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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 21, 2019.

==Park Street, Cambridge==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:41, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Park Street, Cambridge }} → :Jesus Lane  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Park_Street,_Cambridge&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Park_Street%2C_Cambridge stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Park Street, Cambridge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Park Street, Cambridge closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Park Street, Cambridge|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Park Street, Cambridge closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Park Street, Cambridge|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Park Street, Cambridge closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirect target is an article on a different street that happens to intersect Park Street, but the article doesn't mention that fact at all (nor should it). Redirecting to the Cambridge article wouldn't be helpful. Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:27, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep – I added mention of the street and the ADC Theatre there under Jesus Lane. —Jonathan Bowen (talk) 21:35, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep: even a complete lack of a mention isn't a reason to delete a redirect. It isn't misleading, spam, abusive, highly unlikely, or any of the other standard reasons to get rid. Now that the redirect target mentions it, it is a nailed-on keep. Lithopsian (talk) 21:42, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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==ATTINGAL PARVATHIPURAM GRAMOM - SREE MAHA GANAPATHY TEMPLE==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:38, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Delete per WP:RCAPS UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:42, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as unlikely capitalization --Lenticel (talk) 01:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Cogency==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:38, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Cogency }} → :Logical reasoning  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cogency&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cogency stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Cogency|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cogency closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cogency|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cogency closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cogency|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Cogency closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in given target article. Hildeoc (talk) 19:19, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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==THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. DELETE ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:26, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY }} → :Tyranny of the majority  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=THE_TYRANNY_OF_THE_MAJORITY&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=THE_TYRANNY_OF_THE_MAJORITY stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete per WP:RCAPS, this subject has no affinity with all caps. -- Tavix (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Flow arts==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:27, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Flow arts }} → :Category:Physical activity and dexterity toys  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flow_arts&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-02&end=2019-01-31&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Flow_arts stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Flow arts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Flow arts closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Flow arts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Flow arts closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Flow arts|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Flow arts closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete no indication of how this redirect relates to its cross-namespace target. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:32, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I made the redirect, have been involved in "flow arts" since before 'flow' was a common term. In those days, 'Dexterity Play' was a common term for playing with toys that require or build dexterity, and the articles in the category are articles involving 'toys' and 'props' used for dexterity play AKA flow arts. If we had an article on flow arts, then we would not need a redirect, we would refer to the category in the article. right now it may be nearly impossible to have an NPOV article on flow arts. Try it and see. User:Pedant (talk) 22:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

:I would have no problem with retargeting to List of skill toys, which is the target for the dexterity play redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:05, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

::would be awesome if someone made sure the list has all the toys/props/tools/gear/arts included in the category from which the redirect was made. Otherwise I think this one is solved/done and ready to archive the discussion. Thanks to anyone involved! User:Pedant (talk) 01:30, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

:::That is separate maintenance that is unrelated to the redirect discussion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete. From my understanding, List of skill toys is not going to be what someone searching "flow arts" expects to find. Properly a red link. --Bsherr (talk) 17:22, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: The above discussion seems worth considering further.

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Delete Per nominator; makes no sense. --Geolodus (talk) 18:31, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete I have to agree with what has already been said here. A loose necktie (talk) 04:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Robert de La Salle==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Robert de La Salle }} → :René-Robert Cavelier, Sieur de La Salle  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_de_La_Salle&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-04&end=2019-02-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Robert_de_La_Salle stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Robert de La Salle|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Robert de La Salle closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Robert de La Salle|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Robert de La Salle closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Robert de La Salle|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Robert de La Salle closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

{{user|Sbalfour}} blanked this redirect saying "no citation can be found to support this - it is not his name". I haven't researched this and I myself have no opinion - this is a procedural nomination. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 20:57, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

