File:White x in red rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was delete
. -- Tavix (talk) 14:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- {{no redirect|1 = Aqua Lakitu }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aqua_Lakitu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Aqua_Lakitu stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Aqua Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aqua Lakitu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Aqua Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aqua Lakitu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Aqua Lakitu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Aqua Lakitu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Fishin' Lakitu }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fishin%27_Lakitu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fishin%27_Lakitu stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fishin' Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fishin' Lakitu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fishin' Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fishin' Lakitu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fishin' Lakitu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fishin' Lakitu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Lakipea }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lakipea&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lakipea stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Lakipea|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakipea closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Lakipea|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakipea closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Lakipea|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakipea closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Lakithunder }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lakithunder&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lakithunder stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Lakithunder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakithunder closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Lakithunder|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakithunder closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Lakithunder|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakithunder closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Lakitu in a Pipe }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lakitu_in_a_Pipe&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Lakitu_in_a_Pipe stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Lakitu in a Pipe|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakitu in a Pipe closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Lakitu in a Pipe|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakitu in a Pipe closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Lakitu in a Pipe|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Lakitu in a Pipe closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Pipe Lakitu }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pipe_Lakitu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pipe_Lakitu stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Pipe Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pipe Lakitu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Pipe Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pipe Lakitu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Pipe Lakitu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pipe Lakitu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Princess Lakitu }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Princess_Lakitu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Princess_Lakitu stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Princess Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Princess Lakitu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Princess Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Princess Lakitu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Princess Lakitu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Princess Lakitu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Thunder Lakitu }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thunder_Lakitu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Thunder_Lakitu stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Thunder Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder Lakitu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thunder Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder Lakitu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Thunder Lakitu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thunder Lakitu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
- {{no redirect|1 = Wall Lakitu }} → :Lakitu (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wall_Lakitu&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2017-12-24&end=2018-01-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wall_Lakitu stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wall Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wall Lakitu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wall Lakitu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wall Lakitu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wall Lakitu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wall Lakitu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
None of these subjects and/or variations are mentioned at the target. In addition, "Princess Lakitu" isn't even a Nintendo invention: Apparently, it was created by a fan for DeviantArt. Steel1943 (talk) 13:41, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete pernom. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: I added {{No redirect|Aqua Lakitu}} to this discussion at this time. (Pinging Arthistorian1977 to let them know since I added the redirect after their comment.) Steel1943 (talk) 15:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
::Comment I am still positive it's delete. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 19:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - per nom. Unlikely search terms. Sergecross73 msg me 18:31, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: I just added {{No redirect|Lakipea}} to this discussion as it seems to be another unmentioned variation of the target page's subject. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- {{Ping|Arthistorian1977|Sergecross73}} I stand corrected: It turns out that {{No redirect|Lakithunder}} is mentioned at the target. I'm not sure if that's enough to keep it though since it's just mentioned in passing. Steel1943 (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- :I agree and still support deletion. Honestly, looking through the article, I kind of doubt Lakitu itself is even notable - the sourcing is weak and appears to largely be based around passing mentions - though I know of course that we can't decide to delete the article itself at this venue. If you could, I would though. Sergecross73 msg me 00:08, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete all Basically fancruft.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:38, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- :{{ping|Zxcvbnm}} Those aren't fancruft. The question is whether the target article mentions them or not. ToThAc (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: {{{u|Steel1943}}, is it possible to add a section on the Lakitu page briefly describing derivative Lakitus? ToThAc (talk) 18:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- {{Ping|ToThAc}} The only way which I could see that occurring and still meeting essentially all WP:NOT guidelines is if Lakitu itself were redirected to List of recurring Mario franchise enemies#Lakitu, and then mention/redirect them all there. With Lakitu currently being an article, leaving the redirects in place could set the false expectation that the variations are notable, bur redirecting the terms to List of recurring Mario franchise enemies#Lakitu while Lakitu is an article is problematic since they should target Lakitu if it exists, but are not as notable as say variations of Goomba or Koopa Troopa, and in my opinion, really don't need to be in the article at all. In fact, the current state of Lakitu seems more geared towards Lakitu as a unique character rather than a recurring enemy in the Mario series. Essentially, this is a double-edged sword that I'm not wanting to wield, and honestly believe that in the current state of these pages, deletion of these redirects is the best option for our readers. In fact, I'm now on the fence on nominating Lakitu for WP:AFD. (Pinging Sergecross73 since after writing all of that, I now more strongly believe their thoughts regarding Lakitu have merit.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- I support sending it to AFD, and would likely be your first delete !vote. Sergecross73 msg me 19:36, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- What would a section like that realistically look like though? They're all essentially the same thing and self explanatory. "Fishin' Lakitu is a Lakitu who has a fishing pole and fishes." "Thunder Lakitu has the power of electricity". "Pipe Lakitu comes out of a pipe." "Princess Lakitu is a female Lakitu in a dress". It's not like they have rich backstories or any real-life significance to the video game industry. They're just little extras that jump out at Mario in games. Sergecross73 msg me 19:36, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.