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=[[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 30|August 30]]=

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 30, 2022.

==Christine (upcoming film)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Christine (1983 film)#Remake. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 15:21, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

There is no information in the target about a film, sans the film created the same year as the book in 1983. (Note: Draft:Christine (upcoming film) exists.) Steel1943 (talk) 23:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment - I'm not super invested in it, but if a mention isn't added to the target (surprised there isn't a section for the original film adaptation beyond the one line in the lead), it could be retargeted to Christine (1983 film)#Remake, where it is mentioned. -2pou (talk) 01:04, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget per 2pou. At such time as the film is no longer upcoming, this redirect should be brought back here to RfD to be deleted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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==More "upcoming" no longer "upcoming"==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 23:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 10#Target subjects no longer "upcoming". Steel1943 (talk) 23:20, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

:Comment If it's no longer "upcoming", then why can't the redirect be renamed (if possible)?

:Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 23:30, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

::{{Ping|Magnatyrannus}} Create the new redirect if you so feel inclined. In cases like these, there's no reason to move their edit histories elsewhere. Steel1943 (talk) 23:32, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete all - Skulls is the only moderately interesting one to maintain for it's secretive plans as a big marketing reveal, but "upcoming" is still misleading and Skulls (2022 film) exists, so no need. -2pou (talk) 01:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all: per Steel1943 -Gouleg🛋️ harass/hound 12:53, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all as misleading and per previous consensus. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:08, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all per Steel1943. Icabobin (talk) 15:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all, wish we could create a SPEEDY category for these types of redirects. -- Wikipedical (talk) 16:32, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • CSD suggestion Something like "Redirects whose names use the word 'upcoming' to indicate that a work was not released yet, as long as a release window is not also in the redirect name and no significant article content is contained in the redirect's history, may be speedily deleted when the release window is revealed in a reliable source."? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
  • :I would strongly oppose that, because the "upcoming" redirects continue to have value for a time after being moved to allow people to find the article at the new title from links, bookmarks, etc. How long that time is varies based on how long people continue to use the redirect, in may experience it ranges from a couple of weeks to a year or very occasionally even longer. Thryduulf (talk) 10:34, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
  • :{{Ping|Mellohi!}} For what it's worth, see Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Formerly untitled/upcoming media. Steel1943 (talk) 04:11, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

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==Anjan district==

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==Template:Apocalypse==

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==CORPSE==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

and added hatnote at the current target. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 07:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't see an indication in the target article, nor at [https://www.youtube.com/c/CorpseHusband/], that the subject's name is frequently stylized as "CORPSE". Even if it were, Corpse would be a more natural target. But since that is a common noun with no affinity to an all-caps rendering, I think better to delete. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 01:48, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

:Delete. Useless Gtag10 (talk) 01:50, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 03:54, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Corpse (disambiguation). Simple, WP:CHEAP. Ovinus (talk) 07:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. Corpse Husband does use this stylization. It's the capitalization/spelling of his [https://open.spotify.com/artist/7yntSJ6uojO3z6GFUVwhAW official Spotify account] as well as his [https://twitter.com/CORPSE alt Twitter account]. Looking at Corpse (disambiguation), I don't see any entries that would be intentionally stylized this way, so I doubt it would be a useful redirect. A hatnote at Corpse Husband would be sufficient to catch edge cases. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 12:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep and resolve ambiguity with a hatnote at Corpse Husband. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:20, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 18:55, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep and hatnote per above. This the only entry at Corpse (disambiguation) which would be correctly written in all caps. The film seems to have used standard title casing in the markets where it was known as The Corpse [https://a.ltrbxd.com/resized/film-poster/3/1/7/4/0/31740-the-corpse-0-460-0-690-crop.jpg?k=8e1c08a689]. Corpse would not be a natural target; all-caps redirects generally point to WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs which are known by their acronyms (e.g. {{-r|BLUE}}, {{-r|FROG}}), or to the dab page if it has multiple topics correctly written in all-caps ({{-r|BIRD}}, {{-r|GREEN}}, {{-r|COW}}, {{-r|WHIP}}). 61.239.39.90 (talk) 03:20, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep and catch any failures of the redirect with a hatnote. casualdejekyll 20:59, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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==Partido Nacionalista ng Pilipinas==

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==Cowboys==

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==The midterm effect==

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==Wikipedia:PETTIFOG==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 18:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Term no longer mentioned as a "related term" in target page. FMecha (to talk|to see log) 16:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

:WP:PETTIFOG is listed as a shortcut on the target page. It has many incoming links. WP:PETTIFOGGING also has several incoming links.  --Lambiam 19:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

::I was referring to the term as it's used on the page's text/body, not shortcut. FMecha (to talk|to see log) 07:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep per Lambiam. Whether the word is mentioned in the prose or not, the shortcut is still directly relevant to the content and there is absolutely no reason to break the incoming links let alone any benefit to doing so. Thryduulf (talk) 10:36, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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==Salazar Colleges of Science And Institute of technology==

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==White noise (slang)==

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==Baja, California==

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==Saudi Arabia and the apartheid analogy==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 12:08, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

This redirect targeted a contrived subsection of Human rights in Saudi Arabia that was largely based on opinion pieces. I have removed the unqualified opinion pieces and folded the remaining quote, which was specific to 'religious apartheid', back into the main introduction on religious freedom. There is no remaining obvious target with regards to Saudi Arabia, and even if people wanted to search for Saudi Arabia and the theme of 'apartheid', this page would be an unnatural and implausible title for a redirect. People would more naturally type something like 'Saudi Arabia and apartheid' or 'Saudi Arabia and apartheid allegations' not the above. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete: As there is no reasonable target, I think deletion make sense. Having said that, I do find the redirect formulation to be fine as it's using the same format as the article Israel and the apartheid analogy. TartarTorte 15:17, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

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==GWR 1501 Class==

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==Primal Instinct==

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