:This redirect page mixes part of a name and part of a title, of which there are numerous variants. This page name used to be an alternate title of the article itself, and challenged [citation required]. I cannot find a scholarly citation that states his name thus, so I deleted the errant name. Robert La Salle for example, was another person, a prominent resident of New Orleans in the 1800's but not notable enough to have a wiki article. Is that the same name as Robert de La Salle? I'd say it is, and that it's just another wayward misspelling. The page name is not the name of anyone and shouldn't point, well, anywhere. Sbalfour (talk) 21:26, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep, whether it is incorrect or not it is used in various sources (e.g. [https://www.mrnussbaum.com/explorers/robert_sieur_de_la_salle/], [http://chettdog.tripod.com/robert-de-la-salle.html], [https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h4122.html], [http://www.district106.net/html/downloads/5M/13bezsia/Robert_De_La_salle.html], etc) so it's very likely people will use this search term when looking for the Wikipedia article about him. What matters for redirects is that they are useful search terms, not necessarily correct (see :Category:Redirects from incorrect names), correcting misconceptions, etc is the job of the target article. Thryduulf (talk) 13:40, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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  • Keep per Thryduulf's identification of sources that use the form. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thyrduulf. It doesn't matter if the name is correct or incorrect, readers could be searching for this name, and the primary objective is to point them to the right place. Any confusion can be cleared up in the article. Narky Blert (talk) 09:40, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Ica/ica-refactor==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:38, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Ica/ica-refactor }} → :ICA  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ica/ica-refactor&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Ica%2Fica-refactor stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ica/ica-refactor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ica/ica-refactor closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ica/ica-refactor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ica/ica-refactor closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ica/ica-refactor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ica/ica-refactor closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Temporary title left over from move. I have several similar cases. Would it be helpful for me to continue listing these singly, together or not at all; or do they qualify for a speedy G6? Certes (talk) 16:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as housekeeping. I would G6 pages like this as 'unambiguously created in error'. Narky Blert (talk) 12:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as housekeeping --Lenticel (talk) 01:42, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Temperance/redirs==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:38, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Temperance/redirs }} → :Temperance  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Temperance/redirs&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Temperance%2Fredirs stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Temperance/redirs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Temperance/redirs closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Temperance/redirs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Temperance/redirs closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Temperance/redirs|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Temperance/redirs closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Temporary page left over from round robin move. Certes (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as housekeeping. (The one time I left a page behind like that, I spotted it and embarrassedly WP:G7ed myself.) Narky Blert (talk) 12:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
  • delete as housekeeping --Lenticel (talk) 13:24, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Havoc/disambiguation2==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Havoc/disambiguation2 }} → :Havoc#Music  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Havoc/disambiguation2&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Havoc%2Fdisambiguation2 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Havoc/disambiguation2|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Havoc/disambiguation2 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Havoc/disambiguation2|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Havoc/disambiguation2 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Havoc/disambiguation2|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Havoc/disambiguation2 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not a helpful search term. Non-musical forms of havoc are available. Certes (talk) 16:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Swinging/Archive 1==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Swinging/Archive 1 }} → :Swing  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Swinging/Archive_1&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Swinging%2FArchive_1 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Swinging/Archive 1|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Swinging/Archive 1 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Swinging/Archive 1|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Swinging/Archive 1 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Swinging/Archive 1|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Swinging/Archive 1 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not a search term for target. Talk:Swinging/Archive 1 has significant content and should be kept, but the mainspace redirect can go. Certes (talk) 15:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete - as per Certes, not a valid search term.Onel5969 TT me 16:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 01:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Czechs/First Archive==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Czechs/First Archive }} → :Czech  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Czechs/First_Archive&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Czechs%2FFirst_Archive stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Czechs/First Archive|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Czechs/First Archive closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Czechs/First Archive|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Czechs/First Archive closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Czechs/First Archive|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Czechs/First Archive closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Title not relevant to target. No significant history or talk page. Certes (talk) 15:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete - not a relevant search target.Onel5969 TT me 16:36, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as confusing. Looks like someone wanted to make a talk archive for the page. --Lenticel (talk) 01:52, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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==History.com/games.do==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = History.com/games.do }} → :History (disambiguation)#Media  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History.com/games.do&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=History.com%2Fgames.do stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:History.com/games.do|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#History.com/games.do closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:History.com/games.do|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#History.com/games.do closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:History.com/games.do|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#History.com/games.do closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Closed [https://web.archive.org/web/20100209142320/https://History.com/games.do online games page] not covered on Wikipedia Certes (talk) 15:43, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete as confusing at best since we don't cover the game and it no longer active in the first place --Lenticel (talk) 01:51, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Henry VI or Henry VII==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:40, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Henry VI or Henry VII }} → :Henri, Count of Paris  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_VI_or_Henry_VII&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Henry_VI_or_Henry_VII stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Henry VI or Henry VII|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Henry VI or Henry VII closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Henry VI or Henry VII|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Henry VI or Henry VII closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Henry VI or Henry VII|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Henry VI or Henry VII closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unhelpful "either/or" redirect, where the reader could more easily look up the option they seek. Makes other Henrys harder to find. See also WP:XY. Certes (talk) 15:15, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per above and as an unrealistic search term (unlike e.g. James VI and I, which is a good article title). Narky Blert (talk) 12:06, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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==List of First Ladies and Gentlemen of Brazil==

