Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 20#Wayne Tucker

• {{no redirect|1 = Search results }} → :Searching#Computing technology  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Search_results&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Search_results stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Search results|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Search results closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Search results|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Search results closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Search results|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Search results closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

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Still not a good redirect, as its lemma is not included in given target (dab page!), as opposed to WP:R#PLA. Also, no backlinks in mainspace. Hildeoc (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

• Retarget to Search engine results page, which is the most relevant article I can find on the most common meaning. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:03, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = N295ck }} → :Payne Stewart  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=N295ck&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=N295ck stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:N295ck|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#N295ck closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:N295ck|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#N295ck closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:N295ck|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#N295ck closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned at the target, the edit summary from when this was created is {{tq|Payne Stewart plane registry}}, which I don't think is a useful redirect. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:37, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

• Delete. That doesn't even look correct. Per 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash, the plane registry is (was?) N47BA. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• Delete As noted above, it seems to be incorrect and even if it was I'm not convinced it would be useful. Nigej (talk) 09:34, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
• keep It is the plane’s registry number, and it cost nothing to keep it here in case anyone searches for that unique obscure term. Tiptopper (talk)
• {{re|Tiptopper}} Could you please provide a source to back up your claim? As mentioned above, the target article does not support this redirect and the more relevant article, 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash uses N47BA as the plane registry number. The cost of the redirect is not in question, so that is irrelevant. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:55, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Load Bearing System }} → :M-1956 Load-Carrying Equipment  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Load_Bearing_System&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Load_Bearing_System stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Load Bearing System|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Load Bearing System closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Load Bearing System|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Load Bearing System closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Load Bearing System|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Load Bearing System closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Too general of a title, could also refer to Load-bearing wall _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:28, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

:i'm going to edit the page to Load Bearing Equipment one, you right, the Load-Bearing System can be LB-Structural-S, LB-Personal-S, etc.

:p.s. the redirect page was created to make correct references to solid pages in other languages.

:Ilias48rus (talk) 18:06, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

::all the needed edits are done, the Load Bearing System are free to delete. Ilias48rus (talk) 18:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Murus Mediae }} → :Median Wall  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murus_Mediae&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Murus_Mediae stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Murus Mediae|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murus Mediae closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Murus Mediae|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murus Mediae closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Murus Mediae|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murus Mediae closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Latin title for a Babylonian wall whose name appears to always be translated into English in English sources? Seems like a case of WP:FORRED _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:23, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

:The reason why I created this redirect is because I stumbled upon the term when looking at a map used somewhere in an article here on the English wikipedia (I forgot where exactly). I know Latin, but not everyone does, so someone else looking at the map might wonder about it, therefore I created a redirect. Michael! (talk) 18:14, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

• Keep per Michael! and google books results which show it is a term used occasionally, principally it seems in 19th Century works, with this meaning. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
• Keep Latin's long period of use as an international scholarly language makes me tolerant of this. --BDD (talk) 21:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = List of fasting advocates }} → :Category:Fasting advocates  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_fasting_advocates&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_fasting_advocates stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of fasting advocates|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of fasting advocates closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of fasting advocates|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of fasting advocates closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of fasting advocates|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of fasting advocates closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = List of food faddists }} → :Category:Pseudoscientific diet advocates  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_food_faddists&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_food_faddists stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of food faddists|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of food faddists closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of food faddists|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of food faddists closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of food faddists|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of food faddists closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = List of orthopaths }} → :Category:Orthopaths  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_orthopaths&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_orthopaths stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of orthopaths|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of orthopaths closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of orthopaths|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of orthopaths closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of orthopaths|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of orthopaths closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Per WP:REDIRECT, {{tq|Redirects from list articles to categories (e.g. a redirect from List of things to Category:Things are highly discouraged.}} _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

:I find these useful. For example if someone is searching for a list of food faddists/pseudoscientific authors it is redirected to the category where they are all listed. Psychologist Guy (talk) 18:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and WP:REDLINK. If these lists are desired, then actual lists should be created. -- Tavix ^(talk) 19:30, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• Reluctant delete. The guideline is pretty clear that this is a delete situation, although I have some sentiment that this is a case of a guideline that exists for guideline's sake (something that also is common with categories), and really isn't helping our readers. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

::I want to follow up by saying that expand is fine with me if someone wants to do it. --Tryptofish (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

• Expand into a proper list. A list can give more context than a cateogory (date, language, etc. ) and is hence much more useful. As for following guidelines that don't seem helpful, WP:IAR. DGG ( talk ) 05:18, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
• Expand per DGG. The guideline in question seems clear and reasonable enough in this context, but a proper list would be the better thing per WP:PRESERVE and WP:NOTCLEANUP. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:27, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
• Expand per DGG. I disagreed with elevating this idea to the status of guideline in part because of situations like this (and in part because there are times when redirecting to the category is actually going to be the best thing in the circumstances). We shoudln't need to IAR, but if that's what required then ignore away. Thryduulf (talk) 20:42, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
• Expand - I am in the process of expanding these into proper lists. Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:07, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
• Delete list of fasting advocates - I will be expanding the other two but not this one. Psychologist Guy (talk) 12:30, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

::List of food faddists and list of orthopaths have both been expanded. Psychologist Guy (talk) 15:30, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Wayne Tucker }} → :Oakland Police Department  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wayne_Tucker&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wayne_Tucker stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wayne Tucker|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wayne Tucker closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wayne Tucker|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wayne Tucker closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wayne Tucker|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wayne Tucker closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

