Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#52 articles on French railway stations
= Technical requests =
== Uncontroversial technical requests ==
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes (federal electoral district) | 2 = Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes | discuss = | reason = Removing unnecessary disambiguator. — | sig = An Macanese 07:25, 25 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = An Macanese}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Where Eagles Dare (Misfits song) | 2 = Where Eagles Dare (song) | discuss = | reason = WP:SONGDAB. | sig = JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 21:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = JohnCWiesenthal}}
::Page movers: Note the existence of Where Eagles Dare (Iron Maiden song), which is currently a redirect. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Bulang people | 2 = Blang people | discuss = | reason = 'Blang' is the endonym of the ethnicity. 'Bulang' is an exonym rendition of Chinese language. It would be unfair to the ethnicity to use a variant of its exonyms. Their language, Blang language also uses Blang not Bulang.| sig = Chainwit. (talk) 09:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Chainwit.}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Stanis Idumbo Muzambo | 2 = Stanis Idumbo | discuss = | reason = WP:COMMONNAME since moving to Sevilla in Spain. | sig = Ortizesp (talk) 01:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Ortizesp}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Kopi tiam | 2 = Kopitiam | discuss = | reason = Per WP:COMMONNAME, everyone and online searches addresses the shop as "Kopitiam" without spacing, even in the article mostly uses "kopitiam" itself extensively. | sig = Syn73 (talk) 16:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Syn73}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Kingdom of Kumaon | 2 = Kumaon Kingdom | discuss = | reason = WP:COMMONNAME | sig = — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 03:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Hemant Dabral}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = José María Calatrava y Peinado | 2 = José María Calatrava | discuss = | reason = COMMONNAME per refs, see Spanish Wiki | sig = Ortizesp (talk) 14:06, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Ortizesp}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = San Francisco Parks Trust | 2 = San Francisco Parks Alliance | discuss = | reason = The creation of the Parks Alliance occurred over 10 years ago and the name San Francisco Parks Alliance is now much more common. If this move is approved, I'll work on post-move clean-up. Thank you | sig = 176.108.139.1 (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = 176.108.139.1}}
::This article describes the Parks Trust in past tense as a defunct entity that was merged with something else to create the new entity called San Francisco Parks Alliance. The current article has historical value in describing the old Trust before its closure. The current redirect at San Francisco Parks Alliance could be developed into a separate article on the new Alliance. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Mattie Mitchell | 2 = Matty Mitchell | discuss = | reason = earliest writings and references of Matty Mitchell were spelled Matty, it's the more original shortening / nickname of his full name Matthieu Michel, it's what he has been known as and spelled for most of the recorded history on him | sig = — Preceding unsigned comment added by BuchansHeritage (talk • contribs) 18:19, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = BuchansHeritage}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Drury Ministry | 2 = Drury ministry | discuss = | reason = make sentence case WP:AT | sig = Legend of 14 (talk) 02:07, 24 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Legend of 14}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Kostyantynopil | 2 = Kostiantynopil | discuss = | reason = Use official romanization per WP:UAPLACE. | sig = Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Shwabb1}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Raúl Castillo | 2 = Raúl Castillo (actor) | discuss = | reason = Too similar to Raul Castillo (which I already moved) and needs to be converted to a dab. | sig = QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = QuietHere}}
- :Raul Castillo now a dab (article at Raul Castillo (fighter)), so Raúl Castillo should be redirected there. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Ray Vaughn (rapper) | 2 = Ray Vaughn | discuss = | reason = Most popular article of the DAB by far. | sig = Roasted (talk) 12:21, 24 May 2025 (CST; lost in UTC conversion, just using my local) | requester = Roastedbeanz1}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Infrared Data Association | 2 = IrDA | discuss = | reason = So the reason for this would be because the main topic of the article is about the technology itself which is 'IrDA' rather than the name of the group that made it. IrDA is also the commonly used and recognized name by everyone, in a similar way that 'Wi-Fi' is the recognized name in place of 'Wireless LAN'. | sig = Knoxmann (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Knoxmann}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Tahúres zurdos | 2 = Tahúres Zurdos | discuss = | reason = This is currently a redirect, but the band is usually referred to with both words capitalized. | sig = Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 03:44, 25 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Revirvlkodlaku}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Ch'oe Manli | 2 = Ch'oe Malli | discuss = | reason = Incorrect application of McCune–Reischauer romanization of Korean for this person's name; names are supposed to be assimilated. For proof, see this template which generates an automatic romanization: {{Korean/auto|%최만리|mr=yes}}. | sig = grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 08:10, 25 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Grapesurgeon}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = WWE Evolution | 2 = WWE Evolution (2018) | discuss = | reason = professional wrestling event chronology | sig = YeedyYaada (talk) 08:26, 25 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = YeedyYaada}}