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==Glory God and gold==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. This has been here for three and a half weeks, and I don't think we've reached a good consensus. The keeps have stronger arguments, although I don't find them to be particularly strong arguments for the current target, just not to delete them. A potential retarget candidate makes a good point (and is perhaps the reason why this is a no consensus keep rather than leaning keep) but has been untouched for over two weeks. We could relist this, but I don't think we're getting anywhere beyond the status quo. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:24, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Glory God and gold }} → :Imperialism  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Glory_God_and_gold&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-05&end=2019-02-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Glory_God_and_gold stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Glory God and gold|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Glory God and gold closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Glory God and gold|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Glory God and gold closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Glory God and gold|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Glory God and gold closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
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  • {{no redirect|1 = God, Glory, Gold }} → :Imperialism  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=God,_Glory,_Gold&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-05&end=2019-02-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=God%2C_Glory%2C_Gold stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:God, Glory, Gold|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#God, Glory, Gold closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:God, Glory, Gold|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#God, Glory, Gold closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:God, Glory, Gold|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#God, Glory, Gold closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
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  • {{no redirect|1 = The 3 G's }} → :Imperialism  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_3_G%27s&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-05&end=2019-02-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_3_G%27s stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:The 3 G's|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The 3 G's closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The 3 G's|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The 3 G's closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The 3 G's|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The 3 G's closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
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  • {{no redirect|1 = The three G's }} → :Imperialism  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_three_G%27s&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-05&end=2019-02-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_three_G%27s stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:The three G's|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The three G's closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The three G's|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The three G's closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The three G's|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The three G's closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
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Neither God, gold, glory (in any order) nor the three G's appear in the target article, which may be confusing for someone looking for specific information about either of these phrases. -- Tavix (talk) 18:01, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete. These redirects might cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:32, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep unless there are competing uses. It's anecdotally ascribed to various sources that early European seafarers sought new oceanic trade routes to Asia and Africa ("gold") at a time when all of the major overland routes were controlled by Muslims ("god"), and of course for their own achievement ("glory"). I'm having trouble finding a reliable source for this but see [https://www.lcps.org/cms/lib4/VA01000195/Centricity/Domain/4153/Foldable%20-%204a%20info%20sheet.pdf this] (which might be someone's homework). The search for new routes to Asia led Columbus to crash in the west Indies, which has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. (Perhaps European colonization of the Americas would be a better target) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. Confusion not a common description or alternate name OrlandoCityFan (talk) 20:38, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Funny, this makes me think of "The Virginia Company" from Pocahontas (n.b., the phrase isn't used at Virginia Company or London Company). I understand the current targeting, though also how they could be confusing for readers. Glory, God and Gold is apparently a book by Paul Wellman, though that seems like it would be a huge WP:SURPRISE. --BDD (talk) 22:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep, (at least for those that are spelled out); a Google Books search brings up multiple relevant results: [https://books.google.com/books?id=2pdxDwAAQBAJ][https://books.google.com/books?id=-_wkuwEACAAJ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiiv5CUvKTgAhUuNOwKHUGKCVgQ6AEIRDAE][https://books.google.com/books?id=AaM4V2sc9PMC&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiiv5CUvKTgAhUuNOwKHUGKCVgQ6AEINjAC][https://books.google.nl/books?id=05WlPQAACAAJ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiiv5CUvKTgAhUuNOwKHUGKCVgQ6AEILzAB]. It seems a common enough phrase summing up the motivations for imperialism. Huon (talk) 14:25, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 19:57, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Age of Exploration. Most searches point to a number of school presentations for that part of the exploration (European settlements in the Americas), although the imperialism article discuses early imperialism 15-19th century. Here's encyclopedia.com [https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/applied-and-social-sciences-magazines/gold-god-and-glory] and National Humanities Center website [http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/amerbegin/exploration/exploration.htm] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:26, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

==LLoyd Bridges==

File:White x in red rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was delete

. So, this is delete, but only because all the non-delete ones were struck a week ago. I initially was going to relist this, despite seeing consensus, and got so far as to write the following:

{{tq|This is probably overly-pedantic, and I apologize for that, but the items "officially" nominated here have changed a few times over the course of this discussion. While there does appear to be a consensus about what to do (as evidenced by the nominator's strikes)}}

