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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 9, 2021.

==The Grandmother (movie)==

File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to The Grandmother (film). (non-admin closure) Adumbrativus (talk) 03:50, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Better retarget this to The Grandmother (film), a different film. We do have the The Grandmother (1970 film) redirect already, and it looks like the primary topic is the 1981 film? ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:13, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambiguate. The Grandmother has a hatnote which mentions two different films, and (movie) is a terrible qualifier (much like (footballer) and (soccer) as a way of distinguishing between people, or the presence or absence of a stop after a personal initial). Retarget this to the proposed DAB page as {{tl|R from incomplete disambiguation}}. Narky Blert (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
  • {{re|Narky Blert}} the 1970 film is the David Lynch film: there are only two films and a hatnote will do. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to The Grandmother (film) which has a hatnote to the current target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to The Grandmother (film). I can ''can't think of any situations where it is desirable for (film) and (movie) to lead to different places. Thryduulf (talk) 12:06, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
  • :@Thryduulf You can? ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)     18:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
  • ::I suppose if someone makes a movie called Saran... Certes (talk) 18:29, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
  • :::{{smalldiv|1=Sarah (film){{!}}Close enough. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)     20:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)}}
  • ::{{replyto|1234qwer1234qwer4}} doh! Typo fixed. Thryduulf (talk) 01:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

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==Secular politics==

File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Secularity. signed, Rosguill talk 20:06, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Secular politics }} → :Secularism  (talk · links · history · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2021-06-09&end=2021-07-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Secular_politics stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Secular politics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Secular politics closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Secular politics|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Secular politics closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Secular politics|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Secular politics closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

After a poorly-attended discussion in 2015 at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 February 11#Secular politics, secular politics was retargetted from politics to secularism.

I am bringing this redirect up again for discussion, because in the open discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:E-960 topic ban violations (started 7 July 2021) at least two editors have queried the appropriateness of the current target - which affects the scope of a WP:TBAN. I am not involved in that ANI discussion, and have nothing to say there or here about it.

Secular politics is tagged as {{tl|R with possibilities}}. One answer would be to write the article, which I do not feel competent to do.

{{-r|Secular}} is a redirect to secularity. From the DAB page secular (disambiguation), I can see no other current possibilities for the target of secular politics than secularism or secularity. The ledes of those two articles make it clear that they are related but distinct concepts. I therefore open this discussion (with a weak preference for retargetting to secularity). Narky Blert (talk) 16:58, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

:(I'm one of the editors who questioned the target at ANI) What about redirecting it to the DAB page? I think that would be my first choice preference, second choice being to retarget to secularity (so support). The DAB page could be improved by listing both secularity and secularism and writing a brief description of each that would tell the reader the difference. Levivich 17:54, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

::Retargetting to the DAB page secular (disambiguation) as {{tl|R from incomplete disambiguation}} would be fine by me. I don't think either of the targets I named would be ideal. Narky Blert (talk) 19:17, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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==List of games featuring the Galaxian flagship==

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==Disco-pop==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 23:52, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Disco-pop }} → :Eurodisco  (talk · links · history · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2021-06-09&end=2021-07-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Disco-pop stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Disco-pop|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Disco-pop closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Disco-pop|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Disco-pop closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Disco-pop|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Disco-pop closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

It's not clear that the moniker "disco-pop" exclusively refers to this subgenre, and is not mentioned at the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. Note that redirects at this title have been twice deleted at RfD, although those were pointing to a section of Disco. signed, Rosguill talk 15:52, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Ambiguous and likely to cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

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==Turkey and cheese==

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:The result of the discussion was delete.

--BDD (talk) 20:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Turkey and cheese }} → :Sandwich  (talk · links · history · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2021-06-09&end=2021-07-08&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Turkey_and_cheese stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Turkey and cheese|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Turkey and cheese closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Turkey and cheese|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Turkey and cheese]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Turkey and cheese|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Turkey and cheese closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned at the target, unlikely search term of minimal utility, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 15:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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==Bale Breaker Brewing Company==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to List of breweries in Washington. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 21:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Only mentioned in the references section, I would lean towards deletion unless more duly sourced content can be added. signed, Rosguill talk 15:23, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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==Nawasib==

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==Notepad (software)==

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