Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Catflap08/Archive
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=23 April 2018=
==Suspected sockpuppets==
- {{checkip|1=2.247.244.159}}
- Tools: [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/interaction-timeline?wiki=enwiki Interaction Timeline] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Catflap08 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
German-based IP talking about "censorship of sources" on Nichirenism-related articles; Catflap08 is based in Germany and had a noted habit of talking about censorship of sources whenever I or anyone else removed irrelevant citations that had no relation to our content or the like.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=682599510] The IP's claims to being "a reader" and not knowing where to ask questions or post links look like WP:DUCK attempts to hide the fact that they are an experienced user and their being almost immediately aware of an edit made to a low-visibility article makes it extremely difficult to take as just a coincidence. Also phrasing the question in terms of Wikipedia policy is extremely suspicious. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 20:20, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
==<big>Comments by other users</big>==
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==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==
- With only two edits in a half hour period three days ago, and nothing since then, blocking the IP is unlikely to accomplish anything. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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=29 April 2018=
==Suspected sockpuppets==
- {{checkip|1=2.247.253.101}}
- {{checkip|1=2.247.246.165}}
- {{checkip|1=88.130.215.64}}
- {{checkip|1=2.247.246.207}}
- Tools: [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/interaction-timeline?wiki=enwiki Interaction Timeline] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Catflap08 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
Same range as the IP in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Catflap08&oldid=837917179 the last SPI], and the content of its edits are QUACKing like crazy. This[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dai_Gohonzon&diff=644315661&oldid=632229770][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dai_Gohonzon&diff=817466919&oldid=817092346] is particularly glaring. Filing this as a formality, since the edits are stale and the user has moved on to other IPs since then; the talk page comments should be blanked as both WP:EVASION and WP:NOTFORUM, but my understanding is that this would not be appropriate with also filing an SPI, as accusations of sockpuppetry outside of SPI are a no-no. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:12, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
:Added 2.247.246.165. Also 88.130.215.64, since 2.247.246.165 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nichiren&diff=prev&oldid=820044829 resigned] a comment by that IP. Talk:Nichiren has also been edited by a couple of IPs in the German-based globally-blocked 82.113.96.0/20 range: the majority of that range's edits don't look like Catflap, but they also don't look like someone who would have edited a page on a thirteenth-century Japanese monk, so it's possible a Catflap08 sock got caught up in an unrelated incident; but maybe I'm just imagining things and it's a coincidence, but the 2.247... and 88.130... IPs really look like him. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
::{{re|SA 13 Bro}} Well, yeah, but, lacking some smoking-gun "Catflap08 consistently misspells such-and-such word and the IP did the exact same thing", we can't realistically distinguish between a German-based IP that is Catflap08 violating his bans and a German-based IP that is a real-world friend of Catflap08's whom he recruited to act in his stead, and WP:HSOCK does explicitly say that SPI is the place to report suspected meat puppets (even if I don't agree). Anyway, if it's at all relevant Catflap08 also tried to recruit off-site meat puppets [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&diff=prev&oldid=705661607 here]. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:58, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
::2.247.246.207 (noticed by checking the history of SA13Bro's talk page) is also QUACK. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:15, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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:{{reply|Hijiri88}} I am also thought that the collateral shared IP range 2.247.240.0/20 was used by him. Last time he also agree that Nichiren honorific word Dai-Shonin is not a title used by all schools [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nichiren&diff=prev&oldid=791820257 at here,] so I have decided to remove away the Nichiren honorific words "Shonin" and "Dishonin" as per WP:NOTEVERYTHING, just wrote the word "Dai-Nichiren" with 2 reliable sources only. But he was lying, after a moment period of time, he followed the TIMB IPs 104.172.184.93 and 2605:e000::/32 to engage an disruptive editing at Nichiren's article, did the censorship and ownership questions troll on me [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nichiren&diff=prev&oldid=819133865 at here,] his discussions agreement can't be trusted. As for other IP range 82.113.96.0/20 editor, I suspected he maybe invite his meat friend from German Soka Gakkai to campaign the debates as well. SA 13 Bro (talk) 23:49, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==
=19 June 2018=
==Suspected sockpuppets==
- {{checkip|1=2.247.246.156}}
- Tools: [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/interaction-timeline?wiki=enwiki Interaction Timeline] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Catflap08 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
Same as last time. German IP making sarcastic comments about censorship in Wikipedia's articles on Nichiren Buddhism. Same range and everything. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 22:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:{{re|L235}} The IBAN was dissolved in March 2017.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=769856447&oldid=769803915][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AEditing_restrictions&type=revision&diff=769864870&oldid=769476816]
:As for more evidence, Catflap08 talked about "censorship" quite frequently, such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=prev&oldid=682599510 here], as well as specifically claiming image censorship based on religious bias [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gohonzon&diff=prev&oldid=691568861 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gohonzon&diff=prev&oldid=689454337 here], and here's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nichiren_Sh%C5%8Dsh%C5%AB/Archive_2&oldid=844449390#Image_deletion_and_censorship an entire talk section] of Catflap talking about image censorship; this IP claimed image censorship based on religious bias [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nichiren&diff=prev&oldid=846598135 here], and an IP in the same range as this one [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&diff=prev&oldid=837908361 accused me] of censorship two months back, and while no IP in that range had ever edited that article Catflap08 definitely had: the only ways the IP could have noticed the edits except by amazing coincidence would be following the article or following my edits, neither of which a random IP that happens to geolocate to where Catflap08 is would have motive or method for.
:Sorry for the lack of diffs in my original filing, but I assumed that the evidence of Catflap's logged-in behaviour in the archives would be enough, and the IP had made only one edit.
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:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nichiren&diff=846598135&oldid=838625565 This diff] talk about censorship topic at Nichiren's article talk page, the other [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nichiren&diff=846427305&oldid=846423633 IP 2.247.247.32] edited at Nichiren's article look like also him as well. SA 13 Bro (talk) 23:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
==<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>==
- {{re|Hijiri88}} Do you currently have an interaction ban with Catflap08? I can't seem to find it, but I thought you did. Sorry if I'm completely remembering things wrong here. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 15:57, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- {{moreinfo}} - I can't make a finding that they're connected based on the evidence here, even in the archive. Thus:
- In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
- At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster. [N.B. You'll need more evidence than just one diff about the purported sockmaster in this case.]
- At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
- In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 16:10, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- OK, given the relative obscurity of the article in question (Nichiren) and the history, I (weakly) find that the IP is connected – for the archive only, because the IP hasn't edited in some time. {{re|Hijiri88}} One thing – when you've spent a while being pestered by ducks, everything that you see looks like a duck, even if it really is an innocent rabbit in disguise. Sorry about any inconvenience from finding diffs; I hope it's understandable that we need to be thorough.
- Since the IP is inactive, there's nothing left to do. Closing. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 21:52, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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