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• {{no redirect|1 = PSinux }} → :Satiric misspelling  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PSinux&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=PSinux stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:PSinux|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#PSinux closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:PSinux|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#PSinux closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:PSinux|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#PSinux closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in target article, and a Google search brings up very little about this that could conceivably be related to satiric misspellings. Not used as an example, and no evidence of common use. Hog Farm (talk) 22:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete found no "satiric" usage. It was nominated in 2010 for deletion in a group of 36 other terms which were all redirected to satiric spelling. The result was no consensus, but in reading the discussion, there did seem to be some consensus for deleting those that are not mentioned at the target page. There also seemed to be agreement, among those who discussed it, that the mass nomination is a bad idea. Time to weed this one out. --Bejnar (talk) 18:57, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

::Comment "PSinux" could, in theory, be a misspelling of "PsiLinux" a open-sourced project for delivering Linux on Psion netBooks. Not a likely search term. --Bejnar (talk) 19:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Fransergio }} → :Fransérgio Bastos  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fransergio&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fransergio stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fransergio|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fransergio closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fransergio|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fransergio closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fransergio|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fransergio closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Create a new disambiguation article named Fransérgio (disambiguation) as this man is not the primary topic. There is another player whose article is titled Fransérgio (which may also have to be moved for the same reason). It is confusing that whether you type the name with the accent or not, you get a different person. Francisco Sérgio García is also nicknamed Fransérgio, according to his article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c5:e187:5f00:4d58:3971:670b:59c3 (talk) 20:36, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget to Fransérgio as {{tlx|R to diacritic}}. A new disambiguation page Fransérgio (disambiguation) has been created as requested. Any change of primary topic should be the subject of an WP:RM. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 13:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget to Fransérgio (disambiguation). GiantSnowman 13:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget to Fransérgio (disambiguation). All three claim to have the same mononym. There does not appear to be a primary. --Bejnar (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget to Fransérgio, as {{tl|R to diacritic}};

:But. {{-r|Fransérgio}} currently redirects to Fransérgio (disambiguation), and that is a WP:MALPLACED error; a bot will log it sometime soon.

:Furthermore that target should not be classified as a {{tl|dab}} page: it is a pure {{tl|given name}} page (think chalk and cheese). Narky Blert (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

::* Comment actually it is a {{tl|dab}} page for the mononym and not a given name page. A "given name" page might include "Fransergio García y Welington Nascimento de Souza", a vicar at St. Anthony Cathedral, Juiz de Fora. --Bejnar (talk) 19:39, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Elephant ear (doughnut) }} → :Fried dough  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elephant_ear_(doughnut)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Elephant_ear_%28doughnut%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Elephant ear (doughnut)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Elephant ear (doughnut) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Elephant ear (doughnut)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Elephant ear (doughnut) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Elephant ear (doughnut)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Elephant ear (doughnut) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