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Mekuti | 2 = Mae Ku | discuss = | reason = Moved to original name according to the Chiang Mai Chronicle | sig = Inner789 (talk) 10:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Inner789}}
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== Requests to revert undiscussed moves ==
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Black-and-white | 2 = Black and white | discuss = | reason = Article titles should be nouns and not adjectives per WP:NOUN. [https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=black+and+white American Heritage Dictionary] lists the hyphenated version as the adjective spelling and the hyphenless version as the noun spelling. [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/black%20and%20white Merriam-Webster] lists the hyphenated version as an adjective and the hyphenless version as a noun with the meaning described in the article (though the hyphenated version is listed as a synonym for "squad car"). Most of the data on [https://www.oed.com/dictionary/black-and-white_adj?tab=factsheet#204816971 OED] is paywalled, but the page title has no hyphens and is listed as both adjective and noun. | sig = Literally Satan (talk) 03:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Literally Satan}}
:: @Literally Satan This reverts a 2023 move by {{mention|InfiniteNexus|p=}} that appears undiscussed? Bensci54 (talk) 16:35, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
::: I had trouble figuring out the move history so if it belongs in this section rather than the one I put it in then so be it. I continue to request the move for the reasons stated above. -Literally Satan (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
:Title has [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Black+and+white been in place for two years], disqualifying it as an auto undo of an undiscussed move. However, consider this just as a just regular new technical request, seemingly in line with the naming policy WP:NOUN over a hyphenated adjective. —Bagumba (talk) 12:37, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
::{{yo|Bagumba}} Where is this policy or guideline declaring that two years is too long to qualify as a "reversion of an undiscussed move"? NBA All-Star Game Most Valuable Player had an [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NBA_All-Star_Game_Most_Valuable_Player&diff=prev&oldid=941006983 undiscussed move] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NBA_All-Star_Game_Most_Valuable_Player&diff=prev&oldid=1289558616 reverted more than five years afterwards]. Left guide (talk) 18:15, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
:::WP:TITLECHANGES. YMMV. But it seems moot, as I'm proposing to avoid WP:BURO and just process this as a policy-based technical request. —Bagumba (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
== Contested technical requests ==
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Grazing antelope | 2 = Hippotragini | discuss = | reason = "grazing antelope" is very ambiguous and does not seem to be widely used as a specific name for this group of antelopes. Hippotragini seems slightly more common than Hippotraginae over the last 15 years according to scholar [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=2010&q=Hippotragini&btnG=] [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=2010&q=Hippotraginae&btnG=] | sig = Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:28, 24 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Hemiauchenia}}
:This is not an uncontroversial technical request. See WP:PCM. 162 etc. (talk) 21:53, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Miss Star International | 2 = Miss Trans Star International | discuss = | reason = Fixing name, cannot move by self to requested page | sig = PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 11:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = PhoenixCaelestis}}
- :WP:PCM: was moved in the other direction in October 2023. Even considering the organization may have renamed themselves back to the original name, a WP:NAMECHANGES discussion may be a good idea. Per article talk, editor claiming to be executive director, who is appealing their block, had also requested this move. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:48, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Mohamed Saeed (Maldivian politician) | 2 = Mohamed Saeed | discuss = | reason = Adding "(Maldivian politician)" to the end is weird and the target title I'm trying to move it to fits the article better | sig = Unilandofma(Talk to me!) 09:36, 23 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Unilandofma}}
- :There are two cricketers with the same name listed at Mohammed Said. A full discussion is needed to make a primary topic grab. older ≠ wiser 11:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- ::The two cricketers you mentioned have their names as "Mohammad Saeed" while the person I'm talking about has his name as "Mohamed Saeed". Unilandofma(Talk to me!) 16:42, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- :::And you don't think that is easily confused? I think some discussion and consensus would help to establish whether there is a primary topic for that spelling variant. older ≠ wiser 12:46, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Post Traumatic | 2 = Post Traumatic (Mike Shinoda album) | discuss = | reason = Post Traumatic (Tee Grizzley album) already exists, will need disambiguation | sig = Quwoting2 / Mhm? 11:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Quwoting2}}
