Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/195.82.106.244

• {{checkip|195.82.106.244}}
• {{checkuser|brahmakumaris.info}}
• {{checkuser|TalkAbout}}

Long-term edit war at {{la| Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University}}, now listed for consideration at WP:RFAR. Mostly carried on by the IP editor, who started the article a year ago and has maintained a stable IP and interest in the article. Brahmakumaris.info has, among other things, posted 195's preferred version of the article at an alternate title [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_Organisation&diff=prev&oldid=88039336]. Somewhere there is a diff in which 195 posts an e-mail allegedly sent to User:Riveros11 banning him from the brahmakumaris.info web site, which pretty much sews it up, but confirmation would help the arbitration case.

User:TalkAbout's first 100 edits were to Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University and he periodically returns to it, but he seems to have a broader interest in cults in general and in other topics. Given the request for arbitration, it would be useful to know if TalkAbout was a "good persona" maintained by the 195 editor so he could separate his BKWS-related edits. However this suspicion may not rise to the level of a check. (TalkAbout did edit the article while it was sprotected, reinstating large blocks of disputed text [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=87474993&oldid=87178532].) Thatcher131 03:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

{{Unrelated}}. I can find no evidence of any user using 195.82.106.244 (caveat: One account with only one edit to a page completely unrelated to this issue). I can find no connection between brahmakumaris.info and the 195 IP, though brahmakumaris.info does have a new account (not revealing it at this time, will do so if the Arbitration Committee requests). TalkAbout is editing from a completely different hemisphere. Essjay (Talk) 22:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

:Fascinating and much appreciated. Thatcher131 22:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

=== 195.82.106.244 ===

• {{checkuser|195.82.106.244}}

• {{checkuser|brahmakumaris.info}}

• Code letter: C, F

User Brahmakumaris.info is strongly suspected as a sockpuppet of user 195.82.106.244

Reversion of webpages which deal with Brahma Kumaris world Spiritual University:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=brahma+kumaris+world+spiritual&fulltext=Search]

"forest fire." See user Sethie reverting them:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jossi]

Final Proof: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brahmakumaris.info] This user points to his website: www.brahmakumaris.info

This website ftp server is being hosted in the following IP address:195.82.106.244 - http://195.82.106.244/Login That is the user in question IP.

User 195.82.106.244 was caught as owner of this site here:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University/Archive04#Proof_which_demonstrates_user_195.82.106.244_is_part_of_the_.22team_effort.22_on_the_BKINFO_forum]

after denying here:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University/Archive02] replying to user bksimonb

quote:"I have absolutely no representative powers over any other contributor nor the website http://brahmakumaris.info [2]. To the best of my awareness there is nothing that you could say constitutes a team effort, or if there is I am not party to it." signed by:195.82.106.244 18:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

User Brahmakumaris.info Contributions:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/brahmakumaris.info]

User .244 has not responded to simple question: Is this account a sockpuppet of brahmakumaris.info? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University]

Differentials:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BKIVV&diff=prev&oldid=88038878]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_Organization&diff=prev&oldid=88038992]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=88091964] Note same user adding links. Same date (Nov 15th for "forest fire")

Best Wishes, 72.91.4.91 02:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC) avyakt7

:: Here you are. Thanks! Differentials:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=67871051]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=55717182]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=55163484]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=55141576]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=55077757]

(note that both users in question do not delete each others work but rather complement it)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=87349813]

(User Brahmakumaris.info took away the sprotect tag placed by admin. In this way user 195.82.106.244 could post)

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=57043474]

(brhmakumais.info moved pages to a new page, however here:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/brahmakumaris.info] Note November 15th changes and here[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061115233900&limit=50&target=195.82.106.244] user 195.82.106.244 activity on the same day.)

link to versions: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&offset=20061112232759&action=history]

72.91.169.22 20:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC) AVYAKT7

:{{moreinfo}}: Is this a WP:SOCK violation? 3RR evasion, or what? If so, give links to four the diffs. Dmcdevit·t 07:18, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Sir, This is all of the above and more.. See the following diffs given to me by another user:

Disparaging and provocative POV presented as fact in discussion (trolling)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=81671979

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=72966898

Bogus personal attack report and deletion of comment...

He also reported yuser riveros11 on a personal attack intervention board with a very attacking diatribe...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard&diff=72970949&oldid=72938312

Someone answered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard&diff=73255654&oldid=73233888

244 obviously didn't like the comment so he deleted it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard&diff=73321595&oldid=73262756

Personal attack on Riveros11...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=72604418

Bad faith edit comments....

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=46049548

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University/Archive01&diff=prev&oldid=46248082

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=46454216

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=72974012

Personal information and false allegation of sockpuppet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Searchin_man&diff=prev&oldid=78611725

Intimidation...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Searchin_man&diff=prev&oldid=78611859

Taunting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University/Archive01&diff=61977524&oldid=61757720

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=79462780

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Searchin_man&diff=prev&oldid=79039277

Removing NPOV...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=87720049

Removing page protection (probably to be able to post again as 244, evidence of sock puppet)...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=87349813

Changing others' discussion and offensive edit comment....

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=78613369

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University&diff=prev&oldid=72974012

Shifting of burden of proof onto those questioning the article...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_University/Archive01&diff=prev&oldid=56414724

Forest fire...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BKWSU&diff=prev&oldid=88038472

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Om_Mandali&diff=prev&oldid=88038609

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_Ishwariya_Vishwa_Vidyalaya&diff=prev&oldid=88038702

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BKIVV&diff=prev&oldid=88038878

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_Organization&diff=prev&oldid=88038992

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris&diff=prev&oldid=88039070

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Renewal_Trust&diff=prev&oldid=88039230

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brahma_Kumaris_World_Spiritual_Organisation&diff=prev&oldid=88039336

Hope this is enough. Best, 72.91.169.22 14:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC) avyakt7

:{{declined}}. Please read the policy I linked, Disruptive behavior is not the same as abusive sockpuppetry, and this is not WP:DR or WP:ANI. Those appear to be what you are looking for, since you haven't offered clear evidence of a prihibited use of a sockpuppet. Dmcdevit·t 07:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)