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:The result of the discussion was delete
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- {{no redirect|1 = Champagne paragraphs }} → :Treaty of Versailles#Economic clauses (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Champagne_paragraphs&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-10-05&end=2019-11-03&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Champagne_paragraphs stats]) [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Champagne paragraphs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Champagne paragraphs closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Champagne paragraphs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Champagne paragraphs closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Champagne paragraphs|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Champagne paragraphs closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
This is a bit of a confusing case. The creator of this redirect added the subsection that this redirect points to, but then self-reverted its addition. Thus, it's not clear whether they intend for this redirect to continue to serve some sort of purpose (the article as written makes no mention of Champagne in any context). German Wikipedia has an article about [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagnerparagraph Champagne paragraphs], but that article's lone source is a primary source document (the treaty itself) that makes no mention of Champagne either. I wasn't able to find any mentions online or on Google Scholar. Thus, it's plausible that such a subject exists, and that it's related to the target, but we lack conclusive evidence, and meanwhile the article has nothing useful to provide a reader. I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:47, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- I hope the creator can shed some light here. Outside of Wikipedia, I just found [https://books.google.com/books?id=NcuFCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=versailles+%22champagne+paragraphs%22+-wikipedia&source=bl&ots=GB4volf1_0&sig=ACfU3U26L0kZpGwNr3zOEZbhEAEvEOI5Dw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiHpeDNuNHlAhWttVkKHWWTA4EQ6AEwAXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=versailles%20%22champagne%20paragraphs%22%20-wikipedia&f=false one Google Books usage], though it strikes me as a pretty reasonable moniker for these paragraphs, Champagne being one of the best known of these sorts of products. The redirect is only useful with corresponding content in the article, though. --BDD (talk) 21:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete As things stand, we have a potentially novel (if logical) translation of a German term, referring to a topic not covered in the target article. Hate to say it, but unless content is added or we get more references, I don't see what else we can do. --BDD (talk) 15:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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