Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Entertainment4Reality/Archive#10 July 2024

{{sock list|1=Newwikiexpress|tools_link=yes}}

E4R was blocked in mid august for WP:UPE. They've since made several unsuccessful appeals. Newwikiexpress was created on September 17th and has a note on their user page that they have an alternate account but have not said what account when asked. An IP editor added a note to E4R's talk page that Newwikiexpress (NWE) was an alternate account (a month after they were blocked). There's a reasonable amount of overlap between the two accounts [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Newwikiexpress&users=Entertainment4Reality&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki], but the [https://sigma.toolforge.org/timeline.py?page=Draft%3ACrime_Alert&users=Newwikiexpress&users=Entertainment4Reality&server=enwiki extensive editing] both accounts have on Draft:Crime Alert is highly unlikely to be unconnected accounts. The first edit NWE made to that draft [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Crime_Alert&diff=1110961270&oldid=1105264780] was to restore a massive cast list that had been removed after E4R was blocked. Ravensfire (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Looks like a duck. Given the UPE concern, please, look for sleepers too. MarioGom (talk) 11:19, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

:Heh, I think I should leave SPI alone for a bit - this is the third(?) time I've edit/block conflicted with someone this morning. :P I blocked Newwikiexpress before your endorse {{u|MarioGom}} as I felt that the behavioural evidence presented was strong enough on its own (large overlap across rather obscure subjects in 116 edits, the restoration of the draft content, and (least probative) the use of the advanced mobile editor). Good point re: sleepers! firefly ( t · c ) 11:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

• Sleepers is not an easy game here. Take your duck block and run with it. -- Amanda (she/her) 11:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
• Tagged the master, closing the case. Thank you Firefly and Amanda. MarioGom (talk) 11:59, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Jha09|2=Wikifire123|tools_link=yes}}

Significant overlap in focus, with Jha09 picking up where Entertainment4Reality had left off across a fair number of articles. Not sure if this is recent enough for a CU to find anything, but figured I'd list it in case they can. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 22:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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• I'd actually be shocked if Jha09 is a sock of E4R, they've been editing several months prior to E4R starting and have amassed a simply massive number of edits (over 9,000!!!). At times problematic, they have improved a fair amount. I wouldn't be shocked if they are a sock of someone (and have a few guesses), but not likely to be E4R. Their sheer number of edits will probably hit some level of overlap with any editor in the Indian film/television area. I would not be surprised if E4R is editing as another account, probably Wikifire123 would be my guess. Fair number of edits on Dangal 2, which was a common article for E4R to edit, adding the episode "list" to Nath – Zewar Ya Zanjeer with this edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nath_%E2%80%93_Zewar_Ya_Zanjeer&diff=1115985764&oldid=1115977784], as E4R and prior sock liked overly detailed plots [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nath_%E2%80%93_Zewar_Ya_Zanjeer&type=revision&diff=1111487346&oldid=1110528864] for example. Also added a cast member to a draft only substantially edited by E4R [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft%3ADwarkadheesh_Bhagwaan_Shree_Krishn_-_Sarvkala_Sampann&type=revision&diff=1120312403&oldid=1115121014]. There isn't a definitive edit where they restored substantial edits from E4R, although the episode list / plot is close and there is some overlap in articles. Ravensfire (talk) 00:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

• Wikifire123 is {{confirmed}} Jha09 is {{unrelated}} -- RoySmith (talk) 00:18, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Changhong1234|tools_link=yes}}

It's always suspicious to me when a new user begins editing almost immediately in draftspace. There is overlap between this user, the puppeteer, and two other socks, [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Changhong1234+&users=Entertainment4Reality&users=Wikifire123&users=Newwikiexpress&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki see this]. It was the new potential sock's edit on Nikki Aur Jadui Bubble which really made me suspicious. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 09:25, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

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• OK, this may need a better CU than me, or someone who knows the master better, but Chunghang is identical with User:Iamnew123, doing the same stuff, and I am going to block them both. I can't identify them with Entertainment, but I will put this SPI in the block log. Drmies (talk) 02:24, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
• Account is now blocked and trying to sort out exactly which sock drawer various Indian TV socks belong to is usually more trouble than it's worth. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=King1253|tools_link=yes}}

