. Discussion died out nearly two weeks ago, without a meaningful consensus. This is probably closer to keep by strength of arguments, but I see no consensus on what to do with it. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:10, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- {{no redirect|1 = Heart pain }} → :Angina (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heart_pain&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-12-17&end=2019-01-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Heart_pain stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Heart pain|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Heart pain closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Heart pain|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Heart pain closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Heart pain|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Heart pain closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
Delete. "Heart pain" can have various reasons, and hence, that term is not to be restricted merely to angina pectoris. Hildeoc (talk) 22:23, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- This feels like the sort of title that would be best targetted at a broad concept article or set index. Thryduulf (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
:: This could be a dab, referring to chest pain, angina, heartache, or other ideas. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep, the target article discusses heart pain... I don't think the metaphorical sense (eg: Heartache) would be referred to as "heart pain" and chest pain is too broad and focuses on things that aren't related to the heart. Without any other suggestions, that defaults to keeping it as is. -- Tavix (talk) 21:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Chest pain. I agree that this is too broad to be pointed to one type of heart pain. Chest pain lists many types of heart pain, and while it's not all heart-related, I'm comfortable with this just as a matter of basic anatomy. --BDD (talk) 15:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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- Retarget per BDD. "Heart pain" is too generic for medical purposes, since it just reflects what you feel: pain vaguely coming from the area of the heart, i.e. the chest. If you're able to be more precise as far as the origin (e.g. you know it's angina), you won't use such an imprecise term as "heart pain". Nyttend (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|BDD|Nyttend}} Then it should be taken care that the term "heart pain" is mentioned there (in boldface) as per WP:LEAST.--Hildeoc (talk) 17:50, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
::No, WP:LEAST says nothing about bolding extra terms in unhelpful places. Nyttend (talk) 21:24, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
:::{{re|Nyttend}} See MOS:BOLD#OTHER: {{!xt|Use boldface in the remainder of the article only in a few special cases: To follow the "principle of least astonishment" after following a redirect, for terms in the first couple of paragraphs of an article, or at the beginning of a section of an article, which are the subjects of redirects to the article or section (for example, subtopics of the article's topic, rather than the synonyms as already boldfaced per the above) {{crossref|(See {{section link|Wikipedia:Redirect|What needs to be done on pages that are targets of redirects?}} for examples and further details.)}}}}--Hildeoc (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, since angina is heart pain, or better described as pain over the referred area of pain from the heart, and the chest pain article refers to pain in the entire chest.
{{u|waddie96}} {talk} 10:52, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
::{{re|Waddie96}} And yet, the term in question as such should appear in a proper manner within the target, i. e. as provided by the relevant guidelines of the above policy as well as WP:R#PLA.--Hildeoc (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep this is the logical target of the redirect. --Tom (LT) (talk) 04:49, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
::{{re|Tom (LT)}} Well, in which particular respect do you think that is "the logical target"? Cannot a feeling described as "heart pain" [https://www.healthyandnaturalworld.com/my-heart-hurts/ hark back, as well, to reasons other than angina pectoris as such]?--Hildeoc (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
:::In the sense that a lay person might use it as a search term to describe what is angina pectoris. You do make a good point though, I just don't think that is likely to be a term people will search for per se.--Tom (LT) (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Having looked at the google results its very clear that Angina is not the primary topic for "heart pain" - that would be a mixture of chest pain, heart attack and heartburn so I stand by my recommendation of disambiguation. Thryduulf (talk) 01:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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