In the end, there's a consensus here about what to do — had the nominator not struck all the LL titles, my close of that would have resulted in the same outcome as this close — so I felt it improper to relist this in the face of a consensus for action. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 02:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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  • {{no redirect|1 = LLywarch Hen }} → :Llywarch Hen  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLywarch_Hen&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLywarch_Hen stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLywarch Hen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLywarch Hen closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLywarch Hen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLywarch Hen closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLywarch Hen|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLywarch Hen closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LLyron }} → :List of Marvel Comics characters: L#Llyron  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLyron&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLyron stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLyron|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLyron closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLyron|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLyron closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLyron|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLyron closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LLoyd R. Woodson }} → :Lloyd R. Woodson  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLoyd_R._Woodson&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLoyd_R._Woodson stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLoyd R. Woodson|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd R. Woodson closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd R. Woodson|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd R. Woodson closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd R. Woodson|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd R. Woodson closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LLoyd N. Trefethen }} → :Lloyd N. Trefethen  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLoyd_N._Trefethen&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLoyd_N._Trefethen stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLoyd N. Trefethen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd N. Trefethen closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd N. Trefethen|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd N. Trefethen closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd N. Trefethen|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd N. Trefethen closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LLoyd George }} → :David Lloyd George  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLoyd_George&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLoyd_George stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLoyd George|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd George closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd George|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd George closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd George|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd George closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LLoyd Bitzer }} → :Lloyd Bitzer  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLoyd_Bitzer&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLoyd_Bitzer stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLoyd Bitzer|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd Bitzer closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd Bitzer|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd Bitzer closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLoyd Bitzer|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLoyd Bitzer closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LLifén }} → :Llifén  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LLif%C3%A9n&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LLif%C3%A9n stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LLifén|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLifén closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LLifén|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLifén closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LLifén|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LLifén closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
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  • {{no redirect|1 = LIght Year (Isakov song) }} → :Gregory Alan Isakov  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIght_Year_(Isakov_song)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIght_Year_%28Isakov_song%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIght Year (Isakov song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIght Year (Isakov song) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIght Year (Isakov song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIght Year (Isakov song) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIght Year (Isakov song)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIght Year (Isakov song) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIght-emitting diode physics }} → :Light-emitting diode physics  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIght-emitting_diode_physics&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIght-emitting_diode_physics stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIght-emitting diode physics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIght-emitting diode physics closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIght-emitting diode physics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIght-emitting diode physics closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIght-emitting diode physics|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIght-emitting diode physics closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIfe under Ottoman rule }} → :Culture of the Ottoman Empire  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIfe_under_Ottoman_rule&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIfe_under_Ottoman_rule stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIfe under Ottoman rule|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIfe under Ottoman rule closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIfe under Ottoman rule|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIfe under Ottoman rule closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIfe under Ottoman rule|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIfe under Ottoman rule closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIberty (sternwheeler) }} → :Liberty (sternwheeler)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIberty_(sternwheeler)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIberty_%28sternwheeler%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIberty (sternwheeler)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIberty (sternwheeler) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIberty (sternwheeler)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIberty (sternwheeler) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIberty (sternwheeler)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIberty (sternwheeler) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIbélula viblandi }} → :Villamil Libélula Viblandi  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIb%C3%A9lula_viblandi&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIb%C3%A9lula_viblandi stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIbélula viblandi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIbélula viblandi closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIbélula viblandi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIbélula viblandi closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIbélula viblandi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIbélula viblandi closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIbelula viblandi }} → :Villamil Libélula Viblandi  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIbelula_viblandi&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIbelula_viblandi stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIbelula viblandi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIbelula viblandi closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIbelula viblandi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIbelula viblandi closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIbelula viblandi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIbelula viblandi closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This redirect is not accurate: capitalising Viblandi is indeed correct, but Villamil is not correct: the surname of the engineer is either "Cantero" or "Cantero Villamil", according to the Spanish naming convention.

