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== List of countries in 2006 ==

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to List of sovereign states in the 2000s. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 22:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Delete as this is both unused and inaccurate. This list includes South Sudan, for example, which {{diff2|97669046|List of sovereign states|it did not include in 2006}}. (I know that other pages like this exist, but before doing a mass nomination I first wanted to try to see what consensus would be on one.) TartarTorte 16:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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==Flags of municipalities of Estonia==

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== Mario draghi ==

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:The result of the discussion was withdrawn

. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 16:19, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Deletion: unneded redirect, capitalization is already accounted for -- BouncyCactus (talk) 14:30, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

:also {{urgent}} the page being about an internationally recognised politician and this particular redirect after the nomination creates a disruption of service, as almost all users search for names ignoring capitalization and this redirect hijacks the default page. BouncyCactus (talk) 14:37, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

:Keep, does no harm (and if it is this urgent, "speedy keep"). Fram (talk) 14:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

::{{disagree}} unnecessarily bloats the search bar, as it gives two results when searching for "mario draghi". It's not a precedent to be set. BouncyCactus (talk) 15:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

:::? When I search for "Hillary clinton", I only get Hillary Clinton in the search bar, despite the existence of Hillary clinton. Cristiano ronaldo exists, but it doesn't clutter the search box either. Johnny cash, same. Perhaps - {{R from other capitalisation}} simply needed to be added? In any case, no precedent is set by this redirect as we have countless similar ones already, without any issues. Fram (talk) 15:24, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

::::ok it worked, it was the missing template that was the culprit. thanks for your help :) BouncyCactus (talk) 15:42, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

::::however I think the template to be used is {{R from miscapitalisation}} BouncyCactus (talk) 15:45, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

::I was directed here by a user who deleted my page nomination. Maybe, in order not to give additional work here, I could simply nominate the page for speedy deletion as WP:R3 BouncyCactus (talk) 15:19, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

:::Please no. It is not an unlikely typo, and your regular deletion nom is already objected to so a speedy would be a bad idea. Fram (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

:Nomination withdrawn BouncyCactus (talk) 15:43, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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==Ukrainian Genocide==

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==County Championship Division Two Current Table==

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== Trumpanzee ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 11:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

WP:SSRT, no need to redirect this derogatory neologism. Fram (talk) 08:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

And the same goes for Trumpanzees of course. Fram (talk) 08:27, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep as a redirect. There's a valid target and there's no encyclopedic value here, so it meets WP:SOFTREDIRECT and WP:SISP. (See also wikt:WT:RFV. It passes wikt:WT:ATTEST with [https://www.google.com/search?q=trumpanzee&tbm=nws these] [https://www.google.com/search?q=trumpanzee&tbm=bks uses].) Enix150 (talk) 14:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • WP:SSRT is part of WP:SISP and makes it clear that in most cases, we don't want or need a soft redirect. The wiktionary links you provide are not relevant, I'm not asking for deletion of the page on Wiktionary, I'm asking that "Trumpanzee" and "Trumpanzees" would not be a bluelink on enwiki as there is indeed no encyclopedic value here. Fram (talk) 14:55, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete. Per WP:SSRT, {{tq|only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects}} (emphasis mine). "Trumpanzee" is not a commonly wikified word and it does not appear to have been repeatedly recreated from its [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/special:log?page=Trumpanzee page log], so the guideline suggests that the soft redirect is inappropriate in this case. I see no encyclopedic use of this term here, so there's no appropriate hard redirect either. As such, deletion is the best option. — Mhawk10 (talk) 04:17, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all per Mhawk10. Veverve (talk) 06:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all per Mhawk10 --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 10:22, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete both per strong argument by Mhawk10. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 22:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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== Project Prometheus (Smallville) ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 11:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Even though there's still information about Smallville at the target, there's absolutely no mention of any "Project Prometheus". CycloneYoris talk! 07:19, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 14:27, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Okay, in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kryptonite_Man&diff=next&oldid=285314112 this diff], I removed the information that would have justified this redirect, and put it in Kryptonite. Looking at the appropriate section of that article, what I added appears too detailed to have been kept. You can look at what I removed and why, and from there figure out if it belongs anywhere on Wikipedia.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:43, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete - Project Prometheus was Smallville's version of the Lex exosuit from the comics. This appears briefly in one season. It's a niche thing to search that is unlikely to generate traffic with such a specific title. Delete. There is no need for a redirect.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:48, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete not in the target. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 10:57, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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== Ashford to Ramsgate (via Canturbury West) line ==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. ✗plicit 11:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Unrealistic typo for "Canterbury" in this context. This can't be speeded as WP:R3 as it's been around for 15 years, so a discussion is required. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep. What makes the homophone error "unrealistic" in this context? It seems perfectly harmless to me. Thryduulf (talk) 08:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Sir Ottavio Missoni ==

