Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 25#Conduction block

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 25, 2019.

==The Eight Precepts==

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to Eight Precepts. (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 00:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = The Eight Precepts }}:Five precepts#Eight Precepts  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Eight_Precepts&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=The_Eight_Precepts stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:The Eight Precepts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Eight Precepts closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The Eight Precepts|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Eight Precepts closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The Eight Precepts|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#The Eight Precepts closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not required, Eight Precepts is already an article. Goes against WP:MOS principles for naming articles (inclusion of article). Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 23:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Eight precepts as a useful search term - redirects exist to allow people to find articles without having to get the title exactly correct and so do not have to follow article titling policy. Thryduulf (talk) 11:05, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Eight precepts per Thryduulf --Lenticel (talk) 00:56, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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==In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (utc) 01:22, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule }}:Vestibule (architecture)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=In_Architecture)_Porch_(or_Vestibule&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=In_Architecture%29_Porch_%28or_Vestibule stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#In Architecture) Porch (or Vestibule closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Delete both. Odd use of brackets and of unclear purpose. Unlikely search terms. PC78 (talk) 22:26, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete unless there is a good explanation. These do seem really odd redirects (the second was autocreated by a bot based on the first), but there must have been some reason for creation - the creator seems to be still around so I've left them a note. They get a surprising amount of hits - 24 last year and the year before, 23 the year before that, which is about 20 more than I'd expect for something like this, but Google is drawing a blank on what the source might be. Thryduulf (talk) 11:10, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Agp==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to AGP. (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 00:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Agp }}:Accelerated Graphics Port  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Agp&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Agp stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Agp|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Agp closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Agp|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Agp closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Agp|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Agp closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Retarget to AGP. Seems to be a logical target, unlike the current one. Mjroots (talk) 19:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Retarget per nom. This is where google's lack of case sensitivity is really frustrating, but I'm not seeing any obvious indication that Agp or agp has a primary topic (AGP in capitals clearly has none). Thryduulf (talk) 11:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Retarget to AGP per above --Lenticel (talk) 00:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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==The Professionals (2011 film)==

==Conduction block==

==Mayor Pete==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. ~ Amory (utc) 14:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Mayor Pete }}:Pete Buttigieg  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mayor_Pete&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Mayor_Pete stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Mayor Pete|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mayor Pete closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mayor Pete|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mayor Pete closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Mayor Pete|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Mayor Pete closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirect from massively ambiguous title to one name: Pete Buttigieg. Wikipedia has articles on 7 mayors named "Pete" (including Pete Buttigieg), and to 138 other mayors who first names begin with "Peter", any or all of whom may be known by the common abbreviation "Pete". (Full list on the talk page: WT:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 March 17#Mayor_Pete).

We could in theory convert this to a disambiguation page, but is really a good use of editorial time to create and maintain several thousand "JobTitle Firstname" disambiguation pages? It would require huge ongoing effort to keep them up to-date, and I think that readers would be better served by searching.

Note that I RFDed this at WP:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_17#Mayor_Pete, but the creator asked for it to be G7ed. It has been re-created by a different editor,@Volunteer Marek. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep as the primary topic. "Mayor Pete" is a common nickname for Buttigieg that he himself encourages. I see "Mayor Pete" without a last name qualifier used for Pete Buttigieg but not for any of the other notable mayors named Pete(r). Examples include: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pete-buttigieg-has-broken-through-the-noise-on-community-and-religion/2019/03/24/8fc72084-4ce0-11e9-93d0-64dbcf38ba41_story.html "'Mayor Pete', as he's known" (WaPo)] [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/pete_buttigieg-36-year-old-mayor-south-bend-indiana-2020-713662/ "'Mayor Pete,' as he encourages everyone to call him" (Rolling Stone)] [https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/that-was-an-undeniable-moment-mayor-pete-shines-in-town-hall/vp-BBUElVv "Mayor Pete shines in town hall" (MSN)]. I don't think it should be disambiguated unless it can be shown any of the other notable mayors are known as such. I only found Pete Fosselman [https://petefosselman.com/biography here], but he isn't notable. -- Tavix (talk) 15:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep – The term "Mayor Pete" isn't really used for any other mayor whose name happens to be Pete. See [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Mayor%20Pete Google Trends]; the only notable peaks are around February 2017 (when Buttigieg ran for DNC chair) and since January 2019. Conifer (talk) 15:53, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - This is a publicly known nickname for Buttigieg and redirects are cheap.- MrX 🖋 16:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - :WP:COMMONNAME. If there is one guy who's known as "Mayor Pete" then it's this one. I'm not entirely opposed to a disambig page, but I think a lot of people will be typing "Mayor Pete" into the search bar looking for him.Volunteer Marek (talk) 17:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep Very common nickname. Who cares how many mayors there are named Pete(r) if only one of them is called "Mayor Pete"? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 04:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Neutral. (Original G7 editor) - I'm on Wikibreak, but another matter brought me online. Figured I'd just request that if this is kept, then the rcats I tagged it with previously be restored. That's all I got. –MJLTalk 03:16, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Tails (producer)==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (utc) 01:22, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Tails (producer) }}:Monstercat  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tails_(producer)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Tails_%28producer%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Tails (producer)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tails (producer) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tails (producer)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tails (producer) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tails (producer)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tails (producer) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in the target article and no other suitable target; removed from article early this year. Apparently, this artist only contributed [https://www.monstercat.com/release/MCS685 one song] to the record label in 2018. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 15:07, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete - There has been a rash of brief articles and redirects for people loosely associated with the Monstercat record label, possibly created for promotional purposes. For this particular redirect, I agree with the nominator's reasoning. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 13:48, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Template:Tempalte display==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. Leftover from a typo, it seems; only existed at this title for 22 minutes.