Now, it is also not clear whether adding the surname at the beginning is adequate. Which Wikipedia convention supports this change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Espigaymostaza (talk • contribs) 16:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = LI xianting }} → :Li Xianting  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LI_xianting&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LI_xianting stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LI xianting|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LI xianting closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LI xianting|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LI xianting closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LI xianting|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LI xianting closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIst of Schools in Kepong }} → :List of schools in Kuala Lumpur  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIst_of_Schools_in_Kepong&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIst_of_Schools_in_Kepong stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIst of Schools in Kepong|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of Schools in Kepong closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIst of Schools in Kepong|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of Schools in Kepong closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIst of Schools in Kepong|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of Schools in Kepong closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIst of LMS }} → :List of learning management systems  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIst_of_LMS&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIst_of_LMS stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIst of LMS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of LMS closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIst of LMS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of LMS closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIst of LMS|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of LMS closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders }} → :Invasion of Normandy  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LIst_of_Battle_of_Normandy_leaders&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=LIst_of_Battle_of_Normandy_leaders stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#LIst of Battle of Normandy leaders closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

DElete STicky shift key creates typos. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:29, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • DElete. Sentence-case versions exist for all the lists except List of LMS, which would be ambiguous. Certes (talk) 13:52, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • :...but there may be a case for keeping the ones beginning with LL as this is a single letter in Welsh, Spanish, etc. as we do with Dutch IJ in IJmuiden etc. Certes (talk) 15:46, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • ::I intentionally left off any double Ls that had any close connection to Welsh, Catalan, etc., such as {{no redirect|1 = Lluís del Milà}} → :Luis de Milán. None of the above (David Lloyd George arguable exception) have such a connection. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • rElist, it took me a moment to see the concern, so I would like more eyes on this; there is a broad array of relevant wikiprojects that need notifying and someone ought to read MOs;CAPs for the rule on this. cygnis insignis 15:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm neutral on whether to keep these, but if they are, the US employers one should be retargeted to List of largest employers in the United States. Smartyllama (talk) 15:18, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete all LI's. Keep all LL's. Not only is there the single Welsh letter, but also, younger users (as happened in one of my classrooms the other day), might mistakenly capitalize both of the LL's in certain names (although in that instance, the child typed in LLoyd Bridges, and they couldn't understand why there was no article on him. Onel5969 TT me 16:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete all per nom, including the "LL" redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 16:49, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. Redirects for this kind of typographical error are unnecessary. When no page is found, the error will be noticed by the user, or the search results will indicate the correct page. --Bsherr (talk) 17:24, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment. STicky FIngers on shift keys do create typos, which is why the {{-r|LIght Year (Isakov song)}} redirect was created back in 2012 (before the WP search engine would ignore such a typo). These days such redirects are not needed; however, they are harmless. My instinct says "keep", but not really averse to deletion. Paine Ellsworth, ed.  put'r there  17:41, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep the "LL"s. At worst, keeping them is harmless. And as noted above, such typos do occur. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep all/ without prejudice to smaller nominations - there are too many different redirects with different (alleged) problems. Thryduulf (talk) 15:19, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Procedural keep on LL. I don't know much about Welsh, but I know it has an affinity for initial double L, and perhaps it's plausible (at least) to capitalise both of them. It's potentially a different situation from the English names beginning with LI, so we ought to be able to look at them separately. Please withdraw the LLs, and renominate them if you disagree with the keep-the-LLs reasons given above. The concept that no Welsh topics were nominated is incorrect; for example, our knowledge of Llywarch Hen is heavily dependent on the Bonedd Gwŷr y Gogledd, a Welsh document, and as a sixth-century Brythonic figure, he's closely connected to the Welsh even aside from the language of the earliest sources. Nyttend (talk) 22:45, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

:*LLs struck as requested. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:57, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Salem-Keizer, Oregon==

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==Spunti e ricerche;==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Spunti e ricerche; }} → :Spunti e ricerche  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spunti_e_ricerche;&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Spunti_e_ricerche%3B stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Spunti e ricerche;|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Spunti e ricerche; closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Spunti e ricerche;|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Spunti e ricerche; closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Spunti e ricerche;|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Spunti e ricerche; closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete. Semi-colon makes this an implausable redirect and of no real use. PC78 (talk) 00:31, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Spunge (album==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Spunge (album }} → :Spunge  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spunge_(album&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-22&end=2019-02-20&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Spunge_%28album stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Spunge (album|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Spunge (album closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Spunge (album|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Spunge (album closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Spunge (album|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Spunge (album closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete. Missing closing bracket makes this an implausable redirect and of no real use. PC78 (talk) 00:31, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

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