- :Shinoda album gets a good majority of the pageviews and may still be the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 16:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- :Changing the status quo of this being the primary topic would require discussion. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Beverly Hills, California | 2 = Beverly Hills | discuss = | reason = per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE, etc. If "Beverly Hills" is just a redirect and not a disambig page, I can request it. | sig = Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 05:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Freedoxm}}
- :WP:USPACE: {{tq|Using disambiguation by state in cases where it is not necessary has the advantage of providing consistent article titles for places in the United States (a majority of which are ambiguous and so require disambiguation anyway), but the disadvantage of inconsistency with titles used for articles on places in most other countries (where redundant disambiguation is not used), as well as a loss of conciseness. Current convention is to omit the state only with the well-known cities which the Associated Press lists as not requiring the state qualifier in a journalistic context, unless they, like Phoenix, conflict with another non-geographic article; the AP Stylebook is a reliable source, written in American English.}} (bold mine, italics original). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 08:29, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- ::I would advise the OP to further review Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Remove state from US placenames and this March 2025 discussion on the issue, as going to a full RM discussion would likely not succeed. Zzyzx11 (talk) 13:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Rapid Support Forces | 2 = Government of Peace and Unity | discuss = | reason = Probably should merge the Government of Peace and Unity into the RSF and renaming it considering the fact that the RSF officially claims they are the government of Sudan. | sig = 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:984E:8CCC:55D8:2929 (talk) 17:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:984E:8CCC:55D8:2929}}
- :* Oppose move - this violates WP:NPOV as the RSF is not legitimate. Freedoxm (talk · contribs) 05:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = 4th Street (Manhattan) | 2 = 4th Street | discuss = | reason = Appears to be established as the WP:PRIMARY topic based on the redirect. | sig = Graham (talk) 03:48, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Graham11}}
:: @Graham11 I don't disagree with this move, but this page does have an old RM, making it ineligible for RMTR. A full RM will be required. Bensci54 (talk) 13:28, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
:::Specifically, Talk:Houston Street#Requested move in 2012, which found consensus for keeping the extra disambiguation in the case of such numbered streets. 162 etc. (talk) 03:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Silver Slugger Award | 2 = Silver Slugger | discuss = | reason = WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE, "Award" is an unnecessary generic descriptor that doesn't make the title more recognizable, and only adds length. | sig = Left guide (talk) 02:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Left guide}}
- :It was handled and contested [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=169940630 here afterwards]—Bagumba (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Gold Glove Award | 2 = Gold Glove | discuss = | reason = WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE, "Award" is an unnecessary generic descriptor that doesn't make the title more recognizable, and only adds length. | sig = Left guide (talk) 02:54, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = Left guide}}
- :The move may create confusion with Golden Gloves boxing competition and Golden Glove association football awards. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 03:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- ::I personally think the hatnote suffices and have no opinion on any primary topic questions, as I have not taken the time to research them yet. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:17, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- :Removing "Award" for "Most Valuable Player Award" often makes sense, because the term is applied to the winner, not so much the award itself. But a Gold Glove Award winner would be a Gold Glover, and sources seem split on using the formal "Gold Glove Award" vs shortened "Gold Glove" for the award.[https://www.google.com/search?q=%22gold+glove%22&sca_esv=9657c4bc3a026917&udm=36&ei=nu4uaI_5PICC4-EPx-aimQk&start=20&sa=N&sstk=Af40H4UKzQyS8xbNy0NQBOTs-9GQaLWvZInJWvNaqs7Iu2RuA9kYPNH8YSAWgSkMa6VAsINBVNnC4Zsi_lDd99pOlBcU75MrZcwLzVordjY4mBhBODDfRws5wFjQv1Cgn5QK&ved=2ahUKEwiPwMaE4raNAxUAwTgGHUezKJM4ChDw0wN6BAgBEBc&biw=1280&bih=649&dpr=2] A formal RM seems appropriate. —Bagumba (talk) 09:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- {{RMassist/core | 1 = Gwangju Uprising | 2 = Gwangju Democratization Movement | discuss = | reason = The Problem Between Democracy and Dictatorship in South Korean Political History. | sig = 211.243.12.130 (talk) 08:44, 22 May 2025 (UTC) | requester = 211.243.12.130}}
- :This should be a move request, not uncontroversial grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 17:44, 23 May 2025 (UTC)