Targets the same topics as User:Ai. kre Leonidlednev (T, C, L) 18:36, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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:I am just an ordinary wikipedia editor as i am not an suspected wikipedia user as i am want to became as a wikipedia editor as i didn't do anything. I only created an article which is an television series as i find out the former user which was firstly created by this article had been already blocked by this website. What wrong i did? i only created a first article only as i didn't do anything wrong as i am not the sockpuppeter. King1253 (talk) 18:49, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

• Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=JudeinLenovo|tools_link=yes}}

Account created on February 3, 2023, a few days after SOCK King1253 was blocked. Went directly to the same target pages as you can see from the user interaction tools. CNMall41 (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

:Note that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jha09/Archive Jha09] was previously checked in this SOCK farm but wound up being its own farm. I have not checked any of those accounts with this user but will if a CU would like me to prior to determining if a CU is warranted. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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• User:Sohom Datta [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sohag_Chand&diff=prev&oldid=1217649718 directed me here concerning this Afd] but I am afraid I can't see the connection....-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

::I am not sure that AfD is in any way related to these accounts. Maybe they meant another SPI as this one is dealing with two editors who have not edited that page or AfD. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

:::Thank you very much for the clarification. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:57, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

• JudeinLenovo is {{possible}} to the only non-stale previous sock, but combined with behavioral overlap, I'm convinced. Blocking, closing. Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:14, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=GoldenHills|2=ElectroPrime|tools_link=yes}}

Created after prior sock was blocked. Early edits are to add excessive details to plot of Yeh Hai Chahatein which was also done by prior socks - see history of that article. Ravensfire (talk) 15:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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Adding user ElectroPrime who did a lot of the lifting on the draft prior to it being taken over by GoldenHills. Note the similar style username of two words, both starting in caps.--CNMall41 (talk) 23:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

• Both accounts are very {{likely}} to one another, and to the blocked account {{noping|JudeinLenovo}}. Also, {{confirmed}} to ElectroPrime, is {{noping|Electromax India}}. Blocking all, tagging, closing. Girth Summit _(blether) 07:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=121Fam|tools_link=yes}}

121Fam created on May 10, 2024, a few days after the most recent block of socks from this farm. Only 16 edits to a total of three pages that include Yeh Hai Chahatein which was heavily edited by sock GoldenHills, Mann Sundar which was edited by sock JudeinLenovo, Draft:Deewani which was edited by both JudeinLenovo and GoldenHills. CNMall41 (talk) 04:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Sorry, I got nothing. They are operating on one range that had been checked before, a while ago, for the same case, but I found no matches for this editor with anyone else. Drmies (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Andro789|2= Faze fire1|3=Bakelmuhammad0|tools_link=yes}}

Recreated Sun Neo which has been created several times by prior E4R socks. Ravensfire (talk) 13:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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Adding {{no ping|Faze fire1}}, created December 2022, made the same unsourced edit to Sun Neo [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sun_Neo&diff=1226623208&oldid=1226581799] as {{no ping|Andro789}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sun_Neo&diff=1226726492&oldid=1226726439], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sun_Neo&diff=1226579301&oldid=1226538751]. Wikishovel (talk) 13:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding {{no ping|Bakelmuhammad0}}, autocreated 22 May. Recreated unsourced B4U Plus (now at draft), and in the middle of their additions about B4U Plus to B4U (network), {{no ping|121Fam}} (see 17 May SPI above) added B4U Plus to the channel list [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B4U_%28network%29&diff=1226704755&oldid=1226402808]. Also worth noting that B4U Plus was created twice in 2017 by User:Rajesultanpur, blocked sockpuppet of User:Prashantpking. Wikishovel (talk) 11:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:For future reference, User:Bakelmuhammad0 has been repeatedly adding that B4U stands for "Bears 4th Universal" in B4U (network) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B4U_%28network%29&diff=1226936045&oldid=1226931751] and B4U (TV channel) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B4U_(TV_channel)&diff=prev&oldid=1226877516], along with several subsequent logged-out edits. Wikishovel (talk) 19:49, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• see also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bakelmuhammad0, which will likely need merging into here. Breadth and depth seems to justify CU. Requested. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 21:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

