Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 19#Battery watch
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==Panji==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was move
- {{no redirect|1 = Panji }} → :Panjika (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Panji&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2021-02-17&end=2021-03-18&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Panji stats])
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Had redirected to Panji tales, which has a hatnote to Panji (disambiguation), which lists the "Panji tales" as primary topic and doesn't even mention the new target. However, Panjika says right in its lead "colloquially known as Panji" - so I think this needs some discussion. MB 22:42, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- The obvious solution is of course to add Panjika to the disambiguation page, and revert the change. I see no indication that the primary topic is otherwise than Panji tales. --Paul_012 (talk) 00:43, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it is obvious that Panjika should be added to the dab. But why is Panji tales the PT? It doesn't get substantially more [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=Panjika|Panji_tales page views]. Perhaps the dab should be at the basename. Searching doesn't give me a clear indication that there is a PT. MB 21:51, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- MB (and Certes), doing a Google search for "Panji", I see first page results that are almost exclusively about the Panji tales. Excluding Wikipedia and mirrors, these include UNESCO[http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/memory-of-the-world/register/full-list-of-registered-heritage/registered-heritage-page-7/panji-tales-manuscripts/], The Jakarta Post[https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2017/07/18/great-indonesian-literature-tales-of-panji.html], the British Library[https://blogs.bl.uk/asian-and-african/2018/09/panji-in-javanese-manuscripts.html], University of the Arts Helsinki[https://disco.teak.fi/asia/the-panji-story/], and the British Museum[https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG175158]. A comparable number of page views doesn't say anything about which page is more likely expected to be referred to by the term Panji, since very few hits were coming via the redirect. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:58, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- A good point, which certainly rules out a primary redirect to Panjika or anywhere else. If there is a PT then it's the tales. However, when two different editors (who have a clue) see two different PTs, that normally indicates that the dab should occupy the base name. Certes (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Move Panji (disambiguation) → Panji, because there is no clear primary topic. I've added Panjika to the dab and diverted the incoming links. Certes (talk) 21:34, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- :To clarify: moving the dab is better than keeping Panji as a redirect retargetted to Panji (disambiguation), per WP:MALPLACED. Certes (talk) 23:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Move the dab page to Panji, reversing the bold move from November. Arguments for any particular primary topic can be hashed out in an RM. – Uanfala (talk) 15:32, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