"Elephant ear" can refer to at least two dough-based dishes, a palmier and fried dough, but neither of them are called "doughnuts" AFAIK. Even if they are, this should redirect to the Elephant ear disambiguation page as an incomplete disambiguation. Smartyllama (talk) 18:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Redirect to Elephant ear and add these two as entries there. Vaselineeeeeeee^★★★ 20:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget to Elephant ear#Other uses, where both conceivable donut-related uses are listed. Hog Farm (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete as unnecessary differentiation OR Retarget to Elephant ear#Other uses per Hog Farm. Although these are supposed to be closed based upon the cogency of the arguments, things often stay open or get relisted, presumably on the basis that there hasn't been enough discussion. In this case, I do not think that any additional discussion will change the outcome, based on cogent arguments. --Bejnar (talk) 19:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget To Elephant ear#Other uses - my nomination was originally neutral as to whether to delete the redirect or retarget. At this point, given the arguments expressed above, I think retargeting would be the best option. Smartyllama (talk) 22:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Murazor }} → :Nazgûl#Names not created by Tolkien  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murazor&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Murazor stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Murazor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murazor closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Murazor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murazor closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Murazor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Murazor closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Uvatha }} → :Nazgûl#Names not created by Tolkien  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uvatha&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Uvatha stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Uvatha|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uvatha closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Uvatha|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uvatha closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Uvatha|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uvatha closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
• {{no redirect|1 = Uvatha the Horseman }} → :Nazgûl#Names not created by Tolkien  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uvatha_the_Horseman&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Uvatha_the_Horseman stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Uvatha the Horseman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uvatha the Horseman closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Uvatha the Horseman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uvatha the Horseman closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Uvatha the Horseman|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uvatha the Horseman closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
• {{no redirect|1 = Ûvatha }} → :Nazgûl#Names not created by Tolkien  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%9Bvatha&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%C3%9Bvatha stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ûvatha|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ûvatha closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ûvatha|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ûvatha closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ûvatha|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ûvatha closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
• {{no redirect|1 = Ûvatha the Horseman }} → :Nazgûl#Names not created by Tolkien  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%9Bvatha_the_Horseman&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=%C3%9Bvatha_the_Horseman stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Ûvatha the Horseman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ûvatha the Horseman closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ûvatha the Horseman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ûvatha the Horseman closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ûvatha the Horseman|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Ûvatha the Horseman closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Apparently I missed some of these in the earlier discussions. Names of Nazgul in derivative works, so not really relevant to the main article. Per WP:VGSCOPE, too minor for the game articles. See #Dwar of Waw and #Hoarmurath. The number of these is ridiculous. Hog Farm (talk) 21:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Sankoh }} → :Foday Sankoh  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sankoh&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sankoh stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sankoh|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sankoh closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sankoh|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sankoh closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sankoh|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sankoh closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The target has the rather clunky hatnote: "Sankoh" redirects here. For other people named Sankoh, see these search results. In the absence of a surname page, this redirect should be deleted to encourage article creation and allow uninterrupted Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. Googling the term "Sankoh" indicates that Foday Sankoh is by far WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Sankoh", so redirect should still point to that article. I just now created a surname page Sankoh (surname), and changed the hatlink at Foday Sankoh to suggest the new surname page (instead of search results) for other uses. So this issue is solved, I think. —Lowellian (reply) 08:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• It's worse than that. Foday Sankoh is - for no good reason that I can see - being treated as WP:PTOPIC and Sankoh as WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Sankoh (disambiguation) exists, and despite its title is a pure {{tl|surname}} page.

:Retarget Sankoh to Sankoh (disambiguation), then WP:ROBIN swap those two pages (per both WP:INTDAB and WP:PRECISE) and categorise the surname page correctly. Narky Blert (talk) 08:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

::Hi, your comment was posted at nearly the same time I posted my comment above, so I think you missed my comment, so I'll recap it: Googling the term "Sankoh" indicates that Foday Sankoh is by far WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Sankoh", so redirect should still point to that article. Just minutes before you posted, I newly created "Sankoh (disambiguation)" in response to this RFD to solve the request for a surname page to fix a poor hatlink. But yes, as it turns out, all the entries on the list are currently surnames, so I've moved "Sankoh (disambiguation)" to "Sankoh (surname)". —Lowellian (reply) 09:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

::: {{u|Lowellian}}, are you saying that Sankoh is the common name mononym for Foday Sankoh, or is it more like Trump where Foday Sankoh is for now the most well known of the bunch? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

::::The latter. "Sankoh" is not a mononym, but it usually refers to "Foday Sankoh", like "Merkel" usually refers to (and redirects to) Angela Merkel, "Bolsonaro" usually refers to (and redirects to) Jair Bolsonaro, "Sarkozy" usually refers to (and redirects to) Nicolas Sarkozy, etc. "Trump" doesn't redirect to Donald Trump because the word has the common other meaning of Trump (card games), but there is no other such common meaning for "Sankoh". —Lowellian (reply) 20:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

:::::Things like Google hits and pageviews give extremely unreliable measures of relative notability; see WP:DETERMINEPRIMARY. I've just put an article up for WP:AFD which had (count 'em!) 3,622 views in the last 30 days: an unreferenced article from 2016 about an utterly non-notable 1964 film. It is very rare that a surname has a WP:PTOPIC. Famous names like Milton, Shelley, Dvorak and Nimitz are DAB or name pages. Narky Blert (talk) 17:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

