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== List of royal visits by Queen Elizabeth II ==
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As an American, I would have expected this to point to List of state visits made by Elizabeth II. I take it "royal visits" is understood to mean to Commonwealth realms? If this is widely understood throughout the Commonwealth, maybe this is just a case for hatnotes. But given the existing hatnote at List of state visits made by Elizabeth II, and the fact that her visits to Commonwealth realms are a logical subtopic, I recommend retargeting.
Note also that {{no redirect|Royal visit}} redirects to State visit. --BDD (talk) 14:39, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Disambugate with links to the Queen's state visits and tours of Commonwealth countries. Peter Ormond 💬 15:07, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate: There are two plausible search terms for this, and they cover subtly different sets of visits. People could be looking for either of the two. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think disambiguation is the best option. See WP:TWODABS. Commonwealth visits are a subset of state visits. --BDD (talk) 14:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 17:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 20:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep or perhaps disambiguate. She is Queen of Australia, for example, so I don't think it's appropriate to call it a "state visit", as she is not visiting representing a foreign country. Further, per State visit#United Kingdom, state visits do not occur between the United Kingdom and Commonwealth realms, technically. Searching online indicates that the existing target is the primary one for "royal visits", certainly List of state visits made by Elizabeth II is not the primary topic as far as I can tell. A7V2 (talk) 03:38, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per A7V2's research. Another ignorant American here, but it looks like this is "just a case for hatnotes" after all. -- Tavix (talk) 00:32, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: One more relist for a firmer consensus following a trend towards keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 20:52, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: As stated by A7V2, as she is often the Head of State in these countries that she is visiting, they are typically not referred to as state visits. The current target is a bit more accurate, but I am fine with hatnotes also. TartarTorte 16:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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