Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alon9393/Archive#03 October 2024

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=18 September 2024=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=Monophile|2=Moarnighar|tools_link=yes}}

  • Shared interest in deleting Kfir Tsafrir
  • Interest in singers and technology.
  • Interest in Pakistan and India in South Asia and in Israel in West Asia.
  • The connection is best seen through interaction tools. [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Alon9393&users=Monophile&users=Moarnighar interaction]
  • Similar user setups. gidonb (talk) 19:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

::Rather than arguing, I will trust user:Izno's take on this. Too much arguing at WP. Withdrawn. gidonb (talk) 00:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

==<big>Comments by other users</big>==

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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • {{moreinfo}} - Monophile appears to be in opposition to Alon regularly. Are you suggesting they are a good hand of a bad faith account? And the connection to Moarnighar looks similarly poorly made. Please provide specific diffs that indicate similar behavior. Izno (talk) 23:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Ok. Izno (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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=03 October 2024=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=181.197.42.215|tools_link=yes}}

I believe this IP is being used to evade a block on Alon9393. Edits began only after Alon9393 was blocked, and while the two accounts show [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Alon9393&users=181.197.42.215 only one page of overlap], there are multiple behavioral clues. Alon9393 was blocked for disruptive participation in AfDs and often used idiosyncratic phrases like "{{tq|no encyclopedic relevance}}" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Robert_Israel_Shinn&diff=prev&oldid=1245173829 diff]), "{{tq|no encyclopedic relevance is verified}}" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/FUNREDES&diff=1245913371&oldid=1245195104 diff]) and "{{tq|my position is to maintain}}" ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Any.do_(2nd_nomination)&diff=prev&oldid=1245690928 diff], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Juan_Manuel_Bell%C3%B3n_L%C3%B3pez&diff=prev&oldid=1245554479 diff]). The IP editor uses identical phrases in AfD !votes that are not policy-based (see "[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rules_and_Referee_Committee&diff=prev&oldid=1249089733 {{tq|no encyclopedic relevance is verified}}]" and "[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles%20for%20deletion/CiberCuba&diff=prev&oldid=1249200333 {{tq|my position is to maintain}}]"). My view is that this IP editor is a sock evading a block. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • Blocked earlier. Izno (talk) 04:57, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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=14 October 2024=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=181.197.42.215|tools_link=yes}}

This IP became active after Alon9393 was blocked. The IP is throwing [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Abu_Aleeha_(2nd_nomination)&diff=prev&oldid=1251077548 random] votes in AFDs, similar to what Alon9393 did. I suspect they may have other accounts that they're using to influence the AFD outcomes. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

:I just found out that this IP was previously blocked for WP:BE by {{ping|Izno}}. I suggest we restrict this IP range from editing WP namespace and participating in AFD for a year.--— Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:22, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • Actually, {{U|ScottishFinnishRadish}} is the one to block this IP previously. Perhaps they can block again. Izno (talk) 16:31, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  • :I blocked for ECR violations, nothing to do with socking. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:06, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Ok, reviewing previous established relationship, yes, likely the same individual as the previous filing. No, I don't think we need a full year of project space, a month of all space may also do the trick. Izno (talk) 20:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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=10 November 2024=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=Pitille02|tools_link=yes}}

Pitille02 has been engaged in disruptive editing at AfDs (opening discussions with weak/non-existent rationales and throwing poorly argued !votes that prolong discussions) but that's the only similarity to Alon9393. However, es-wiki admin Taichi [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pitille02&diff=prev&oldid=1256449936 has said] that Pitille02 was [https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:Registro&page=Usuario%3APitille02&type=block blocked on es-wiki] as a sock of Alon9393 and given the disruptive behavior on en-wiki, I think it would be worth reviewing. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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  • Greetings. About this guy, we can confirm that he has used about 200 socks since {{u|Mmoreno25}} in our principal page of Wikipedia in Spanish. On February, in Wikipedia in English, his sock was {{u|57ntaledane90}}. Pichu VI (talk) 14:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • Confirmed to master. Izno (talk) 23:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Tagging per the findings. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 13:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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=14 November 2024=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=190.219.102.114|tools_link=yes}}

This IP address became active shortly after Alon9393 sock Pitille02 was blocked and has similar interests in tropical storms/hurricanes. The IP attempted to AfD an article that Pitille02 had nominated for deletion ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Los_Juglares_del_Dexas&diff=next&oldid=1257237904 diff]). The IP also uses the word "notoriety" when they likely mean "notability," as seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TheTechnician27&diff=prev&oldid=1257292139 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GrabUp&diff=prev&oldid=1257271212 here] -- very similar to Alon9393 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Helge_Rasche&diff=prev&oldid=1245312712 diff], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cerro_Azul,_Panama&diff=prev&oldid=1245230492 diff], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ravindra_Kumar_Mishra&diff=prev&oldid=1245694947 diff]). Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • Sure. Izno (talk) 18:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

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=03 January 2025=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=Tgvarrt|tools_link=yes}}

Please see WP:ANI#Another Alon9393 puppet. I think the IP's comments are mostly nonsensical. The new account uses the same editing platforms. Obsession with AfDs, mostly commenting at them. I'm requesting CU to confirm because I'm not familiar enough with this case to block based on behavior. Bbb23 (talk) 22:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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  • There very first edit was to an AFD where they cited SIGCOV, a reference that a brand new editor wouldn't know about. So, they are clearly not a new user, it's questionable whose sock they are. Liz Read! Talk! 01:54, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • {{confirmed}} to {{checkuser|Pitille02}}. Spicy (talk) 02:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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=12 January 2025=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

  • {{checkuser|1=Pitille02}} ({{clerknote}} original case name)

{{sock list|1=190.219.101.169|2=190.219.101.187|tools_link=yes}}

Seems to be an person which is doing an IP hopping to try to prevent block. Same tendency to advert possible editors (including me) to AFD the article Calito Soul. Special:Contributions/190.219.101.187 Special:Contributions/190.219.101.169 Protoeus (talk) 02:02, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • Another IP on the range from a couple weeks ago. Blocked for a month. Izno (talk) 21:01, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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= 25 January 2025 =

==Suspected sockpuppets==

  • {{sock list|1=190.32.218.181 |tools_link=yes}}

Seems to be in the same IP range as the other ones who were blocked, and it’s still editing the article Calito Soul. Protoeus (talk) 01:40, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

== Comments by other users ==

== Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments ==

  • IP is stale at this point. Please ensure you use the main WP:SPI form or Twinkle to submit new cases. Izno (talk) 20:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

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=06 February 2025=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=190.219.102.104|tools_link=yes}}

obvious Alon9393 sock. IP user going around trying to get multiple editors to file an AfD for Calito Soul. Dclemens1971 (talk) 05:40, 6 February 2025 (UTC) Dclemens1971 (talk) 05:40, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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Additionally, it's probably worth keeping an eye on 190.5.235.179: another Panamanian IP whose only edit so far has been on Calito Soul. I also see another sock has opened a deletion discussion for the article on Spanish WP. Looks like a clear case of cross-wiki abuse. — Anonymous 20:25, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

  • Already blocked. Izno (talk) 00:59, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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=09 February 2025=

==Suspected sockpuppets==

{{sock list|1=AgusTates|tools_link=yes}}

Filing for the record: found via suspicious activity at AfD. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC) Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==

Pro-forma filing, {{confirmed}} to previous activity from this sockmaster. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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