::::::Milton, Shelley, Dvorak, and Nimitz are DAB pages because there are multiple meanings of similar notability for each of those names. That is not the case with "Sankoh": Foday Sankoh is much more notable than all other individuals named Sankoh. Google "Sankoh", and you get page after page of results for Foday Sankoh rather than any other Sankoh. —Lowellian (reply) 03:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment from nom: we now have a good solution with a surname page which is fine by me. We don't need a Sankoh (disambiguation) redirect though so if {{re|Lowellian}} could WP:G7 it then that would be tidy. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep I agree that Foday Sankoh is primary, and with the cleanup mentioned by Shhhnotsoloud (above), we should be good to go. --Bejnar (talk) 16:39, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep per Lowellian. --im temtem • hOI!! • fsfdfg • alt account of pandakekok9 06:44, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Feminist nationalism }} → :Feminist separatism  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Feminist_nationalism&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Feminist_nationalism stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Feminist nationalism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Feminist nationalism closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Feminist nationalism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Feminist nationalism closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Feminist nationalism|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Feminist nationalism closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Searching through Google Scholar results, "feminist nationalism" seems to generally refer to the intersection of feminist and nationalist movements (i.e. the mobilization of feminist sentiment for nationalist causes), rather than feminist separatism. I would suggest deletion, as we do not currently have an appropriate target for this term (and it is likely notable in its own right) _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:57, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete – Let the editors create an article about the subject. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 18:00, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• I had thought about retargeting it to femonationalism, but it seems, according to the search results, that these two are different to each other. Feminist nationalism is more like left-wing (linking feminism with national sovereignty and self-determination), while femonationalism is more like right-wing (using feminism to justify racism and xenophobia). I'm tending to delete here. --im temtem • hOI!! • fsfdfg • alt account of pandakekok9 06:54, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = George Floyd (killed African-American) }} → :George Floyd  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=George_Floyd_(killed_African-American)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=George_Floyd_%28killed_African-American%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:George Floyd (killed African-American)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#George Floyd (killed African-American) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:George Floyd (killed African-American)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#George Floyd (killed African-American) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:George Floyd (killed African-American)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#George Floyd (killed African-American) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Implausible search term, useless, malformed and confusing. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 15:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nominator. —Locke Cole • t • c 16:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete. Ambiguous and unnecessary. Narky Blert (talk) 16:20, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep – Plausible redirect. I predict that J947 will !vote to keep the redirect. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 18:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

::Comment. It's ambiguous. Compare Derek Chauvin (killed African-American). Narky Blert (talk) 08:42, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete: wholly unnecessary disambiguation.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 18:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Sitcom movies }} → :List of films based on British television series  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sitcom_movies&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-13&end=2020-05-12&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sitcom_movies stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sitcom movies|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sitcom movies closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sitcom movies|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sitcom movies closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sitcom movies|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sitcom movies closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not equivalent, the target list includes films that are based on shows other than sitcoms, and doesn't include any non-British examples. I wasn't able to find a more relevant list elswhere, so I would suggest deletion. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete - per nom, &c. The two are not equivalent and one searching for one is unlikely to be looking for the other. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 19:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• I created it because searching for that term didn't turn up anything relevant. There was a particular fondness for films based on British sitcom movies in the 1970s - possibly this article isn't the right redirect target, but there may be scope for a British films based on sitcoms article? Dennis Coventry (talk) 19:36, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom; British movies aren't the only ones based on sitcoms. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 01:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep I think this is a useful redirect — there was a run of British movies in the 1970s based on sitcoms and this is what I would have typed if I’d wanted to find a list of them. It could be adjusted to point just to the Comedy section of the list. P-K3 (talk) 02:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Weak delete We really don't say anything about the idea of sitcom movies. List of films based on television programs would be a more suitable target, since the idea is not exclusive to the UK. Redirecting to a subtopic risks obscuring other possibilities. --BDD (talk) 20:06, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete a very broad term with no obvious target, certainly not the current one. --Bejnar (talk) 19:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = TOCD }} → :Primarily obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TOCD&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-23&end=2020-05-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=TOCD stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:TOCD|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#TOCD closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:TOCD|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#TOCD closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:TOCD|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#TOCD closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned at the target, internet and scholar searches turn up a variety of results that don't clearly suggest that this is an appropriate target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep one of a number of acronyms commonly used within the OCD community to refer to specific obsession themes common among people suffering from primarily obsessional OCD. TOCD refers to "transgender OCD", which is shorthand for OCD-fueled obsessions about one's gender identity (distinct from actual exploration of one's gender identity). TOCD is one of the four most widely used of these acronyms. The other three (HOCD for "homosexual OCD" or OCD-fueled obsessions about one's sexual orientation; ROCD for "relationship OCD" in which the sufferer obsesses over the irrational fear that they actually hate their partner deep down; and POCD for "pedophilia OCD" where people have a baseless, irrational, obsessive fear that they might be a pedophile) already have redirects to the articles or a relevant dab page. CJK09 (talk) 20:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete What CactusJack describes sounds interesting, but doesn't really have anything to do with the redirect discussion, which is not about whether or not transgender OCD exists. The salient point is that it's not described on Wikipedia (as far as I can tell), so the redirect will only mislead and disappoint readers looking for such content. (N.b., Since CactusJack is on a wikibreak through June 6, I suggest holding off on closing this discussion as a courtesy.) --BDD (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete. Not mentioned at the current target. A search turned up unrelated mentions in Waverly, Tennessee, tank car explosion (which I do not understand), and in Kuriakose Elias Chavara and Cyril Bernard Papali (which may have something to do with the Discalced Carmelites). No conceivable alternative target. Narky Blert (talk) 16:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ }} → :Earl Sweatshirt  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HOG_SLAUGHTA_BOYZ&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-23&end=2020-05-22&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=HOG_SLAUGHTA_BOYZ stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Created by a sockmaster; also Earl Sweatshirt is not called "HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ" in any source. If it is a song Earl Sweatshirt made, then fine.  3125A ^{Talk! _Edits!} 20:04, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 22:16, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
• Send to WP:DAFT (i.e. delete) and, if it really was created by a banned user after they were banned, consider G5'ing it. --NYKevin 21:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