There is no mention of Wayne Tucker at the target article. There are a few trivial passing mentions of people named Wayne Tucker in other articles, so it's probably best to let the search engine handle this. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:07, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Template:Wikipedia book }} → :Wikipedia:Books  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wikipedia_book&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3AWikipedia_book stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Template:Wikipedia book|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Wikipedia book closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Template:Wikipedia book|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Wikipedia book closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Template:Wikipedia book|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Wikipedia book closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Retarget to Template:Wikipedia books, which seems like a more plausible and useful target both when searching and transcluding. Transcluding this redirect currently just gets you the target page's content. Geolodus (talk) 17:04, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

• Retarget per nom. The current cross-namespace redirect makes no sense. PC78 (talk) 17:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Mangal Pandey metro station }} → :Kolkata Metro Line 5  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mangal_Pandey_metro_station&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mangal_Pandey_metro_station stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Mangal Pandey metro station|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mangal Pandey metro station closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mangal Pandey metro station|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mangal Pandey metro station closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Mangal Pandey metro station|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mangal Pandey metro station closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No indication that this is actually an alternative name for the station at the target article or at its sources. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:01, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Junior professor }} → :Professor  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Junior_professor&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-09&end=2019-06-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Junior_professor stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Junior professor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Junior professor closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Junior professor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Junior professor closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Junior professor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Junior professor closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not included in given target. See WP:R#PLA. Hildeoc (talk) 18:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirect to Academic ranks in Germany where it's mentioned. fgnievinski (talk) 22:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

• Redirect per Fgnievinski _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• This rank is not exclusive to Germany. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22junior+professor%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns0=1&ns9=1&ns11=1 Uses on Wikipedia] show American usage, mostly in the past, though that's not a reason to disfavor them. There's at least one living academic whose article mentions a junior professor position, though it's possible there's confusion there with his time as a junior fellow. It might be better to retarget to List of academic ranks. Curiously, the German rank is only mentioned in a footnote there. "Junior associate professor" is listed for Japan. --BDD (talk) 15:12, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Karuthachan }} → :Kuttichathan  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karuthachan&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-08&end=2019-06-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Karuthachan stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Karuthachan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Karuthachan closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Karuthachan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Karuthachan closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Karuthachan|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Karuthachan closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

It's plausible that this is an alternate name for the subject, but it's not mentioned at the target, doesn't appear to be mentioned in the lead of the linked Malayalam Wikipedia article, and I don't see anything in a cursory internet search that would suggest that the terms are interchangeable. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

:Kuttichathans are a class of demons. Karuthachan is one them. There are around 390 Kuttichathans. Their names are Vishnumaya, Parakkutty, Arukolai, Karuthachan, Mookkan, Kappiri, Kurudi, Karimkannan, etc.

:The article Kuttichathan is being continuously vandalized by IP edits and recently a single purpose account User:Athuldevcr. These POV pushers want to remove all the information about other Kuttichathans except Vishnumaya because presumably they want to support the interests of sorcery businesses like [http://www.devasthanam.com this] and [http://www.kuttichathan.com this]. Once again I have reverted the article to the original form. You are invited to check it now before getting vandalized again. Also can you take some measures to stop spamming in the page? -99v (talk) 20:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

::That seems reasonable enough, although it would be good to see a reliable source backing this up (in which case I would go ahead and close this discussion). As for protecting the page, it looks like no one's made any changes for about a month, so I don't think there's anything to be done right now. If vandalism persists, put in a request at WP:RPP and try to engage the other editors on the talk page. If that doesn't work, bring it to WP:ANI. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:42, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

• delete and let the search engine do its work - Nabla (talk) 19:02, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
• Delete Not mentioned at the target article. Whatever the relationship between Karuthachan and Kuttichathan, the target article needs serious work. It indeed makes reference to multiple Kuttichathans, but the way the article is written now, "Vishnumaya" should really be the title. --BDD (talk) 17:54, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
• :I stand by part of my statement above, but at least the concern regarding this redirect have been addressed. --BDD (talk) 15:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

• Relisting comment. Karuthachan is now mentioned at the target article after [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kuttichathan&diff=902517004&oldid=902418245 this edit] by {{u|MrOllie}}. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:18, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = The Boys (film) }} → :Boy (disambiguation)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Boys_(film)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Boys_%28film%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:The Boys (film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Boys (film) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The Boys (film)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Boys (film) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The Boys (film)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Boys (film) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

A redirect to a DAB page with no full title matches. There is a film called The Boys (apparently only the one) - [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054697/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_12 IMDb entry] - on which we have no article. I propose deletion to encourage article creation. Retarget per PC78. Narky Blert (talk) 12:04, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

• Retarget to Boys (disambiguation). There are several articles for films with this title. PC78 (talk) 17:10, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• Retarget per PC78 and add {{tl|R from incomplete disambiguation}}. Geolodus (talk) 07:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Tōkyo }} → :Tokyo  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T%C5%8Dkyo&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-05-21&end=2019-06-19&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=T%C5%8Dkyo stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Tōkyo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tōkyo closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tōkyo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tōkyo closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tōkyo|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tōkyo closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This article should be deleted because there should be macrons on either no letters or both o's in Tokyo. We already have a redirect for the proper macron spelling Tōkyō. Tōkyo is inaccurate! Hkbusfan (talk) 06:17, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

• Keep as {{tl|R from mispelling}}. Narky Blert (talk) 12:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• Obvious keep. It's a simple misspelling. Nom should withdraw because he/she has missed the point. Bueller 007 (talk) 22:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
• I can withdraw. I completely missed the point. I understand this better now. Hkbusfan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:56, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

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