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=[[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 October 25|October 25]]=

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 25, 2019.

==Lugash==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 6%23Lugash

==Primitive Korean peninsula language==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 5%23Primitive Korean peninsula language

==List of Red Dead Redemption characters==

File:White i in purple rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was restore

article. As noted, this WP:D-R was not done without some consensus, but only a few comments on this list specifically. AfD should be the next step if editors want to remove this. --BDD (talk) 16:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Not such list on the target page. Lordtobi (✉) 08:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete both. The former has some history as a largely unsourced fan-crufty list but I don't see any value in keeping it. PC78 (talk) 14:00, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  • On second thought, I'm inclined to say restore the article and take to AfD if necessary. List of Red Dead Redemption 2 characters also exists and on the face of it appears to be reasonably well sourced, so perhaps there is merit in a separate list for the first game. PC78 (talk) 10:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 19:37, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Weakly in favor of restoring the article given PC78's most recent comment. Other than that not really sure what's best as "List of..." type titles are helpful search terms and should take the reader somewhere useful. Wug·a·po·des​ 21:10, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Restore per PC78. -- Tavix (talk) 00:51, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  • For more context, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 121#Series character lists (and courtesy pinging User:Soetermans, who is on wikibreak). I am not fond of this manner of deletion via redirection, but at least it did not happen absent any discussion. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:04, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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==Fight (Brooke Candy song)==

File:White x in red rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was delete.

--BDD (talk) 21:27, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Fight (Brooke Candy song) }} → :Brooke Candy  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fight_(Brooke_Candy_song)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fight_%28Brooke_Candy_song%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fight (Brooke Candy song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fight (Brooke Candy song) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fight (Brooke Candy song)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fight (Brooke Candy song) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fight (Brooke Candy song)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fight (Brooke Candy song) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No mention at target, at Brooke Candy discography or any other pages related to the artist. Appears to be a track of a cancelled album, Daddy Issues, which does not have an article. Richhoncho (talk) 19:27, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Unreleased song from a cancelled album, with no suitable target. Not a useful redirect. PC78 (talk) 10:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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==Phuoc Tay==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 8%23Phuoc Tay

==Adwaita (the tortoise)==

File:White i in purple rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was keep "(tortoise)", delete "(the tortoise)"

. Deryck C. 12:27, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Adwaita (tortoise) }} → :Adwaita  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adwaita_(tortoise)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Adwaita_%28tortoise%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Adwaita (tortoise)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Adwaita (tortoise) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Adwaita (tortoise)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Adwaita (tortoise) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Adwaita (tortoise)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Adwaita (tortoise) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Adwaita (the tortoise) }} → :Adwaita  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adwaita_(the_tortoise)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Adwaita_%28the_tortoise%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Adwaita (the tortoise)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Adwaita (the tortoise) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Adwaita (the tortoise)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Adwaita (the tortoise) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Adwaita (the tortoise)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Adwaita (the tortoise) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Seems excessive Sun Creator(talk) 17:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

:In 2011 I created the redirect Adwaita (tortoise) – unaware of the existence of Adwaita (the tortoise) – in preparation of a possible dab page for Adwaita, there also being Adwaita (Vedanta), Adwaita (software) & Adwaita (theme), Adwaita Mallabarman and Advaita Acharya, aka [https://books.google.com/books?id=zQjMDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT84&dq=%22Adwaita+Acharya%22&hl=en Adwaita Acharya] (and possibly other people with a name spelled [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Advaita&namespace=0 "Advaita"] here but also in some sources "Adwaita"). I don't recall why I did not follow through then, but a dab page might still be in order.  --Lambiam 18:34, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete :Adwaita (the tortoise) and keep :Adwaita (tortoise) as a plausible disambiguator. signed, Rosguill talk 23:16, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete the one, keep the other per Rosguill. "Adwaita (the tortoise)" was only a title for a few days in 2006, whereas "Adwaita (tortoise)" is a typical {{t|R from unnecessary disambiguation}}, per other members of {{cat|Individual tortoises}}. --BDD (talk) 16:26, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

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==ホオジロクロガメ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete.

--BDD (talk) 16:15, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = ホオジロクロガメ }} → :Black marsh turtle  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E3%83%9B%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AD%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%AC%E3%83%A1&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%E3%83%9B%E3%82%AA%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AD%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%AC%E3%83%A1 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:ホオジロクロガメ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ホオジロクロガメ closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:ホオジロクロガメ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ホオジロクロガメ closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:ホオジロクロガメ|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#ホオジロクロガメ closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Черепаха черная болотная }} → :Black marsh turtle  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%85%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Черепаха черная болотная|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Черепаха черная болотная closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Черепаха черная болотная|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Черепаха черная болотная closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Черепаха черная болотная|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Черепаха черная болотная closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten }} → :Black marsh turtle  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schwarze_Dickkopfschildkr%C3%B6ten&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Schwarze_Dickkopfschildkr%C3%B6ten stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Schwarze Dickkopfschildkröten closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Dickhalsschildkröte }} → :Black marsh turtle  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dickhalsschildkr%C3%B6te&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dickhalsschildkr%C3%B6te stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Dickhalsschildkröte|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dickhalsschildkröte closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Dickhalsschildkröte|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dickhalsschildkröte closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Dickhalsschildkröte|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dickhalsschildkröte closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirect from a foreign language WP:RFOREIGN Sun Creator(talk) 17:13, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

  • I've combined these nominations for convenience. --BDD (talk) 17:35, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
  • I've combined a couple others. -- Tavix (talk) 01:10, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete both, as page creator. These were made when I was unaware of the policy.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 17:42, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Unlike most WP:RFOREIGN redirects, these are actually mentioned at the target article. I'm not sure that's appropriate because Wikipedia is not a translation dictionary. -- Tavix (talk) 01:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

:*Comment In this case no. But plenty of topics on Wikipedia do not come from English-speaking countries and are more familiar in their native names which might be less ambiguous. In other words, the English name is the translation. Just because names not in English are mentioned, does not make it a violation of WP:NOTDIC. Both WP:UEIA and WP:RFOREIGN discuss when non-English names can be mentioned in the article, and indeed encouraged. I've went ahead and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_marsh_turtle&type=revision&diff=923832918&oldid=923538766 removed the Japanese, Russian, and German names from the article, but kept and sourced the native Indonesian name.]-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 02:08, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

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==Guiding hand==

File:White x in red rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was delete

. Deryck C. 12:28, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Guiding hand }} → :Morality  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Guiding_hand&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-09-25&end=2019-10-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Guiding_hand stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Guiding hand|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Guiding hand closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Guiding hand|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Guiding hand closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Guiding hand|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Guiding hand closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Unclear meaning, not mentioned at the target article. I found two topics that would at least merit MOS:DABMENTION: an anti-Bill Clinton film, at Arkansas Governor's School#The Guiding Hand, and a Boy Scout painting at Norman Rockwell. Not sure if disambiguation or search results are the way to go. --BDD (talk) 14:33, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete search results, I think, are the way to go. There's so many things this could mean that it would be hard to curate a list of things readers might be looking for. Better to give them search results and let them find what it is they want. Wug·a·po·des​ 16:46, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

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==Applied Cryptography==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 5%23Applied Cryptography

==Practical Cryptography==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 November 5%23Practical Cryptography