*Delete and WP:DAFT. The user was banned for sockpuppetry, but it was the original account which was not blocked at the time so I don't think G5 applies. OcelotCreeper (talk) 16:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep, it's currently mentioned in the article and is sourced to pitchfork, which is reasonably reliable. Apparently a muscial duo, almost certainly NN, but worth mentioning here. Hog Farm (talk) 16:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep per Hog Farm (ha!). I don't see the problem. --BDD (talk) 21:22, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep, but change the section to Earl Sweatshirt#2014–15: I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside and Solace. OcelotCreeper (talk) 22:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Keep and refine to Earl Sweatshirt#2014–15: I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside and Solace per Hog Farm. Searching for the title of this redirect (in all caps) also shows that Earl Sweatshirt formed HOG SLAUGHTA BOYZ together with Nakel Smith. --im temtem • hOI!! • fsfdfg • alt account of pandakekok9 07:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Hurricane Henriette (2001) }} → :2001 Pacific hurricane season#Hurricane Henriette  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hurricane_Henriette_(2001)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-25&end=2020-05-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hurricane_Henriette_%282001%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Hurricane Henriette (2001)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hurricane Henriette (2001) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hurricane Henriette (2001)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hurricane Henriette (2001) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hurricane Henriette (2001)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hurricane Henriette (2001) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Misleading redirect that was most likely created by mistake, since Henriette was only a tropical storm back in 2001 and it never attained hurricane strength. CycloneYoris ^talk! 09:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom as wrong name. Note that the target of this redirect is broken: the information is at 2001 Pacific hurricane season#Tropical Storm Henriette. Narky Blert (talk) 13:55, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep Since the difference between a hurricane and a tropical storm is one of degree, these two are likely to be mixed up by those who are not familiar with the classification system, or simply don't remember if this was a hurricane or a tropical storm. Debresser (talk) 12:57, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• And that is precisely why we should delete this, as to not confuse readers. Also this redirect was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hurricane_Henriette_(2001)&action=history created recently] in 2018, which further proves it was created in error. CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:01, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete as wrong name, For those who are confused there is a perfectly good disambiguation page at :Hurricane Henriette which lists the hurricanes and storms by date. If someone is confused that is a much better place to start. --Bejnar (talk) 03:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, Narky Blert, and Bejnar. --im temtem • hOI!! • fsfdfg • alt account of pandakekok9 06:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Keep per Debresser. Extremely plausible misnomer, and we try to accommodate those (e.g., :Prime Minister of the United States). Imagine you're fairly knowledgeable about hurricanes and tropical storms, and a friend asks you about "Hurricane Henriette, back in 2001". Which is a more appropriate response: "Oh, it was just a tropical storm. It didn't make landfall..." or "Huh?"? --BDD (talk) 17:57, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Norbourn }} → :Middle-earth#Geography  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Norbourn&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Norbourn stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Norbourn|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Norbourn closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Norbourn|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Norbourn closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Norbourn|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Norbourn closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Fictional obscurity. Only mention on the English Wikipedia is as somebody's middle name. Nowhere really for this point that's within the scope of this triviality. Wikia-level. Hog Farm (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete, minor geog. detail not needed in The Shire or anyplace else. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and {{u|Chiswick Chap}} as it's unneeded. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 16:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget to Norbourne Estates, Kentucky as primary topic. The existing redirect does not serve a navigational function. The "name" is found in neither the target nor at Geography of Middle-earth. --Bejnar (talk) 16:54, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget to Norbourne Estates, Kentucky (1^st) choice or Norborne (2^nd choice). I can see this word as a plausible misspelling for either of those terms, and honestly when I first saw it it didn't make me think of Middle-earth that much. Apparently, in that context, it's a river located in the Shire, but it doesn't seem crucial to the legendarium's main stories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonic678 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:XY given that it's a plausible misspelling of multiple things, but not the correct spelling of anything about which Wikipedia has any information to offer our readers. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 21:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

