actually expressed interest in usurping [these redirects], I don't see [them] doing any harm." To date, no other use for {{t|alb}} has been suggested at all. Per WP:R#KEEP, "If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do".
2. "Alleged confusion is not very plausible at all. So absent evidence of any harm there is no reason to delete."
3. "There seems to be no evidence of confusion, just conjecture on the part of nominator, and no argument grounded in WP:R. Laziness is the exact purpose of redirects, to be perfectly honest, and the creator of a useful redirect that saves one or two characters should be commended. We don't delete redirects based merely on conjecture. Someone obviously found these useful given they were created."
4. "One of the lowest things one can do is steal another mans tools. So you have no use for it. That it's being used is good enough, and there is zero reason to take away something that has no higher use. Such Nominators should be required to be the one to hand edit and remove any deleted tags."
5. "Redirects are not only cheap but this is a redirect from and to template namespace. That would tend to indicate to me that anyone using it is an editor rather than a general reader and they are hardly likely to get it confused with cop. There are lots of little abbreviated things pulled up over the years such as {{tlx|tlc}} or {{tlx|tlx}} or whatever as useful shorthand for editors."

--Jax 0677 (talk) 13:54, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

:*This is just a copy and paste answer this editor has used over and over and over again and doesn't address the concern of the nomination: the fact that Template:ALB already exists. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 15:24, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

• Delete or retarget to Template:ALB per nom. Attempting to distinguish templates per WP:DIFFCAPS, IMO, doesn't work. Steel1943 (talk) 14:56, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

*Delete - I don't understand the logic behind the creation .... Ofcourse we have WP:ANI, WP:RFC, WP:BLP which were all created for convenience and easy linking ..... I fail to understand how typing "Alb" over "album" is easy or convenient ? .... It's just lazyness and for what .... all the sake of 2 letters ..... Delete. –Davey2010^Talk 15:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

:*Retarget - Apparently I missed the first retarget above - Easy retarget tbh. –Davey2010^Talk 22:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

• Retarget to Template:ALB, especially since country abbreviations are often done in lowercase. It's not hard to type {{tl|album}} instead. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 02:48, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

• Retarget to Template:ALB. Typing "template:alb", the name of that template in lowercase, will search for the page "Template:Alb", which is the redirect that we are currently discussing. The lowercase version of a page should, at least in my opinion, almost always redirect to the proper casing. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 14:48, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Retarget to Template:ALB. No sense in having different capitalizations going to different places here. Plantdrew (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose redirect to Template:ALB. Creating redirects so that country codes are not case sensitive wouldn't work for all countries (for example, Brazil). Peter James (talk) 15:07, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Golden Warrior }} → :Issyk kurgan  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Golden_Warrior&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-03-07&end=2018-04-05&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Golden_Warrior stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Golden Warrior|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Golden Warrior closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Golden Warrior|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Golden Warrior closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Golden Warrior|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Golden Warrior closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Should be a disambiguation page. Although the term is indeed used to refer to the Issyk kurgan, there are plenty of other uses for "Golden Warrior", namely: the anime series Golden Warrior Gold Lightan; the Golden Warrior Monument; the video game Golden Axe Warrior; the US Navy squadron VFA-87 (the "Golden Warriors"); the Golden State Warriors basketball team; among others. It doesn't appear that the Issyk kurgan is very well known, or that it is the main topic for "Golden Warrior" for that matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpursySituation (talk • contribs) 09:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

• Disambiguate per nom. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 14:52, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Wary of too many WP:PTMs being added to the main section of a disambiguation page, I've made a draft below the redirect. --BDD (talk) 15:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Disambiguate. Good job {{u|BDD}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
• Dabify per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 06:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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