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=[[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 16|September 16]]=

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 16, 2020.

==Template:Title==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 25%23Template:Title

==Incorrect (disambiguation)==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 24%23Incorrect (disambiguation)

==Joe Biden (Amtrak station)==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. This redirect is mentioned in the article, as "Joe" is a shorter form of "Joseph". (non-admin closure) Seventyfiveyears (talk) 12:54, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Joe Biden (Amtrak station) }} → :Wilmington station (Delaware)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Biden_(Amtrak_station)&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Joe_Biden_%28Amtrak_station%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Joe Biden (Amtrak station)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Joe Biden (Amtrak station) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Joe Biden (Amtrak station)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Joe Biden (Amtrak station) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Joe Biden (Amtrak station)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Joe Biden (Amtrak station) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Implausible redirect. Nobody is going to simply search for "Joe Biden" and expect to arrive at the train station. The station is called the Joe Biden Railroad Station, not simply "Joe Biden".  — Tartan357  (Talk) 20:55, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep: I don't see why there's anything wrong here. The claim of implausiblity seems specious. One would expect this railroad station to show up at, for example, Joe Biden (disambiguation). pbp 21:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
  • :Again, the redirect you created is implausible because "Joe Biden" alone cannot refer to a train station. That makes no sense. Having "Joe Biden (Amtrak station)" as a title suggests that "Joe Biden" is an Amtrak station, which is ridiculous. Also, it's not specious. Please refrain from casting WP:ASPERSIONS. — Tartan357  (Talk) 23:26, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
  • :I would be fine with moving the redirect to a more appropriate name, such as "Joe Biden Railroad Station". — Tartan357  (Talk) 23:36, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
  • ::Per WP:MOVEREDIRECT, redirects should not be moved unless the edit history requires it. If you think Joe Biden Railroad Station would be a cromulent redirect, then feel free to create it. -- Tavix (talk) 01:13, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
  • ::Tartan, you're approaching redirects as you would article titles. A redirect with parenthesis is as valid as a redirect without one. pbp 23:09, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep as unambiguous, harmless and plausible. Thryduulf (talk) 00:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep: Plausible shortening. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:39, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep per above; imperfect yet completely plausible. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Template:Portal templates==

File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Template:Portal template list. signed, Rosguill talk 17:26, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Template:Portal templates }} → :Template:Project template list  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Portal_templates&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template%3APortal_templates stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Template:Portal templates|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Portal templates closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Template:Portal templates|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Portal templates closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Template:Portal templates|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Portal templates closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Should be retargeted to Template:Portal template list instead. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget per nom. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 12:57, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Mohawk Civil War==

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==Owww!==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 27%23Owww!

==Unanimity criterion==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 25%23Unanimity criterion

==List of diver training organizations==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:24, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Delete. The target article does not contain a list, and List of diver certification organizations is not an appropriate target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:52, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

  • As long as it breaks no links, go ahead and delete. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:01, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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==List of NFL champions==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to History of the National Football League championship#Championship games per season. signed, Rosguill talk 17:24, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = List of NFL champions }} → :List of NFL champions (1920–1969)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_NFL_champions&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=List_of_NFL_champions stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:List of NFL champions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of NFL champions closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:List of NFL champions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of NFL champions closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:List of NFL champions|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#List of NFL champions closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

If List of NFL champions (1920–1969) is the primary topic, why does it need a disambiguation in brackets? Either the article should be moved to this name or the redirect is better replaced by a disambiguation page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Etymology of Georgia==

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==Piano house==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Piano house }} → :Deep house  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piano_house&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Piano_house stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Piano house|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Piano house closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Piano house|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Piano house closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Piano house|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Piano house closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete. There is no mention of the genre "piano house" at all on the Deep house article, so it should not be re-directed here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 10:37, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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==David Letterman Bypass (done)==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = David Letterman Bypass }} → :Interstate 465  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Letterman_Bypass&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=David_Letterman_Bypass stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:David Letterman Bypass|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#David Letterman Bypass closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:David Letterman Bypass|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#David Letterman Bypass closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:David Letterman Bypass|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#David Letterman Bypass closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Lemma (or similar terms) not mentioned in target. Hildeoc (talk) 10:18, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

:Keep - Letterman once carried out a campaign to have the Interstate 465 beltway around Indianapolis to be renamed the David Letterman Bypass, which also referenced his heart condition, in the exact same fashion as Stephen Colbert did for the Stephen Colbert Bridge in Budapest Hungry.Sturmovik (talk) 11:21, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep—just added to the article. Imzadi 1979 → 17:33, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Imzadi1979}} Thank you very much indeed for fixing that! Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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==That Man in the White House==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#Franklin D. Roosevelt. signed, Rosguill talk 17:21, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = That Man in the White House }} → :Franklin D. Roosevelt  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=That_Man_in_the_White_House&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=That_Man_in_the_White_House stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:That Man in the White House|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#That Man in the White House closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:That Man in the White House|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#That Man in the White House closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:That Man in the White House|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#That Man in the White House closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = That man in the White House }} → :Franklin D. Roosevelt  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=That_man_in_the_White_House&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-17&end=2020-09-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=That_man_in_the_White_House stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:That man in the White House|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#That man in the White House closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:That man in the White House|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#That man in the White House closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:That man in the White House|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#That man in the White House closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

{{Oldrfdlist|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 1#That man in the White House|withdrawn}}

There is a reliable source that assigns this expression to FDR, but it is cited at List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#Franklin D. Roosevelt and not at Franklin D. Roosevelt. It is confusing to redirect to an article without a mention of the expression (and such confusion led to the previous RfD). Should this redirect target the list, or the FDR article? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:25, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to List of nicknames of presidents of the United States#Franklin D. Roosevelt per nom. Keeping is not an option given there is no mention of this nickname at the current target, leaving readers without any idea of what this actually refers to. CycloneYoris talk! 07:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget/Delete. The first one, in title case, should be retargeted as above, because it is the title of [https://smile.amazon.com/That-man-White-House-President/dp/B0006AQ93Q/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=%22That+Man%22+in+the+White+House&qid=1600488606&sr=8-1 a 1944 book] about Roosevelt. The second one, in sentence case, should be deleted, since the sentence case phrase is generic and could refer to any of the 43 men who were President after the White House was constructed. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:08, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, as nom I agree with that. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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