::*Redirects that are oommon misspellings, such as this one, are not usually deleted. Norbourne is often spelled without the "e". --Bejnar (talk) 15:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

:::*Redirects that are common misspellings of multiple targets, such as this one (Norbourne or Norborne), are generally deleted by consensus when they come up, with participants citing WP:XY as the reason. For two recent ones I remember off the top of my head, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 9#Fooball and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 February 27#Hindh. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 23:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Clearances }} → :Highland Clearances  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clearances&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-04-27&end=2020-05-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Clearances stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Clearances|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Clearances closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Clearances|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Clearances closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Clearances|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Clearances closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Shouldn't this redirect to Clearance instead per WP:PLURALPT and WP:DABCOMBINE? Highland Clearances seems like a PTM even though the Highland Clearances is an important event in Scottish history. The DAB page does list numerous other uses though only Clearance (pharmacology) is titled "Clearance(s)" it seems likely some of the others are common/important enough for there to be no primary topic and usually singular and plural point to the same place. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

:No, people commonly refer to "the clearances", although the term "Highland clearances" is also in use. Both terms should lead to the same article to avoid confusing readers. This redirect has been in place since 2007 and to change it now would be needlessly disruptive. --94.197.89.137 (talk) 16:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

::Maybe in the UK (and in particular Scotland) but probably not in other parts of the world. Similar to the fact that people outside Louisville would not readily identify Louisville Zoo as the "Zoo". Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget per nom. "The Clearances" refers to the Highland Clearances; "Clearances" without the definite article could refer to any number of things on the DAB page and is ambiguous. WP article titles are chosen to be precise; when the context is clear, e.g. copyright or engineering, people refer to the topic by the single word. (Full disclosure: I'm half-Scottish.) Narky Blert (talk) 17:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• :Yes I'm partly Scottish to and while I would think of the Highland Clearances first, I don't think everyone who either isn't interested in geography or in the UK. I make a lot of contributions to Scottish islands. Note that The Clearances redirects to the Highland Clearances which I think is sufficient since per WP:THE "Clearances" has a different (general) meaning. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget per nom. The DAB page is perfectly sufficient for someone who searched for "Clearances" and wanted "Highland Clearances". Having written a good chunk of Highland Clearances, I would be all for promoting the article, but not at the cost of the encyclopedia user's view of Wikipedia.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget per nom. Thanks for the nice (old meaning) discussion. Prior to seeing this I had not heard of The Highland Clearances. I generally thought of clearances as what happened on an old-time bank holiday, when all financial instruments were cleared through the issuing banks (i.e. banks cleared all inter-bank transactions) and all accounts were brought up-to-date. Hence clearing house. I agree that a broader view is appropriate. --Bejnar (talk) 21:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget per nom, since there's no dominant meaning for the singular sense. —Lowellian (reply) 03:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. The above arguments support redirecting the singular "clearance" to a disambiguation page, but this proposal is about the plural "clearances", for which the eviction from the rural parts of Scotland is the primary meaning, and surely the only meaning for which anyone would type the plural in the search box. Someone points out above that we have a redirect from "The Clearances", but that's not going to help anyone because no-one will type that to search. If this redirect has been in place since 2007, people will have got used to using it and there will be many links using it. Changing it now as proposed will be a hindrance to readers searching for information about the clearances, and would help nobody. (Note: the current Wikipedia page is called "Highland Clearances" with a capital "C", but the term is so established that a lower case "c" is often used. The text of the page varies inconsistently on this. And whilst the term "Highland clearances" is commonly used, sometimes just "clearances" is preferred because areas other than the Highlands were affected.) --188.30.171.198 (talk) 14:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• :The singular and plural are used interchangeably that's why. WP:THE specifies one of the reasons for including it is that a term has a different meaning without it which in this case would be clearances in general, those found on the DAB. Changing it would likely not be a hindrance since people are could easily be looking for something else and they won't have to go Highland Clearances>DAB>Intended article and those wanting Highland Clearances will still fund it on the DAB. Although areas outside the Highlands were affected "Highland Clearances" is still the common name in a general context. