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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 31, 2023.

==Wikipedia:COMMONKNOWLEDGE==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Wikipedia:Common knowledge. Salvio giuliano 21:14, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Surely this should point to WP:Common knowledge? Of 5 backlinks, 2 clearly intend that, and the other 3 are ambiguous but I think more likely mean that than the current target (which does not contain the phrase "common knowledge" once). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 20:30, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

:Agreed, retarget. It's what I would expect that redirect to lead to. DFlhb (talk) 20:46, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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==Zero-G Datafiles==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Zero-G Ltd. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 20:47, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Result of a link to an ambiguous page name and subsequent double-redirect fixing. I can't find any article on the intended subject, which is a series of audio sample CDs. Omphalographer (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

:Delete. I have no memory of this, but looking at the article history, it looks like this was my own dumb fault. I redirected the article to Zero-G apparently under the impression that this was an article about the audio company Zero-G, which is obviously not the case. As we have no proper place to redirect to, let's just kill it. Popcornfud (talk) 19:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

::{{ping|Popcornfud}} We have an article about Zero-G Ltd. Is that the company you are referencing? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

:::Aha! Yes, that's right. Thank you. I've updated the redirect to point to that page. Popcornfud (talk) 21:56, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  • There is no mention of Datafiles at the audio company, but there is some explanation at Sampling (music). Maybe Retarget there and pipe the link there to Zero-G Ltd. Delete as second choice, so the search can take over. Jay 💬 08:22, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
  • :I've added information about the Datafiles, cited to a reliable secondary source, to the Zero-G article. The bigger question is whether Zero G is notable enough to deserve an article at all, but that's a separate issue. Popcornfud (talk) 15:59, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
  • ::Thank you. Retarget to Zero-G Ltd. Jay 💬 16:15, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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==Merry Little Batman==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 21:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

This animated special seems to have been among the animated projects cancelled at HBO Max in 2022. ★Trekker (talk) 18:27, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  • This has mention at 3 different list articles with differring information. Delete in preference to search results. Jay 💬 07:55, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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==Move (song)==

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:The result of the discussion was Snow Keep

. Most of {{User|ErceÇamurOfficial}} listings on RFD usually ends in a keep, and this discussion is no exception. Before nominating any more redirects, please read Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, Wikipedia:Redirect, and Wikipedia:Redirects are cheap. (non-admin closure) Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 12:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

I think Ludacris' song is the primary topic. I suggest retargeting to Move Bitch. ErceÇamurOfficial (talk) 17:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Oppose since even if it would be the primary song compared to other "Move"s (it seems like it is possible that it is), it is not primary enough given it's a partial match. For example, :Move Bitch gets 2,319 views in the last 30 days while :Move (Moby song) alone has 1,419 views (one of about ten exact title matches). Skynxnex (talk) 23:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC) Skynxnex (talk) 15:07, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep per Skynxnex's findings --Lenticel (talk) 00:05, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Station1 (talk) 05:48, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep. A primary topic would be difficult to assert given it's a partial title match, and the criterion for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by usage is "much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:16, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:PDAB; also, the Ludacris song isn't even titled "Move", so this request is a bit... ludicrous. 162 etc. (talk) 17:56, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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==When Laura smiles==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. Consensus appears to be to maintain the redirect as is with added {{tl|R from work}} and {{tl|R without mention}} tags. {{nac}} (non-admin closure) Estar8806 (talk) 18:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

{{u|Onel5969}} intended to nominate this redirect for discussion, but was blocked by a script bug. I have now fixed the issue, so they can provide their rationale here. signed, Rosguill talk 16:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

:Hi. And thanks for fixing it. My concern is that I do not know what this phrase has to do with the target, since it is not mentioned there. Onel5969 TT me 16:57, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Comment It is the title of [https://luminarium.org/renlit/whenlaura.htm a poem] by Campion. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:44, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep and tag with {{tl|R from work}} and {{tl|R without mention}} (if mention isn't added) – Plausible search term, unlikely to be notable enough for its own article. Redirecting to the author would provide the most information possible to a reader: by whom it was written. Randi Moth TalkContribs 21:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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==Zero-entry==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. signed, Rosguill talk 21:44, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Per third party search engines, the concept of "zero-entry" is not exclusive to pools. Apparently, this refers to the lack of a set of stairs leading to/from a different flat elevation, which can also apply to certain doorways or showers/bathtubs. Steel1943 (talk) 22:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Weak disambig. The most common meaning seems to be the swimming pool type (an exact synonym for "beach entry", discussed above) but not to the extent of being clear primary topic. It is also used as a synonym for generic step-free access using shallow gradients, for things that have no entry cost (including loans) and zero entry mining (mechanised to the extent that humans do not need to enter the mine). However I'm not sure to what extent the latter two are just partial title matches, and we don't seem to have any content about the mining use anyway. Thryduulf (talk) 02:21, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep, as the term overwhelmingly used on enwiki to refer to the pools, and in many instances, used simply as "Zero entry" without the "swimming pool" qualifier. May be disambiguated if there are other usages on enwiki. If there is only one other usage, hatnote to that, with pools as the primary. I see Visitability that talks about the zero-step entrances per nom. Similar to the redirect Step-free access, but that leads to Accessibility. Jay 💬 07:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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==Yungur language==

