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Convergence Question

Consider the following complex-valued two-way sequences: S = ...,a_{-2},a_{-1},a_{0},a_{1},a_{2},... with the property that \sum_{n \in \mathbb{Z}} |a_n|^2 converges. Suppose you have a sequence of such sequences S_1,S_2,S_3,... which and converges to ...,b_{-2},b_{-1},b_{0},b_{1},b_{2}... Show that \sum_{n \in \mathbb{Z}} |b_n|^2 converges too. Widener (talk) 12:34, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

:How are you defining convergence in the space of sequences? Rckrone (talk) 21:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

::They're convergent sequences, so presumably you just identify them with their limits. Any other definition would seen strange to me. --Tango (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

:::I think it means pointwise convergence. So if S_i = ...,a_{-2}^i, a_{-1}^i, a_0^i, a_1^i, a_2^i,..., then

b_n = \lim_i a_n^i. Of course, in this interpretation, the stated result is false. Define a_n^i = 1 if |n| < i and =0 otherwise.--121.73.35.181

::::Sorry. It does not mean pointwise convergence; it means convergence under the metric d(S_i,S_j) = \sum_{k \in \mathbb{Z}} |a_k^i-a_k^j|^2. --Widener (talk) 00:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)(talk) 23:54, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

:::::You should think of using the triangle inequality with b_n = a_n^i - (a_n^i - b_n). Sławomir Biały (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

:If it helps: a sequence a_n such that \sum |a_n|^2 converges must converge to ____? Sławomir Biały (talk) 22:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

::I misunderstood your question. This observation will not help. Sławomir Biały (talk) 01:37, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

:So you are dealing with a convergent sequence S_i in the Hilbert space \ell^2(\Z). A convergent sequence is bounded, and the norm is continuous. So \|S\|_2=\lim_{i\to\infty}\|S_i\|_2 < +\infty (which you can prove directly by the triangle inequality as suggested above). --pma 09:39, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks ! 00:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)Widener (talk)

Example of Limitation of Riemann integration

How do You show That \sum_{k=2}^\infty \frac{1}{\log(k)}\sin(kx) is Not a Fourier series Of a Riemann integrable Function? Widener (talk) 14:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

:Why don't you start by trying to explain why

:: \frac{\pi^2}{3} + \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{4(-1)^k}{k^2} \, \cos(kx) \,

:is a Fourier series of a Riemann integrable function? Fly by Night (talk) 17:17, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

::Is it because the sequence of Fourier coefficients is not in l_2(\mathbb{Z})? Widener (talk) 23:06, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

:::Yes. Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:19, 15 August 2012 (UTC)