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget to Clearance per WP:PLURALPT. --im temtem • hOI!! • fsfdfg • alt account of pandakekok9 06:59, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Exception(computing) }} → :Exception handling  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Exception(computing)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Exception%28computing%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Exception(computing)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exception(computing) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Exception(computing)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exception(computing) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Exception(computing)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Exception(computing) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Typo (missing blank). There is a parallel redirect Exception (computing). Tea2min (talk) 09:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Delete. Unnecessary clutter. Narky Blert (talk) 12:10, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete – Users who search with the malformed disambiguator would probably notice this, like I do. I predict that J947 will !vote to keep the redirect. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 18:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete this typo is not needed. Autofill does its job, and the correct redirect pops out. --Bejnar (talk) 03:52, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete I created this redirect 14 years ago. It was a different time.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = May 2020 Central Park confrontation }} → :Christian_Cooper#May_2020_encounter  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=May_2020_Central_Park_confrontation&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-05-06&end=2020-06-04&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=May_2020_Central_Park_confrontation stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:May 2020 Central Park confrontation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#May 2020 Central Park confrontation closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:May 2020 Central Park confrontation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#May 2020 Central Park confrontation closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:May 2020 Central Park confrontation|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#May 2020 Central Park confrontation closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Implausible redirect. Target article does not have a #May_2020_encounter section heading, and did not have one when the redirect was created. Google [https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&safe=off&rlz=1CAEAQE_enCA863&sxsrf=ALeKk02AmQnXCUxtGBbrTDV1FFYgqUp1tQ%3A1591324819983&ei=k7DZXvfRO9qC9PwP4vegsAw&q=%22May+2020+Central+Park+confrontation%22+-site%3Awikipedia.org&oq=%22May+2020+Central+Park+confrontation%22+-site%3Awikipedia.org&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoECAAQRzoFCCEQoAFQ8YsBWJbYAWCN4QFoAHABeACAAZsFiAHJKJIBDDAuMTIuMi4zLjIuMZgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwi35_f00unpAhVaAZ0JHeI7CMYQ4dUDCAw&uact=5 shows] no external websites using this phrase. Geo Swan (talk) 02:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

• Keep - The section heading is no longer there because the content was merged into another section. I'll be fixing that. As for the category name, it can be renamed to fit Google Search findings, but I think this was a notable incident in the context of racism and discrimination that has popped up again in U.S. society. While it's not notable enough to have its own article, I think a redirect is perfectly appropriate to indicate an acknowledgment of this incident. Love of Corey (talk) 02:55, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
• Delete no redirect history worth saving. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=May_2020_Central_Park_confrontation&action=history q.v.] This is what happens when editors ignore WP:NOTNEWS. --Bejnar (talk) 03:59, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

:How? The incident has been covered by multiple WP:RS. Love of Corey (talk) 01:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget to Central Park birdwatching incident. --im temtem • hOI!! • fsfdfg • alt account of pandakekok9 07:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget to Central Park birdwatching incident. Why should it be deleted or redirected to the article of one of the participants? Jim Michael (talk) 18:06, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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