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==Tards==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to List of disability-related terms with negative connotations#T. Salvio giuliano 07:39, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

WP:SSRT: "Please keep in mind that only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects. We don't need a soft redirect for every possible word or phrase to be included in Wikipedia." A redirect for the plural of an informal version of an insult. No idea why this would belong on Wikipedia Fram (talk) 09:20, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete. Search results for "tards" give fine results (including result for the Wiktionary entry). Skynxnex (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete. I read those pages listed above, and now I can conclude that search is efficient enough. AKK700 19:55, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:RFD#D1. This is perhaps the most egregious D1 I've seen - most are just strange results but this one literally blocks the search engine in favour of a sister project's search. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:30, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :It actually takes you direct to :wikt:tards rather than Wiktionary's search. Thryduulf (talk) 02:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
  • ::What an odd way for the URL to work. Thanks for pointing that out, anyway. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:40, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Retarget to List of disability-related terms with negative connotations#T, where {{no redirect|1=Tard}} is listed (title redirects to Tard, Hungary, but there is a Wiktionary redirect for "tard" in that list), per WP:RNEUTRAL. As far as I can tell, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?fulltext=Search&search=Tards&title=Special:Search&ns0=1 searching for "tards" on English Wikipedia] does not list intellectual disability in the results, so readers are not finding relevant information if this is deleted. It's not an ideal search term, but we should still handle it. Struck my earlier delete !vote as I don't want my clueless misunderstanding to be construed as a personal attack, which I did not intend. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:07, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :There's also retard (pejorative), but I think the list is better. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:09, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Ivanvector. A redirect to a sister project is not aligned with WP:SSRT, as this is not a commonly wikified word nor a page that has been repeatedly re-created. However, it makes sense to redirect from the plural to the singular in the appropriate list. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:03, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

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  • Having just fallen into the rabbit hole of looking for alternative uses of the term, I am inclined to think that some kind of disambiguation should be possible, probably located at the current redirect, Tard. BD2412 T 12:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Retarget to List of disability-related terms with negative connotations#T. I have converted the former redirect Tard to a disambiguation page, but there is only one use of "Tards". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:07, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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==Iravaakaalam==

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==MedCrave Group, LLC==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 03:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

No information at the target, one of thousands of predatory publishers. It's not special enough to deserve its own mention. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:05, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete. I regard Headbomb as an expert in these matters. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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==IntechOpen==

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:The result of the discussion was soft delete

. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_preload&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:IntechOpen}}&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 31#IntechOpen}}&editintro=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_intro&preloadtitle={{urlencode:IntechOpen}}§ion=new&title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_undeletion&create=Request request undeletion of these articles]. ✗plicit 03:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

No information at the target, one of thousands of predatory publishers, though would be more accurately described as a vanity press than a predatory publisher. It's not special enough to deserve its own mention. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 03:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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==Richest people of Ukraine (2009)==

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==Sm.==

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==2026 Berlin state election==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 03:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

The 2026 elections did not happen yet, and now the 2023_Berlin_state_election did happen ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 00:58, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete: This should absolutely be a redlink per WP:REDYES. It doesn't help people to target the 2023 election if they are searching for info about the 2026 election, especially when one of the more prominent links to the {{-r|2026 Berlin state election}} is from the infobox nav in the 2023 Berlin repeat state election article. This was created from a move from the 2026 page to 2023 but the edit history is at the location of the moved article. The edit history here is slightly troubling as an article was BLARred after a declined PROD, but the page was unsourced and one sentence at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_Berlin_state_election&oldid=1139104277 time of BLARring], so I am ok with deletion in spite of that somewhat weird page history. TartarTorte 12:45, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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