Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 21#Freaks
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==List of Oldest Breweries of Canada==
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Some of the provinces have dates for some of the breweries, but it's not chiefly organized by date. A reader may get a general sense of some breweries that are older than most, but overall, this is misleading. BDD (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - if a reader is looking for the oldest breweries in Canada, this is where they will find that information. The current list setup is not ideal for this, but it gets the job done. Stats suggest 121 readers have looked for that information this month alone, so it's clearly useful. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Delete. The list is not sorted or has an option to be sorted by oldest breweries. In addition, there is also the issue/possibility that the "oldest breweries" that a reader is attempting to find is not at the target article. Best to just have the reader search the article title (rather than this redirect) so they have the expectation that they will find a list of breweries, but not necessarily the "oldest" ones. Steel1943 (talk) 19:55, 22 May 2019 (UTC)- Neutral on this now. Steel1943 (talk) 01:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_breweries_in_Canada&oldid=554963088 original subject] of the article was the "oldest breweries". It was subsequently moved ({{tl|r from page move}} needs to be added) to the more general page name and then the scope expanded. The list should be turned into a sortable table (something simple like Name/Location/Date
/Reference or other) so it would be easier to find the oldest ones (and to encourage editors to add the missing information), but the information is still present in the article and therefore the redirect should be kept. - PaulT[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 21:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC) - ...The target article currently does not contain a sortable table, and yes, this resurrect is an {{Tl|R from move}}, but that doesn't by default make the redirect helpful. In the target article's current state, readers searching for some concept of "oldest" that the current target just does not have at the present time. Steel1943 (talk) 00:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
- :Well, now it does. I significantly trimmed the article so that it only has breweries older than 1950 and/or any brewery that has its own article. The entries are currently in two separate tables, but can easily be combined once additional dates and references are added. - PaulT[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 17:18, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.