• All three of these accounts are {{unrelated}} to this case and to each other. I think people need to use a little more judgment when filing cases involving South Asian movies and TV. Imagine if you thought every newish account editing Breaking Bad or The Avengers was a sock. Spicy (talk) 18:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=2409:4071:0:0:0:0:0:0/33|2=49.43.40.0/22|tools_link=yes}}

I firmly beleive there's some fairly extensive WP:LOUTSOCK happening from E4R in the range above. Looking at several drafts submitted or heavily edited by the last sock, JudeInLenovo, there's frequent activity from either JIL, 2409:4071 or 49.43.40/22. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Janani_-_AI_Ki_Kahani&action=history] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Deewani&action=history] There's a clear smoking gun where a 2409:4071 edit created a previously deleted draft with a G5 tag for E4R sock.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Purni&oldid=1219825134] Most of the LOUT editing is from the IPV6 range and only recently the IPV4 showed activity. I'm asking for a range block at least on the IPV6, but wouldn't mind teh V4 as well to see if E4R can be slowed a bit. Thanks. Ravensfire (talk) 18:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC) Ravensfire (talk) 18:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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:I've been suspicious of this range for a while, doing work at files for upload. Look through the FFU archive for requests by an IPv6 to upload Dangal Play TV show title cards with images uploaded to mallucampaign.in, which seems to be their business site that they repurpose for allowing me to download the files to upload. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 02:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

• There's more than enough overlap between 2409:4071:0:0:0:0:0:0/33 and JudeInLenovo to be convincing. I was thinking of blocking the IP range for three months, but when I saw the amount of blocking already in its block log, I decided that wasn't enough, so I blocked it for a year. Unfortunately I don't have time at present to check the IPv4 range. JBW (talk) 21:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• IPv6 is blocked, but the IPv4 range seems to have legitimate edits and I can't establish that it is E4R editing from there. Closing case. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 20:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=121Fam|tools_link=yes}}

Fairly high overlap with previous sock JudeinLenovo [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=JudeinLenovo&users=121Fam&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki], but it's the focus on Deewani and especially Dhamaal (TV channel) which has mainly been edited by E4R socks in the past. Ravensfire (talk) 16:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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• {{Closing without action}} 121Fam was checked a month ago and didn't turn up anything. Behaviorally it's possible, but it could also be another person who just likes Hindi television shows. Not enough evidence to establish sockpuppetry. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 20:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Retro6788|tools_link=yes}}

User:121Fam blocked on October 28, 2024. User:Retro6788 created on November 7, 2024 editing same areas, including picking up on Draft:Safal Hogi Teri Aradhana which was started by 121Fam, Draft:Sun Neo also started by 121Fam, and pages edited by 121Fam such as Tose Naina Milaai Ke. With only 43 edits I would say this isn't a coincidence. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC) CNMall41 (talk) 19:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Confirmed. Izno (talk) 19:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=DewTown|tools_link=yes}}

Created after prior account blocked, continued editing on Draft:Safal Hogi Teri Aradhana which was edited by master and prior sock only. Ravensfire (talk) 07:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

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• This is incredibly {{likely}} based on technical evidence; the behaviour removes any possible room for doubt. I am reblocking the master as a CU block, in light of their confirmed block evasion through this new account, and {{noping|Retro6788}} from the previous report. Girth Summit _(blether) 10:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Jude2024|tools_link=yes}}

Newly created account with five edits, all of which are on the pages of those edited by this farm. Note that there was a recent block of editors working on these pages in addition to previous blocks from the SPI history. CNMall41 (talk) 17:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

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• {{possible}}. They share an IP range, but it's a very wide and busy one. Previous accounts were on mobile while this one is on desktop. {{behav}}. Spicy (talk) 20:43, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
• I rechecked to compare to a new sock, {{np|CanonPiston}}, and there is some additional data available that makes this {{Likely}}. Spicy (talk) 21:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Dipanshu Sarkar|2=Leo Francis 92|note2=Originally filed under|tools_link=yes}}

{{no ping|Dipanshu Sarkar}} created 16 July. Following September soft-delete of Enterr10 Television Network following AFD, {{no ping|Dipanshu Sarkar}} recreates it: compare references and anachronistic access dates. Similar topic focus to master and previous socks. Wikishovel (talk) 17:21, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Tiptoeing down the rabbit hole, there also seems to be a connection to master User:121Fam, created 5 June, for which the socks made similar edits to Dangal (TV channel) and Dangal 2. Advice is welcome. Wikishovel (talk) 17:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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• {{Inprogress}} - for use in CU training. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
• {{btc}} Data from Leo was stale, but data matched most recent creator of the article who was also blocked for sockpuppetry. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:48, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Falimyious|tools_link=yes}}

