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==Nu-goth==
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Delete. Article it links to has no reference to this term, does not seem to be interchangeable so it should not be interpreted this way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- It is used by mainstream sources like Fuse [https://www.fuse.tv/2010/10/five-nu-goth-artists-to-watch-zola-jesus] and Billboard [https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/festivals/8509960/convergence-festival-goth-america]. These redirects were created because we had sources using the terms on highly visible articles and we were linking to these articles. I was going to add to the articles have been working on other things. Dartslilly (talk) 20:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
:Billboard seems to label as not even being a music genre, and Fuse does not go into description of the term or what it means. And so far you have not connected them to the genre you are linking to as there is no information about the genre there. If it is even a music genre, as the sources seem to conflict here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete not clear whether it's a fashion / subculture, like pastel goth [https://www.loudersound.com/features/20-reasons-why-goth-will-never-die], or a music genre as it is not explained in either of those articles. Can be revisited if such a list is made in those articles. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- I am neutral to deletion. AngusWOOF is correct in his summary. There was edit warring over the inclusion of obscure genres on a highly visible article. The redirects were created to avoid that, because it was expected at the time that more sources would become available to create the separate article. That hasn't happened and my last read of consensus at the article is against inclusion of unestablished genres. Dartslilly (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
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