Sidenote: I make this typo all the damn time but in the namespace portion (e.g. Tempalte:Typo) ~ Amory (utc) 14:36, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Template:Tempalte display }}:Template:Template display  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Tempalte_display&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3ATempalte_display stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Template:Tempalte display|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Tempalte display closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Template:Tempalte display|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Tempalte display closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Template:Tempalte display|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Tempalte display closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete Unlikely typo. How unlikely? It's unused. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:38, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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==ერაყი==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (utc) 14:33, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = ერაყი }}:Iraq  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E1%83%94%E1%83%A0%E1%83%90%E1%83%A7%E1%83%98&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%E1%83%94%E1%83%A0%E1%83%90%E1%83%A7%E1%83%98 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:ერაყი|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ერაყი closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:ერაყი|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ერაყი closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:ერაყი|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ერაყი closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No idea why the Georgian name (or transliteration) for Iraq would be a good redirect on the English language Wikipedia. Fram (talk) 13:32, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

{{ping|Fram}} Why I do it? Because in Georgian Iraq (erak(y)i-ერაყი), every languages has redirects in enwiki, that's why---ჯეო (talk) 13:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)--ჯეო (talk) 13:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

:The only non-Latin script redirects to Iraq on enwiki are in Arabic script, we don't have redirects in Cyrillic, Thai, Chinese (Mandarin), Japanese, ... scripts. In general, we don't use redirect in languages and scripts which have no clear, major link to either English (as the language of this wiki) or the main language(s) of the subject of the target article. Georgia and Iraq don't even share a border. Fram (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Tater salad==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ~ Amory (utc) 14:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Tater salad }}:Potato salad  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tater_salad&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-15&end=2019-03-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Tater_salad stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Tater salad|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tater salad closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tater salad|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tater salad closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tater salad|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tater salad closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The phrase "tater salad" isn't used anywhere in the {{xt|Potato salad}} article, and I doubt many people are searching for information on potato salad using this colloquial term, so I suggest retargeting to {{xt|Ron White}}. Nor should anyone be WP:ASTONISHED to end up at the comedian's bio, based on a Google image search for [https://www.google.com/search?&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%22tater+salad%22 "tater salad"]. For the few who might be, we just include a hatnote linking to Potato salad. No incoming mainspace links, so link breaking is not an issue. Sangdeboeuf (talk) 17:29, 17 March 2019 (UTC) {{small |(edited 01:30, 18 March 2019 (UTC))}}

: Changing request to delete given that the nickname is capitalized as {{xt|{{no redirect |Tater Salad}}}}. So there seems to be no need for this redirect. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 19:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete not something worth mentioning at potato salad and I'd be astonished to land on a comedian's page. Legacypac (talk) 23:45, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per Legacypac. Thryduulf (talk) 15:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget per nom. Commonly used nickname for the comedian, to the point he even has tatersalad.com as his homepage. --BDD (talk) 15:44, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

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==2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. As noted below, redirects need not be neutral, only useful and plausible. ~ Amory (utc) 14:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = 2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage }}:2019 Venezuelan blackout  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_Venezuelan_power_grid_sabotage&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-15&end=2019-03-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=2019_Venezuelan_power_grid_sabotage stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Procedural nomination. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Venezuelan power grid sabotage. wumbolo ^^^ 12:53, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