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. signed, Rosguill talk 19:19, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Propose deletion. Unlikely search/redirect term, especially as Ottavio Missoni's main article has nothing about him having a title. Mabalu (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep - There are several online sources that refer to the subject of the article with a title in front of the name, and I could see someone typing Sir Ottavio Missoni. Noah 💬 17:05, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete. Unless the article can cite a reliable source that "Sir" is a given name, or he has some form of knighthood, this redirect is not appropriate. His obit in The Independent (cited in the article) doesn't mention it. :it:Ottavio Missoni says he has the :it:Ordine al merito del lavoro, but I'm not sure that amounts to being addressed as "Sir". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:09, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2020-01-01&end=2021-12-31&pages=Sir_Ottavio_Missoni the spike in visits to this page in March 2021] suggests it's worth keeping. Unless someone can show me that was prompted by an internal Wikipedia discussion? --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 08:46, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Minor characters associated with quidditch ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 11:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Following years of mergers, redirects and reorginisations this redirect has been reduced to essentially nonsense. The content it is supposed to be targeting does not seem to exist anywhere. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 19:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

  • See similar discussion. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:15, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
  • :{{replyto|J947}} Thank you, I don't know how I managed to miss that discussion. In this case the redirect doesn't have any article content in its history, so I think most of the concerns from that discussion do not apply here. 192.76.8.70 (talk) 21:40, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 10:19, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. The content this redirect is looking for is not to be found in this encyclopedia. BD2412 T 05:10, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Blue Friday ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 19:19, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Redirected page does not mention Blue Friday at all.  cjquines  (talk) 02:01, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep as a redirect. While the topic isn't notable enough for it's own article, it was a major sale day at the large national department store chain Kmart. A redirect is 100% appropriate.--23mason (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate between Quiet Kenny and Master Keaton, both of which mention a topic called Blue Friday. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:30, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete to allow uninhibited Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:15, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

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==WP:B==

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== Pink kar ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 11:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Misspelled term not mentioned at target article. CycloneYoris talk! 06:45, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Flag of Jammu and Kashmir (1952–2021) ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 11:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Flag was abolished in 2019 not 2021. Peter Ormond 💬 06:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete: misleading. Veverve (talk) 10:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete as inaccurate per nom --Lenticel (talk) 10:58, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete, as the flag was removed from its official status due to removal of Article 370. The current redirect is misleading. signed, 511KeV (talk) 16:11, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

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== Radioactive material ==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Radionuclide. ✗plicit 11:47, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

{{anchor|Radioactive materials}}

Two nearly identical redirects with different targets. Which is better? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:12, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Radionuclide is better. Radioactive decay is the process. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 08:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Radionuclide for the same reason as Headbomb. PianoDan (talk) 16:01, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • If the choice is restricted to these two, then I agree that Radionuclide (as a substance) is better than Radioactive decay (as a process). However the term radioactive material also means any material enriched in radioactive elements or isotopes, so I would suggest a third option: point the redirect to Naturally occurring radioactive material. Ideally the redirect target should include anthropogenic radioactive material also. Dirac66 (talk) 17:48, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • :This sounds to me like an argument FOR pointing it to radionuclide. Naturally occurring radioactive material doesn't include man-made isotopes, and I agree they SHOULD be included. So why not point the redirect at the more general term? PianoDan (talk) 19:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget both to Radionuclide per above --Lenticel (talk) 07:05, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Seem ==

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:The result of the discussion was move

SEEM over redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

  • {{Rfd2/-r|1=Seem}} → :SEEM  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Seem|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Seem closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Seem|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Seem closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Seem|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Seem closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This currently redirects to the disambiguation page, SEEM, which I have just PRODed because the two red links on the page are both acronyms of PROD-deleted article subjects. However, "seem" obviously has its own non-acronym meaning, so I am thinking that this could point somewhere else. I am just not sure where. BD2412 T 01:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

  • {{s|Leave/delete - I think it's too general of a word to point anywhere. Search doesn't turn up anything which looks like a suitable target to me. Better to let it die (or delete if the PROD expires before this is closed). A7V2 (talk) 03:23, 28 April 2022 (UTC)}}
  • Struck my now-irrelevant !vote due to the changes to SEEM. I'm fine with the dab proposal below. A7V2 (talk) 00:27, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Replace with disambiguation page Move SEEM over seem. I've deprodded it and fixed the lack of links issue -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Move per WP:DABNAME: after the expansion by 65.92.246.142, the dab page has enough eligible entries. – Uanfala (talk) 13:27, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
  • I am now also inclined to support moving SEEM to Seem based on the ambiguous terms added by the IP. BD2412 T 14:51, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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==Mississippi flood & Mississippi flooded==

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