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= November 25 =

Spybot is blocking me from connecting to my wireless router

I have a wireless router, but I can't connect to it. I know the problem isn't the router, because my other computers can connect to it without any problems. I can also connect to other wireless connections without any problems. The problem only occurred after installing Spybot. 98.221.84.235 (talk) 00:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:Spybot does have the feature of blocking registry changes (it prompts you to deny or accept each change), so, if the wireless router for some reason requires a registry change, this could, indeed, be the prob. StuRat (talk) 01:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:So if you turn off all of Spybot's features, can you connect? --128.97.245.27 (talk) 03:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

::I uninstalled spybot, but I still can't connect. Can there still be protections active that prevent me from connecting? 98.221.84.235 (talk) 14:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:::You did reboot after uninstalling, right? Assuming the answer is yes: I have often found it helpful to first connect to the router's web-based administrative interface when there is trouble connecting to the web. If you type "ipconfig" from the command line on one of the computers that are connected, you'll get some lines of information, in which the IP address of the router is presented as the default gateway. If you type that address in the address bar of your browser, you will either see the login window of the router's administrative interface, or get a message that the connection is not working. I have several times experienced that first connecting to the router, gets the connection to the web working, for some reason. Typing "ipconfig /renew" from the command line might also help (if you are using DHCP, which is the default). If you are able connect to the router, but not to the web, there is probably a DNS problem. You can diagnose that by typing the IP address of a website directly into the address bar of your browser. You can find the IP address of a website (say, en.wikipedia.org) by using the command nslookup en.wikipedia.org on one of the computers that are connected. Comparing the network settings in the control panel of the computers that are working with the one that isn't, might also be helpful. As might checking whether a wired connection works. --NorwegianBlue talk 21:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Laptop Overheating

Lately my laptop has been overheating. After an hour or so it shuts down. The green battery lot [LED?] blacks out and doesn't reappear for several hours. I need to pull in and out the AC cord to get the battery light back. The battery was used up a month ago and I've been using electric power since. But I only had this problem recently. --Gary123 (talk) 02:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:Some suggestions to prevent laptop overheating:

:1) Don't use it on your lap, put it on a metal table (which conducts heat) or on "rails" so air can circulate underneath it.

:2) Point a fan at it.

:3) Keep the room temperature low. Wear a sweater. StuRat (talk) 03:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

::I've learned about #1 the hard way. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 03:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:::The fan may be locked with dust or may have failed. There may be a BIOS update that better. manages the power. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

::Wow, StuRat, where do you live? :o) I'd almost think that late in November most Wikipedians either 1.) live where it's getting so cold outside that you do have to wear a sweater inside anyways (unless you're overheating your room, which is a waste of energy anyways), or 2.) live somewhere where it's so warm outside that you can't cool it down without using an AC (and I sure hope you don't suggest that for the sake of a computer--that'd be a bit too much of a carbon footprint for any thinking person in the 21st century)... but well, 3.) = who knows... :o) --Thanks for answering (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm a man for all seasons, and so is my advice. I can further customize it for winter (if the Aussies and Kiwis will forgive me) by saying they should use the laptop in a cooler room, such as one with lots of windows, as opposed to an interior room with a roaring fire (hopefully in the fireplace). Using the laptop near an exterior wall within such a room will also help keep it cool, especially if their home insulation is as pathetic as mine (I think my new windows are actually better insulated than the old walls). StuRat (talk) 01:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:I agree with StuRat - but I'd add that there are several companies that sell laptop coolers that sit under the laptop and get rid of the heat by one means or another. My laptop sits on a leather-topped writing desk for much of the time - and because leather is a pretty good insulator, it had terrible overheating problems until I made a little aluminium stand to put it on that allows air to flow underneath - and has a big black bit sticking up behind the screen that acts as a radiator.

:Oh and incidentally: In Texas we are in the brief time each year between air conditioning on full and heating on full - when you can turn off the thermostat and even sit out in the back yard in shorts and a T-shirt and not die from some climate-related disaster. This season started about 10am this morning and is scheduled to end in the next hour or so. :-)

: SteveBaker (talk) 18:26, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

:::I thought such temps were viewed as an open invitation by tornadoes and/or hurricanes. :-) StuRat (talk) 01:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Google results being redirected

About 1/4 of the time I click on a Google result it redirects me to different ad or filler sites tangentially or not at all related to my search. If I hit the back button my browser then I am able to click the link again to get to the actual site. This only happens for Google results. I have tried deleting the cookies of the site I get redirected to, but that does not help at all. I ran my anti-virus (AVG free) and it found nothing. Is this just one cookie wrecking havoc or something more serious? Any help is appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.84.49.100 (talk) 03:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:One of the many problems by brother-in-law has had with his PC sounds almost exactly like this. Something had hijacked his network settings, replacing the DNS IP address with a different DNS based in Ukraine and began taking him to sites that had a keyword in common with the site he expected. IIRC, this one was particularly resistant to removal because it was protected by a rootkit which hid two programs working in tandem to ensure the DNS was always the ukrainian one.

:Test the IP addresses of each DNS with a whois service - DNS's usually belong to your ISP or a bigger ISP company in your country. If you use Windows XP, I would then recommend you run one or more of these rootkit detectors which should show what is being hidden, then halt and destroy all trace of the malicious programs from your disk, the registry, the list of services, etc. Unfortuntely, I'm yet to find a detector that works with Vista. BIG, BIG WARNING: there is a high risk of seriously messing up your PC so, before you start, back up anything you can't replace.