Similar conduct as the other socks in this farm who are likely UPE for Dangal TV. Editing redirect Gehna – Zewar Ya Zanjee created and editing by sock of this farm and then creating Draft:Gehna – Zewar Ya Zanjeer in a likely attempt to replace the redirect. Also updating Deewani which was created by a sock of this farm. Account created two days ago with 40+ edits. CNMall41 (talk) 02:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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• {{tallyho}} to master and previous socks. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:25, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=2409:408A:3E32:7C8F:0:0:76C9:8904|2=2409:408A:8C90:980A:0:0:1C08:BF0C|3=2409:408A:2DB7:DE19:0:0:7649:DC0E|tools_link=yes}}

Reporting for behavioral evidence evaluation. Looks like 121Fam is also engaging in WP:LOUTSOCKing and has been pretty active over the last few weeks. Note, there are several users who are also involved with recently created usernames and few edits but trying to compare to determine which ones are simply editing as fans or which ones are likely socks of this farm.

• IP -2409:408A:3E32:7C8F:0:0:76C9:8904 - Editing targets of 121Fam including Dangal (TV channel), Tulsi – Hamari Badi Sayani, and Mann Atisundar - These were created and/or heavily edited by at least two (sometimes more) socks of 121 Fam.
• IP - 2409:408A:8C90:980A:0:0:1C08:BF0C (already partially blocked) - editing Tulsi – Hamari Badi Sayani
• IP - 2409:408A:2DB7:DE19:0:0:7649:DC0E - All Dangle TV channel edits CNMall41 (talk) 00:59, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{ping|Bbb23}}, these are all from February 2025 unless I am not looking correctly. How far back are we able to go? Just asking so I don't waste time filing future reports. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:21, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

:*There is no set time, and opinions vary; personally if the edits are already more than three days old, I wouldn't bother filing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks. I kind of had a suspicion it would just be playing whack a mole anyway. Appreciate it. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

• IP edits are too old, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 01:10, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=DangalOfficial|tools_link=yes}}

User:DangalOfficial created on February 18, 2025 and editing same targets as 121Fam sock farm including Mann Sundar (target of numerous 121Fam socks), Ishq Jabariya, and Draft:Chhathi Maiyya Ki Bitiya. Username reported as some of the edits are related to Dangal TV where 121Fam sock farm targets regularly. CNMall41 (talk) 04:17, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

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• Already blocked as a spammer. {{tallyho}} from previous socks in this case. Don't see any others. Tagged, closing. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Marco22345|tools_link=yes}}

Last sock from this farm was blocked on February 22, 2025. Marco22345 created account on February 28, 2025. Note the farm is associated with Dangal TV where the majority of their edits are focused. Going to be connected to blocked sock DewTown from this farm.

• Their user page was created with "Hi, I am Marco 22345 and I am a Wikipedian editor and Article creator whom always used to create an article and edits them. This is similar to now blocked sock DewTown [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:DewTown&diff=1258376920&oldid=1257518681 user page] that was created with "Hi, I am DewTown and yourself new Wikipedia Editor and I can make many Wikipedia Articles and Edits.."
• First edit was the creation of Dangal TV program Pyaar Ki Raahein from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pyaar_Ki_Raahein&diff=1281016438&oldid=1278311847 a translated version].
• Next major edit was the creation of Dangal TV program Sajan Ji Ghar Aaye Family Kyun Sharmaye.
• Next creation was the Dangal TV program Prem Leela (TV series).
• Next major edits link both Marco22345 and DewTown. They are to the Dangal TV program Lekar Hum Deewana Dil (TV series). Page was created originally by an IP (also blocked), edited mainly by DewTown prior to their block, then editing picked up again by Marco22345 starting today. CNMall41 (talk) 02:29, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

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• {{unlikely}} - same part of the same country, but over 100km apart. PhilKnight (talk) 07:57, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
• Matches the signature of DangalOfficial and overlaps on at least one IP with at least one prior sock. Blocking. Izno (talk) 20:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

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