Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/1971asif/Archive

• {{checkuser|1=1971asifintisar}} ({{clerknote}} original case name)

{{sock list|1=Bruno pnm ars|2=ApurboWiki2024|3=Shayaantik|tools_link=yes}}

Initially started as an SPI between sock 1 & 2, but upon further investigation, I discovered BPA editing the talk page of blocked user {{checkuser|1971asifintisar}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&action=history]. Which seems like there is a good case for that being the actual master.

The rest here is about the two sock interactions.

This SPI was initially based on these two RM comments are clearly based off of one another [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Students%E2%80%93People%27s_uprising_(Bangladesh)#c-Bruno_pnm_ars-20250119215800-Requested_move_19_January_2025] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Students%E2%80%93People%27s_uprising_(Bangladesh)#c-ApurboWiki2024-20250119092500-Requested_move_19_January_2025], which brought attention. They also appear to be using a LLM, which is the reason {{checkuser|Jesuspaul502}} was blocked, who was writing in other Bangladesh related articles.

Then I noticed:

• [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Students%E2%80%93People%27s_uprising_(Bangladesh)#c-Ahammed_Saad-20241017080200-New_article this ping] seemed inappropriate to notify AW since they had not interacted on the talk page [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/ApurboWiki2024/1/Students%E2%80%93People%27s%20uprising%20%28Bangladesh%29] and only a single minor page edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1250949246]. And while some of the other pings look fishy, nothing clearly suspect except possibly {{checkuser|Wrzedn}} who never edit this page nor talk page, but probably edits in the same circles.
• Draft:Resignation of Sheikh Hasina it was created by Shayaantik, later edited by AW and then by BPA -- in waves, but never interlaced.

:* There is no indication there was any on-wiki notification about the draft, and there was an odd talk page interaction Draft talk:Resignation of Sheikh Hasina

• Volting agreement: {{section link|Talk:2024_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_violence#Indian_citation}} and {{section link|Talk:List_of_speakers_and_deputy_speakers_of_the_Jatiya_Sangsad|Requested move 21 January 2025}}
• AW was accused of possibly being a sock {{section link|User_talk:ApurboWiki2024#Prior_account}}.

• No direct evidence of being related, but might also might be related to:

:* Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CosmLearner/Archive

What started as fishy got narrowed down to several suspicious DUCK quacks. TiggerJay (talk) 17:51, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

:Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

• These two are possibly the same person, though they may be two people collaborating at a location. Same IP, same subjects, same editing times, but pretty clearly different editing devices: {{sock list|Keemstar148|Bruno pnm ars}} I am inclined slightly more toward them being the same person - the IPs bounce around and none are obviously connected to the kind of location you would have multiple people editing at. I haven't looked at the others but didn't see them on the networks of interest. Izno (talk) 22:40, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
• See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bruno pnm ars. {{user|Bruno pnm ars}} appears to be self-declared[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bruno_pnm_ars&diff=prev&oldid=1197717602][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=prev&oldid=1197717404][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=next&oldid=1197718809][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=prev&oldid=1197718809], along with {{User|1971asif}} and {{User|Saiful77}}, as an account created after the master {{User|1971asifintisar}} was blocked, but Bruno denies it. DrKay (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
• I have blocked and tagged Bruno pnm ars as the similarity of edits and topic interests across the English, Bengali and Italian wikipedias (and no other languages) is too near to ignore. DrKay (talk) 19:02, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
• I'm inclined to give the other accounts the benefit of the doubt. The cross-wiki editing pattern is different. DrKay (talk) 19:11, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
• {{awaitingadmin}} - moved to 1971asif (oldest account) and tagged 1971asifintisar and Bruno pnm ars as proven. Given technical evidence and behavior, please, block Keemstar148. I think we can leave the other accounts alone at the moment. MarioGom (talk) 19:28, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
• {{bnt}} Joyous! Noise! 04:19, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Bruno pnm ars}} ({{clerknote}} originally filed under this user)

{{sock list|1=1971asif|2=1971asifintisar|tools_link=yes}}

similarities in edit patterns https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phaim_Bhuiyan&action=history and looks like a confession https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bruno_pnm_ars&diff=prev&oldid=1197717602 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bruno_pnm_ars&diff=next&oldid=1213658878https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=next&oldid=1197717404https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=next&oldid=1197734570 Bongan^® →TalkToMe← 15:45, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

:Edit patterns, such as mobile edits and edits without an edit summary. Bongan^® →TalkToMe← 17:21, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

::Bruno pnm ars is adding a movie list to her old user page.https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=prev&oldid=1197732259 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:1971asifintisar&diff=prev&oldid=1197732792 Bongan^® →TalkToMe← 07:21, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

:Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

• I understand that concerns have been raised by Bongan^® regarding my past edits, and i'd like to clarify the situation. While it is true that I made the edits [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1197732792&title=User:1971asifintisar 1], [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1197732259&title=User:1971asifintisar 2] in question on 21 January 2024, these were made without any intention of deception or misconduct. At the time, I was still learning Wikipedia’s editing policies, and those edits were made in good faith. However, the claim that I am the same person as another user/s is completely unfounded. I have always edited independently and have no connection to the account/s. A couple of edits on the same date do not constitute proof of sock puppetry, and I believe this accusation lacks substantial evidence. I am happy to cooperate if any further clarification is needed. Bruno (📩) 01:32, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

• {{CUdecline}} - {{np|1971asif}} and {{np|1971asifintisar}} are {{IPstale}}. PhilKnight (talk) 17:50, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
• {{Clerk Request}} Can we please move this to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/1971asifintisar? DrKay (talk) 18:48, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
• Moved to 1971asif, closing. MarioGom (talk) 19:29, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Jalalaba|tools_link=yes}}

• pro forma. Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:36, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

:Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

• {{Confirmed}} to {{np|Bruno pnm ars}} and {{np| Keemstar148}}. Blocked and tagged; noting for the record.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:36, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

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