:Astronaut (talk) 05:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:You probably have some sort of spyware or adware. I would get adaware or spyspot search and destroy software ASAP and run them (google them).

Windows 9x on logical partitions?

Dear Wikipedians:

Much to my delight I was able to successfully install Windows NT 5.0-based operating systems (2000 advanced server and XP to be specific) into logical partitions and have them boot off of a neat little DOS primary partition I created at the start of the hard drive (which actually contains an instance of genuine MS-DOS 6.22, yes, I'm still somewhat of a DOS afficionado). I think Microsoft really did a great job designing the booting mechanisms of NT 5.0 operating systems.

However, I'm not so sure if they have done as good a job with Windows 9x. So my question is: could I install Windows 9x into logical partitions and still have them boot properly, or do I have to install each instance of a Windows 9x operating system into its own primary partition (which is a scarce resource, since I'm allowed only 4, whereas logical partitions are unlimited). Or is there some tricks that I can employ to fool Windows 9x into installing and booting off of logical partitions?

Thanks,

70.52.151.100 (talk) 04:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

: With some boot loaders like GRUB you can swap partitions around so the operating system thinks that what should be the F: drive (for example) is actually the C: drive. --wj32 t/c 06:00, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Irritating animated ad that won't go away

I hate being distracted by animations (usually ads) when I try to read something on a site. So I manage flash with Flashblock. and since other animated ads usually come from a different site, I can just block images from that site (a Firefox option that the msWindows version doesn't seem to have, by the way), without missing the images I want to see. Thus I have happily led an almost ad-free surf life for quite some time now. But now there is an ad that often appears at the top of the IMDB site, which Firefox doesn't seem to recognise as an image. Right-clicking on it doesn't give me a list of options. Can anyone tell me how to get rid of this? Note that I don't mind the ad itself quite so much as the animated bit. Here's the section of the source code that appears to be responsible (yes, it's from the old fiend doubleclick).

DirkvdM (talk) 08:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Add the following to your chrome/userContent.css:

: *[src*="doubleclick"], *[href*="doubleclick"] { display: none !important; }

Leave a word on my talkpage if you need more. -- Fullstop (talk) 12:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:I have an extremely low-tech solution to banner ads which I can't otherwise block, I turn the dial on my monitor to increase the vertical size of the display until it no longer fits on the screen, then I turn the other dial to push the display upward until the banner is off the screen. StuRat (talk) 15:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

::StuRat, I find your unique solutions to computer problems endlessly amusing. --98.217.8.46 (talk) 17:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:::Thanks. I have an even lower-tech solution to an analog TV displaying digital TV (from a converter box that puts random blinking crap on the top 8 lines) ... a piece of black electrical tape over that part of the screen. Perhaps duct tape would have been even more apropo ? :-) StuRat (talk) 01:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

::At work, where they force me to use msbloodyWindows and I can't install anything, I use something similar for ads at the sides: I 'minimise' the window, but make it screen-wide, move it sideways so the ad disappears off-screen and then when I want to see the whole page I maximise. Thus, I can toggle between full-page and ad-free. Alas, this doesn't work for ads at the top. Or can one grab a window without using the top bar with msbloodyWindows as well? Haven't bothered to find that out actually. What's that called anyway? DirkvdM (talk) 18:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

:::What, a title bar? You can move windows on Windows with the keyboard: select Move from the control menu, and then use the arrow keys. I think that will let you move them at least partially off the screen. (Also, the usual terminology is to "restore" or "unmaximize" a window; "minimize" means to reduce to an icon or other small object (a button, commonly) that isn't a window at all.) --Tardis (talk) 18:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Thanks for correcting me. I should learn to remember the words for things. That makes it a lot easier to look things up. :) But what I meant is, what does one call that 'grabbing' of the window? You mention a method to move it with the arrow keys, but I once stumbled upon a way to grab it (anywhere on the window) with the mouse while holding down certain keys, and then moving it about. DirkvdM (talk) 08:34, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::I don't know a name for it (except something obvious and cumbersome like "drag anywhere in the window"); what keys (if any) enable it depend on your window manager (or version of Windows) and can probably be customized. --Tardis (talk) 15:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

:Fullstop, thanks. Took a while, but I found /home/Dirk/.mozilla/firefox/bk2jnqo3.default/chrome/userChrome-example.css. Good thing they put an example there, because else I wouldn't have found it. So I made a new file, with the name userChrome.css, with just your line in it, in the same location. Is that the right place? I ask because at the top of the example it says: "Edit this file and copy it as userChrome.css into your profile-directory/chrome/". Annoying that they never say what 'your user profile' means. Anyway, I've tested it, but the ad is not always there, so only time will tell if it works. Btw, when I studied html some years ago, I wanted to play with the browser's css because users should always decide themselves how sites are presented. So now I know where to do that. Too bad my knowledge is a bit rusty. The first thing I would like to do is stop ads from taking up (blank) space on my screen. Any idea how to do that? DirkvdM (talk) 18:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Damn, no it didn't work (completely). The ad is there again. Now the TOP_AD section in the source has changed a bit:

Oh, I now notice the comment and the div section are only visible in the source. How do I stop it from rendering? I thought that would work with the tag, but apparently not. Anyway....

The last lines are the same, with the