:*Delete Misleading and false, violation of WP:NPOV. --Jamez42 (talk) 05:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep. Citing article text with sources:
  • "The administration of Nicolás Maduro blamed foreign US sabotage for the outage"
  • "Prosecutor General Tarek William Saab announced an investigation of Guaidó for sabotage"
  • "China had received reports that the power grid had gone down due to a hacking attack"
  • "Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Russia agrees with Maduro that Western sabotage caused the power outage in Venezuela."
  • More reactions with sabotage/attack mentions: President of Bolivia Evo Morales [https://www.efe.com/efe/america/portada/evo-morales-califica-de-cobarde-atentado-terrorista-el-apagon-en-venezuela/20000064-3920027], President of Cuba Miguel Díaz-Canel [https://www.europapress.es/internacional/noticia-diaz-canel-acusa-eeuu-hostigar-venezuela-librar-guerra-despiadada-contra-pais-20190313011843.html]
  • Hardly a violation of NPOV. It should be the title of the original article, the event has been named sabotage/attack by several authorities, so a redirect is appropriate. emijrp (talk) 08:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

::*Comment At most "allegations" should be added to the redirect. --Jamez42 (talk) 10:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

::I figured that I should provide examples on how these are allegations and there aren't proofs of it being an "attack" or a "sabotage":

::* "Sources cited by Corpoelec (the state-owned national electricity company) indicated a vegetation fire occurred on three lines of 765 kV between the Gurí Dam and the Malena and San Gerónimo B substations. The fire overheated the lines, triggering load rejection mechanisms that protect the lines connected to the dam. According to the School of Electrical Engineering of the Central University of Venezuela, the momentary loss of power at the Gurí Dam caused the turbines to increase their speed, creating an overload on electrical systems."

::* "Satellite images show that the vegetation fire in the Guri started a day before the blackout."

::* "Engineers and analysts quoted by The Guardian say the cause is underfunding and mismanagement"

::* "Venezuelan energy experts cited by El Pitazo have rejected the theory that the blackout was caused by sabotage, since the area of the Gurí Dam is heavily guarded by members of the Armed Forces, where it operates a special command and the internal security of Corpolec."

::* "These specialists have also pointed out that Gurí was constructed before the Internet existed, does not use the Internet, hence does not allow for hacking."

::* "A risk management consultant cited by El Nacional dismissed the statement by government officials and assured that the design of the hydroelectric plant system does not allow "attacks" of that type."

:::Quoting governemnt officials and their allies it's very different from quoting details and experts in the area--Jamez42 (talk) 11:23, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep and tag with {{t|R from non-neutral name}}. Easy call. --BDD (talk) 15:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete; while I am sympathetic to BDD's reasoning (tag as non-neutral), the problem is that these POV redirects result in a long-list of articles one has to sort through on search when trying to find a "2019 Venezuelan ..." topic. This is a POV, unnecessary redirect which only obscures searches for legit articles. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:28, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag per BDD and WP:RNEUTRAL. This is a term that people searching for this will plausibly use given its use elsewhere. The tiny inconvenience to those looking for other 2019 Venezuelan topics is unfortunate by far outweighed by those looking for this article at this title. Thryduulf (talk) 10:58, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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==2019 Venezuelan power grid attack==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. As noted, redirects need not be neutral, only useful and plausible. ~ Amory (utc) 14:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = 2019 Venezuelan power grid attack }}:2019 Venezuelan blackout  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019_Venezuelan_power_grid_attack&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-15&end=2019-03-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=2019_Venezuelan_power_grid_attack stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:2019 Venezuelan power grid attack|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Venezuelan power grid attack closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:2019 Venezuelan power grid attack|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Venezuelan power grid attack closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:2019 Venezuelan power grid attack|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#2019 Venezuelan power grid attack closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Procedural nomination. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Venezuelan power grid attack. wumbolo ^^^ 12:51, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

:*Delete Misleading and false, violation of WP:NPOV. --Jamez42 (talk) 05:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

:::Rationale given above. --Jamez42 (talk) 11:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep. See my reply above. emijrp (talk) 08:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag with {{t|R from non-neutral name}}. Easy call. --BDD (talk) 15:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete; while I am sympathetic to BDD's reasoning (tag as non-neutral), the problem is that these POV redirects result in a long-list of articles one has to sort through on search when trying to find a "2019 Venezuelan ..." topic. This is a POV, unnecessary redirect which only obscures searches for legit articles. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:28, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag per my and BDD's comments in the discussion above. Thryduulf (talk) 10:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Draughtsman==

==Duggardesh==

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. ~ Amory (utc) 01:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Duggardesh }}:Jammu  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duggardesh&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-06&end=2019-03-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Duggardesh stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Duggardesh|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Duggardesh closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Duggardesh|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Duggardesh closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Duggardesh|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Duggardesh closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

WP:Hoax. No such place/name exists. Looks like the name was inserted in many articles (which has since been cleaned up) and this redirect created from that. Gotitbro (talk) 02:03, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

  • I have no recollection of what sources led me to create this redirect in 2012. Looking now, I see possible commercial use by websites but that's it. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
  • :{{re|Yngvadottir}}, there is *something* about Duggar Desh and Jammu... see: duggardeshnews.com ("Duggar Desh News [...] from the state of Jammu & Kashmir"), but beats me to know if it is a valid redirect or not. - Nabla (talk) 13:06, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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  • Comment. A search of the term did show some connection to Jammu, but without knowledge of the etymology of the term nor the reliability of the sources, I hesitate to give a formal opinion. [https://www.nativeplanet.com/jammu/ Native Planet says: "Jammu, otherwise known as Duggardesh, is one of the most visited destinations of India"]. [https://www.india.com/travel/jammu/ India.com notes that: "Formerly known as Duggardesh, (Jammu) is one of the three administrative divisions of Jammu and Kashmir"]. [http://dcmsme.gov.in/dips/DPS%20Poonch.pdf An Indian Government profile of Poonch district describes: "The Climate of Poonch is somewhat cooler than rest of the areas of Duggardesh plains."] -- Tavix (talk) 02:03, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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  • Keep and add matching redirect at Duggar Desh. Google Books search finds plenty of publications using it. Example: "The substance of Dogri folk songs is usually the praise of natural scenery of Duggar Desh..." - [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CNQcAQAAMAAJ&q=%22duggar+desh%22 Census of India, 1961: Jammu and Kashmir]. On which topic, at Dogri language we see: "Dogri speakers are called Dogras, and the Dogri-speaking region is called Duggar.", cited to: Narain, Lakshmi (1965). An Introduction to Dogri Folk Literature and Pahari Art. Jammu and Kashmir Academy of Art, Culture and Languages. The Britannica article for the Dogri language[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Dogri-language] says "Dogri (using the paleonym Duggar)..." so perhaps it should be a {{tl|R from former name}}, although I'd hesitate to put that on there without verification. Some people on Instagram are posting using the tag "#Dogradesh" as well, so there seems to be a transliteration issue here.  — Scott talk 16:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Nergling==

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to The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (video game)#Cast and characters. (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 06:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Nergling }}:The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nergling&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-27&end=2019-02-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Nergling stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Nergling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Nergling closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Nergling|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Nergling closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Nergling|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Nergling closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This seems to be a misspelling of the name of the henchmen for a minor villain in this series. I don't see why this exists. Paper Luigi TC 14:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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==EFC Worldwide==

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. Wrong place, you should go to WP:DRV to contest the deletion if you disagree (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 10:54, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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EFC Worldwide should be be redirected to EFC Africa as it the current name of EFC Africa. Dwanyewest (talk) 09:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Extreme Fighting Championship==

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Extreme Fighting Championship should be redirected to EFC Africa as it the original name of EFC Africa. Dwanyewest (talk) 09:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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==Industrial food==

==Hardline ideology==

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  • {{no redirect|1 = Hardline ideology }}:Hardline (subculture)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hardline_ideology&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hardline_ideology stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Hardline ideology|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hardline ideology closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hardline ideology|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hardline ideology closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hardline ideology|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hardline ideology closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Too broad of a title PrussianOwl (talk) 04:03, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep. "Hardline" is an ideology, described as such in the article. -- Tavix (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget per BDD, whose argument makes sense—especially so considering it is currently the primary topic. My original view of that article as "taking a stance" on something didn't really seem substantive enough to be an "ideology", but looking at the examples made me think otherwise.-- Tavix (talk) 15:16, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Hardline. Yes, the "hardline" of the target page is an ideology, but you could talk about a hardline version of just about any ideology. Not a great article, though. The Examples section has references but seems ill-conceived nonetheless. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Hardline per BDD. Thryduulf (talk) 15:59, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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==6 months same as cash==

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  • {{no redirect|1 = 6 months same as cash }}:Same as cash  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=6_months_same_as_cash&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-02-23&end=2019-03-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=6_months_same_as_cash stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:6 months same as cash|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#6 months same as cash closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:6 months same as cash|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#6 months same as cash closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:6 months same as cash|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#6 months same as cash closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Somewhat implausible redirect, arbitrary time period. PrussianOwl (talk) 04:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

:{{u|PrussianOwl}} I don't understand the issue; 6 months is a common (though not as common as 60 and 90 days) deferred payment time period for the same as cash model. Bneu2013 (talk) 04:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep, common phrase and covered in the article. -- Tavix (talk) 13:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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==List of role-playing video games: 2020 to 2021==

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. Unopposed ~ Amory (utc) 14:32, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:TOOSOON. There are currently no such video games listed for the given years, so such redirects for these years is a bit misleading. These redirects were created by moving some history around back in 2011, but the history is now back where it belongs. -- Tavix (talk) 01:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

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